Richard Smedley | 4 Oct 17:28 2007

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thePILOTS is due to be launched in the new year and we are looking for 
people to collaborate in the development of the qualification.  The 
qualification will be operating system independent, but the materials 
will be developed for GNU/Linux.

The qualification will be certified by The Learning Machine, a QCA 
approved awarding body, and development is being led by M6-IT CIC.  It 
will be referenced to the National Occupational Standards for ICT 
practitioners.

The target audience will be technicians working in small organisations 
and 16+ education.

The project is being hosted at http://gna.org/
The website is at http://www.thepilots.org/
The developers discussion can be subscribed to at 
https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/thepilots-dev/

Please join us and help us to create a qualification that will be truly 
useful.

thanks, with apologies for the inevitable cross-postings,

Richard Rothwell

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Richard Smedley | 12 Oct 15:18 2007

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Does anybody know more about the Mcr invitation to
MS for the BSF provision?

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Noah Slater | 12 Oct 15:35 2007

Re: Mcr MS IT schools provision -- [Fwd: Re: [OSA-Members] ZDnet frontpage]

On 12/10/2007, Richard Smedley <rs@...> wrote:
> Does anybody know more about the Mcr invitation to
> MS for the BSF provision?

No, but this is a travesty.

What action can be taken to prevent this from happening?

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Finn Lewis | 12 Oct 15:56 2007

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I agree. That's really bad.
What can we do?
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Noah Slater wrote:
On 12/10/2007, Richard Smedley <rs-3SY8GZ/QvlfYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Does anybody know more about the Mcr invitation to MS for the BSF provision?
No, but this is a travesty. What action can be taken to prevent this from happening?
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Iain Roberts | 12 Oct 19:56 2007
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Sadly this isn't a great shock:
http://tinyurl.com/yejqcw
http://tinyurl.com/2ooyeg

Stockport, on the other hand, has rolled out a borough-wide FOSS schools system based on Plone, I think (but
otherwise is hardly a Mecca for Free Software so don't get too excited).

If you are a resident in Manchester you could:
- Contact your local councillor via http://www.writetothem.com (itself an excellent example of how Free
Software can deliver excellent IT whilst slashing the costs - the PM's petition site is another example by
the same people).

- Contact your local MP, also via http://www.writetothem.com

- Contact your local MEP.

- Ask why Manchester is doing cozy deals with Microsoft at the same time as the EC and the European courts have
found them guilty of illegal monopolistic practices.

- Contact the local political parties in your area (Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, Green) and find out what their
view are (if any - it's not exactly a mainstream political issue so most people simply won't have thought
about it or know about it).

- Come along to the Open Schools Alliance conference on Free and Open Source Software in Liverpool next
Friday and invite the people you contact to come along too.

Iain.

----- "Finn Lewis" <finn@...> wrote:
I agree. That's really bad.
What can we do?

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Noah Slater | 12 Oct 20:18 2007

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> - Contact your local councillor
> - Contact your local MP

Perhaps we could all contact the counillor for our area (me excluded
as I'm not a resident) and someone should formally contact
Manchester's MP as a representative of our organisation.

I would like to get an official response to our questions.

Volounteers?

> - Come along to the Open Schools Alliance conference on Free and Open Source Software in Liverpool next
Friday and invite the people you contact to come along too.

Interesting suggestion. I wonder how many people here would be
prepared to do that.

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Iain Roberts | 12 Oct 20:38 2007
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----- "Noah Slater" <nslater@...> wrote:

> > - Come along to the Open Schools Alliance conference on Free and
> Open Source Software in Liverpool next Friday and invite the people
> you contact to come along too.
> 
> Interesting suggestion. I wonder how many people here would be
> prepared to do that.
> 

Here's the full info.  If anyone's around South Manchester, would like to go, but doesn't have transport, I
may be able to offer a lift.

Subject: Event Invitation: keynote - Martin Dougiamas, Moodle CEO -  
Success in Education - Liverpool 19th Oct - Limited No of Places

Open Schools Alliance invites you to Success in Education Conference:  
Free and Open Source Software on Friday 19th October 2007.

Conference website: http://openschoolsalliance.org/education-event/

The Success in Education Conference provides:
*   A showcase for the successful deployments of free & OSS in  
Education worldwide
*   Direct dialogues with leading experts from the ICT and Education  
arenas
*   Demonstrations of leading software solutions
*   First hand accounts of Open Source Software (OSS) installations

Reasons to attend:
*   Learn about real-life implementations using OSS in Education
*   Understand the benefits and problems
*   Speak to people who claim to have saved millions by switching to OSS
*   See how teachers and students are using OSS to become creators of  
both applications and content
*   Try out different products and see live demonstrations

Who should attend? People in the education sector including:
*   Head Teachers, ICT Co-ordinators, Special Schools, Network Managers
*   School Governors, Local Authorities, Politicians
*   Primary Schools, High Schools, Colleges

