Re: [ox-en] The Ideology of Free Culture and the Grammar of Sabotage
Dmytri Kleiner <dk@...
2008-02-01 15:01:56 GMT
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 01:45:49 -0800 (PST), Michael Bauwens
> and Dmytri, there is really no need to psychologize arguments, like
> defensive", I can't speak for Graham, but it does certainly not
> to my feeling and intention.
Sorry, but when you renounced Matteo's endorsement of Copyfarleft because
it was "unproven," that struck me as defensive. Why should an essayist
limit themselves to the "proven"? Matteo is writing theoretical articles,
not dictating State policy.
It implies that other currents in peer production discussions are based
on things that are "proven," i.e. your contentions that a "immaterial,
non-reciprocal" mode of production exists because free software exists,
and I feel I have completely refuted these arguments, thus your reaction
to Matteo's endorsements of these and similar ideas as defensive, gripping
to interpretations that are important to you, that these arguments
It seems to me like you do understand that an "immaterial,
non-reciprocal" mode of production has not, does not, and can not
exist and are having trouble synthesizing this knowledge with your
world view, thus you are inclined to react defensively to this loss,
as you go through the stages of grieving for this idea that was obviously
important to you.
Sorry about the psychologizing, I fully understand I could be comepletely