Stefan Meretz | 2 Feb 15:31 2007

[ox-en] Fwd: [pox] MIKATOPIA

This should go here...

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Subject: [pox] MIKATOPIA
Date: 2007-02-01 21:47
From: mika <mikatopia@...>
To: Oekonux Projekt <projekt@...>

I hope I am posing in the right place - apologies if I have this wrong.
Best regards Mika.

A collaborative new world simulation “Third Life”

Idea Summary To create a virtual world whose economy is based solely on
human need, and not on profit. The Earth has more than enough resources
to feed the world.

There are various degrees of belief and convictions in another possible
form of world order, and you don't have to be an anarchist, Marxist,
green or an anti-globalisation activist to observe the following: the
world we live in yields over-production on the one hand, with one third
of the world threatened by obesity, whilst another two thirds endures
wars and starvation.

The last nail in our planetary coffin will be hammered in by a system
which puts profit above long term survival of the earth’s ecosystem.

Necessity & Possibility Not all would agree on the possibility of
another economic system but if there is one thing a growing number of
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David Collins | 3 Feb 00:10 2007

Re: [ox-en] A 'Sharing' project

Hi,

On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 08:41:46AM +0100, Stefan Merten wrote:
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> Last month (57 days ago) David Collins wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2006 at 08:58:31AM +0200, Stefan Merten wrote:
> >> I see such attempts as a possible building block for a GPL society.
> >> The main advantage IMHO is that they overcome exchange.
> > 
> > Well, I would be very interested in your thoughts on an idea I have to
> > extend the scope of the project beyond shareable goods - to incorporate
> > services, and maybe non-shareable goods as well. I was thinking of then
> > re-defining the project as a 'Free Co-operative' - or 'Free Co-op'.
>                                         ^^^^^^^^^
> 
> What strikes me if you put it this way is the emphasis on "operative"
> :-) . That would be indeed a useful goal to strive for.

Well, my conviction has been: if the idea has merit, then it will be recognized
in time - so I have made only gentle attempts to 'advertise' it. 

> > To me, the word 'Free' - in this context - would symbolize a number of
> > things:
> > (i) the project would aim to provide people with the scope for making
> > economic decisions without the use of money
>
> But wouldn't the term "moneyless" match better then? ...

Maybe it would. I actually used that term when I was beginning to work
on the project - but decided, after a while, to remove it temporarily - as
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Franz Nahrada | 10 Feb 14:53 2007
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[ox-en] Burda goes open source fashion - do they?

Zwei junge Designerinnen von Burda, Nora Abousteit und Benedikta Kara,
haben ihren Chef von einer Open Source Politik überzeugt.
Two young fashion designers of Burda have convinced their boss to support
Open Source fashion and introduce Open Source Patterns. They coexist with
proprietary patterns in an unclear way....

http://www.burdastyle.com/

I wonder if anybody can do serious research on the implications of this
and the dynamics! I did not find any protection and aggregation mechanism
like GPL for "open source sewing patterns" so far.

Franz

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http://www.burdastyle.com/content/terms_of_use

By viewing the Site or communications transmitted through the Site, you
may be exposed to third party content that is false, offensive or
otherwise objectionable to you or others, and you agree that under no
circumstances shall Burda be liable in any way, under any theory, for any
third party content.

1.SPECIFIC CONTENT. Some content, such as open source sewing patterns, may
be made available for use without restrictions. Any such content will be
identified on the Site as a "open source pattern". You acknowledge and
agree that, except for items specifically designated as "open source
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Kasper Souren | 10 Feb 15:15 2007
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[ox-en] CouchSurfing, and the Center for Adventure Economics

I'm excited to see that Oekonux is still active. At OX-3 I spoke about
Wikiresearch
(calling myself Gunter van Aken). Since then I dropped out of my PhD, worked 4,5
months for Geekcorps in Mali, hitchhiked through Europe and South America,
worked for an NGO in Lima, Peru and...

Since August last year I have spent a lot of time on CouchSurfing, a hospitality
exchange network. Right after the Wikimania in August 2006 I joined
the CS Collective
in Montreal and set up a wiki. Since then I've also started improving
the CS website.
I am pushing for a release of the software under a free license. We
just started a GPL
(side) project to make CouchSurfing accessible trough phones:
http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/en/Phone_Network
And we're about to start a ride share system:
http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/en/Rideshares

From http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/en/Center_for_Adventure_Economics
We coin the term adventure economy to refer to a gift economy that is
pay-forward, in-person, global and among strangers. In any economy,
there are challenges in allocating resources effectively and avoiding
abuse, but these are of special concern in non-market economies among
strangers, where we don't have the information mechanisms of the price
system ([1], [2]) nor of wikipedia:social relations, and we are also
missing the risk-reduction mechanisms of contracts. In this group we
develop the allocation and risk-reduction mechanisms for CouchSurfing,
an adventure economy.

Also check out:
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Franz Nahrada | 10 Feb 19:56 2007
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Re: [ox-en] CouchSurfing, and the Center for Adventure Economics


Hi Kasper,

I like that way you capitalize on Wikipedia and run a POV wiki at the same
time. Great role model!

Besides Oekonux (what we did in Vienna -
http://de.wiki.oekonux.org/%C3%9Cbersicht_freier_Projekte-which should
migrate into http://de.wiki.oekonux.org/FreieModi]  and P2P Foundation
this is the third attempt that I see to grab a birds-eye-view on the Free
Modes.

Wonder how this could be aggregated. I work in german sometimes on the
Oekonux Wiki to keep this intention of "documenting free modes"  alive,
but I am feeling overwhelmed by the shere extent of the task (and other
things I do). And the more there is, the more you have to do research.
(see previous posting about fashion). I am not a friend of delicio.us and
tag aggregation, I love the wiki way. Hope there will be a convergence and
a useful encyclopedia. Yes, we could link things much better with
consistent pointers at Wikipedia (and connecting it with our own critical
reasearch).