Speakers include:
     Martin Dougiamas, Moodle CEO
     More: http://openschoolsalliance.org/education-event/itinerary

Free registration:
     Website: http://openschoolsalliance.org/education-event/
registration
     Email: event@...
     Cost: event is free
     SPACES LIMITED: early registration recommended

Event details:
     Date:  Friday 19th October 2007
     Time:   8:30am – 3:00pm
     Location: http://openschoolsalliance.org/education-event/location 

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Paul Waring | 12 Oct 21:08 2007
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Noah Slater wrote:
> Perhaps we could all contact the counillor for our area (me excluded
> as I'm not a resident) and someone should formally contact
> Manchester's MP as a representative of our organisation.

Manchester has lots of MPs (depending on how you define 'Manchester', 
but I can name five or six off the top of my head), and most will want 
you to be a constituent in their area in order to reply to 
letters/emails/faxes.

I don't think any of the major parties have a particular policy on open 
source (Tories might like it because it offers a cut to budgets though) 
and I bet they all use Windows in their HQs, but as it's not a big 
manifesto issue each MP can probably make up their own mind about their 
stance without feeling party pressure, so it may be easier to convince 
them that open source is a good way forward.

Paul
Iain Roberts | 12 Oct 22:01 2007
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As far as policy goes, I don't think any of the main parties (except for the Greens, if you count them as a main
party) have a specific policy on FLOSS.

However,
- For the Tories, George Osborne (Shadow Chancellor and MP for Tatton) has an interest in Open Source, has
contacts in the FLOSS community and has made some positive noises:
http://www.conservatives.com/tile.do?def=news.story.page&obj_id=135394
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6430069.stm

- The Lib Dems again have no official policy, but senior Lib Dems have met with FLOSS advocates and Lib Dem
Southport MP John Pugh has been active in promoting FLOSS:
http://www.businessweek.com/globalbiz/content/oct2007/gb20071011_019649.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_global+business

- Labour, at least at a senior party level, have shown no interest in FLOSS than I've been able to find, though
I'd love to track down someone who was interested.  The Government have made some very vague noises and
policy statements about FLOSS over the last few years but they amount to very little.
e.g. http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/documents/oss_policy_version2.pdf sounds good but has proven to
mean little.

Dr. Brian Iddon is a Bolton Labour MP who's shown some sympathy towards FLOSS.

Last year we wrote an Early Day Motion (a petition only MPs can sign) which was submitted by John Pugh MP and
signed by 130 MPs.  The petition read 

"That this House congratulates the Open University and other schools, colleges and universities for
utilising free and open source software to deliver cost-effective educational benefit not just for
their own institutions but also the wider community; and expresses concern that Becta and the Department
for Education and Skills, through the use of outdated purchasing frameworks, are effectively denying
schools the option of benefiting from both free and open source software and the value and experience
small and medium ICT companies could bring to the schools market."

It might be worth seeing if your MP was one of the signatories:
http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=31752

Iain

----- "Paul Waring" <paul@...> wrote:
> Noah Slater wrote:
> > Perhaps we could all contact the counillor for our area (me
> excluded
> > as I'm not a resident) and someone should formally contact
> > Manchester's MP as a representative of our organisation.
> 
> Manchester has lots of MPs (depending on how you define 'Manchester',
> 
> but I can name five or six off the top of my head), and most will want
> 
> you to be a constituent in their area in order to reply to 
> letters/emails/faxes.
> 
> I don't think any of the major parties have a particular policy on
> open 
> source (Tories might like it because it offers a cut to budgets
> though) 
> and I bet they all use Windows in their HQs, but as it's not a big 
> manifesto issue each MP can probably make up their own mind about
> their 
> stance without feeling party pressure, so it may be easier to convince
> 
> them that open source is a good way forward.
> 
> Paul
> 
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Simon Ward | 12 Oct 23:27 2007
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On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 09:01:16PM +0100, Iain Roberts wrote:

> Last year we wrote an Early Day Motion (a petition only MPs can sign) which was submitted by John Pugh MP and
signed by 130 MPs.  The petition read 
> 
> "That this House congratulates the Open University and other schools, colleges and universities for
utilising free and open source software to deliver cost-effective educational benefit not just for
their own institutions but also the wider community; and expresses concern that Becta and the Department
for Education and Skills, through the use of outdated purchasing frameworks, are effectively denying
schools the option of benefiting from both free and open source software and the value and experience
small and medium ICT companies could bring to the schools market."
> 
> It might be worth seeing if your MP was one of the signatories:
> http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=31752

I contacted my MP, Gerald Kaufmann, about EDM179 and he subsequently
signed it.  It’s worth contacting him again.

I don’t know enough about the current provisioning issue to be able to
even comment on it, let alone formulate a letter.  Can someone give some
links?

Simon
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