Re: [ox-en] extrinsic motivation = coercion
Stefan Meretz <stefan@...
2009-05-01 09:25:49 GMT
On 2009-04-30 13:06, Diego Saravia wrote:
> > > > Yes, that is goal: replacement of extrinsic with intrinsic
> > > > motivation
> > >
> > > I think this idea, that people do not need "to work"* for live is
> > > unrelated to money.
> > The fact, that people are coerced to work, is directly related to
> > money today, because primitive subsistance is no longer possible
> > any more. You only can make a living via money.
> okey, now coercion is exercised via money
> but between primitivism and money and beyond you have huge horizonts
> and money is not the reasson for coercion, is only a mechanism
> the logic of coercion is far more profound than money
True, but due to simplification I use "money" as a symbol. Behind money
there is exchange _value_, which does only exist, because we do not
produce societally, but isolated. Isolated producers have to exchange
their products, societal producers do not.
If exchange is necessary due to isolated production, then value is the
objective measure for the exchange relation, and money is a special
means to represent this value.
Thus talking about value in the sense of objective value is more correct
then talking about money. But value, on the other hand, is more