Maybe you lead the way?

all the best

Franz Nahrada

_________________________________
Web-Site: http://www.oekonux.org/
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Michael Bauwens | 11 Feb 12:51 2007
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Re: [ox-en] CouchSurfing, and the Center for Adventure Economics


Kasper,

I'm extremely impressed by your community's work, I
think that extended to the concept of 'free life' and
with the adventure economics and metrics, it is one of
the missing pieces that we needed for a peer to peer
economy beyond the market.

I actually spend almost 3 weeks in November cataloging
and annotating the free project at the Oekonux site,
then our server crashed, and all that work was lost. 
I haven't had the courage nor the time to start that
process again, but still feel that because the
p2pfoundation is already so comprehensive, an index of
free projects would be a natural fit. If there would
be any volunteers eventually, that would be really
great.

Michel

--- Kasper Souren <kasper.souren@...> wrote:

> I'm excited to see that Oekonux is still active. At
> OX-3 I spoke about
> Wikiresearch
> (calling myself Gunter van Aken). Since then I
> dropped out of my PhD, worked 4,5
> months for Geekcorps in Mali, hitchhiked through
> Europe and South America,
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Franz Nahrada | 11 Feb 13:35 2007
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Re: [ox-en] CouchSurfing, and the Center for Adventure Economics

Michael Bauwens <michelsub2003@...> writes:

regarding post
http://www.oekonux.org/list-en/archive/msg03701.html

and

http://www.oekonux.org/list-en/archive/msg03702.html
>
>Kasper,
>
>I'm extremely impressed by your community's work, I
>think that extended to the concept of 'free life' and
>with the adventure economics and metrics, it is one of
>the missing pieces that we needed for a peer to peer
>economy beyond the market.
>
>I actually spend almost 3 weeks in November cataloging
>and annotating the free project at the Oekonux site,
>then our server crashed, and all that work was lost. 
>I haven't had the courage nor the time to start that
>process again, but still feel that because the
>p2pfoundation is already so comprehensive, an index of
>free projects would be a natural fit. If there would
>be any volunteers eventually, that would be really
>great.
>
>Michel

wonderful!
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magius | 11 Feb 18:14 2007
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Re: [ox-en] CouchSurfing, and the Center for Adventure Economics

2007/2/11, Michael Bauwens <michelsub2003@...>:

> I'm extremely impressed by your community's work, I
> think that extended to the concept of 'free life'

Here's an interesting interpretation about hospitality exchange systems...

Emotional Tourism
From HospitalityGuide.net

An interpretive study of online hospitality exchange systems as a new
form of tourism

By Paula Bialski
June, 2006

The way people move, the way we shift space, the way we push and
explore the boundaries between "us," the tourists and "them," the
native citizens, has become a fascinating and quickly changing
phenomenon. Take the example of Grzesiek, a Pole living in Utrecht,
Holland, traveling to Geneva, Switzerland. Rejecting the classic route
of hotel or hostel accommodation, Grzegorz joined the rapidly-growing
phenomenon of what is known as "hospitality service" and "slept" on
Frank's, the Genevan's, couch. I put "slept" in quotation marks
because instead of sleeping, Grzegorz spent the entire night listening
to Frank's life story. Grzegorz didn't experience a strictly material,
sensory view of Geneva. His experience was not limited to the sights
of a museum, or the smells and tastes of a Swiss restaurant. In
staying at his host, Frank's, apartment, Grzegorz became a new form of
tourist, where emotion and closeness to another human being was
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Michael Bauwens | 12 Feb 04:36 2007
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Re: [ox-en] CouchSurfing, and the Center for Adventure Economics


--- Franz Nahrada <f.nahrada@...> wrote:

\ 
> I think we need to find out about the "technology of
> aggregation".
> 
> Many Oekonuxers have left because blogging seemed
> more efficient as
> technology of aggregation and editing content in a
> wiki is really painful.
> 
> So my question is: can we combine both?

hmm ... why is editing content so painful. Why are
millions of people doing it and why do I find it so
easy?

but of course, it's not a panacea, and tagging is
useful as well. There are many private groupware
solutions out there, but what we need I think is just
a clever combination of various existing modules.

Where can we see this story tagging in action?

> 
> Andrius Kulikauskas with his incredible energy is
> currently trying to
> build new types of content aggregaors, by collecting
> and tagging
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Dante-Gabryell Monson | 11 Feb 03:58 2007
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Re: [ox-en] CouchSurfing, and the Center for Adventure Economics

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Hi Franz ( cc: mailing list )

Sounds Great

I d also like to emphasize , as mentionned at the end of Kasper's mail ,
this collective we are holding in Germany during the whole month of July (
who is interested in participating? / passing by for a day or two? ) :

 http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/en/Detmold_Collective

, July 2007, close to Bielefeld

which could also be an opportunity to further discuss trust networks such as
couchsurfing
and the way we can further develop and integrate tools that are already
being worked on but also new ideas , facilitating gift
economics<http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/en/Center_for_Adventure_Economics>,
and I hope also visualization of knowledge "objects" (? ) - also see
ReferenceMaps <http://oikoumene.coforum.net/wikka.php?wakka=ReferenceMaps>and
Visualization
of Networks <http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/en/Visualization_of_Networks> ,
knowledge sharing and building / shared constructivist learning ,
lifestyles<http://wiki.couchsurfing.com/en/Moving_from_free_software_to_free_life>,
etc

I also recommend the following gatherings:

in a few days in Nottingham , UK (organized by friends) :

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Gmane