Stefan Merten | 1 Jul 07:57 2005
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Re: [ox-en] Re: do you know this text?


Hi!

Last month (38 days ago) gediminas urbonas wrote:
> YES: they were at RAM6,
> friends of George Dafermos.
> funny guys, around their 50'ties,

Indeed there is something like a extended Oekonux community were all
these people at least meet each other - if not get to know each other
for the first time. Our conferences fuel this :-) .

> they were at RAM6 for few evenings only
> as they had delegation from...India visiting them.
> 
> Quite mysterious this "Minciu Sodas" (Garden of Thoughts)

I met Andrius during the 3rd Oekonux conference in Vienna and frankly
I had a rather strange impression of this guy...

						Mit Freien Grüßen

						Stefan

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Franz Nahrada | 1 Jul 22:46 2005
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Re: [ox-en] Re: do you know this text?

ilist-en@... on Freitag, 1. Juli 2005 at 07:57 Uhr +0100 wrote:
 gediminas urbonas quoted by Stefan Merten:
>> Quite mysterious this "Minciu Sodas" (Garden of Thoughts)
 Stefan Merten::
>
>I met Andrius during the 3rd Oekonux conference in Vienna and frankly
>I had a rather strange impression of this guy...

dont worry I am going to see him tomorrow in Vilnius and we are working
together well

have an eye here:

http://www.openleader.com/

I have written the intro of the whole thing so I might be able to solve
some of the mysteries ;-)

and here

http://www.globalvillages.info/

Andrius was extremely helpful in unfolding very effective online community
work.

I benefit a lot from this and so might the New Work movement;-)

(only my work at Oekonux doesn't benefit that much from it... :-( )

Franz
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Stefan Merten | 9 Jul 15:22 2005
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Wolfgang Polatzek * Von der lokalen zur transformativen Ökonomie (was: [ox-en] Conference documentation / Konferenzdokumentation)


Von der lokalen zur transformativen Ökonomie
============================================

Wolfgang Polatzek [renate.polatzek at t-online.de]

Grundthese: Trotz zunehmender ökonomischer Krise des kapitalistischen
Wirtschaftssystems besteht die Chance zur Verwirklichung einer
eigenständigen Ökonomie, die nicht den Prinzipien des Weltmarktes
unterworfen ist.

Einleitung
==========

Nach dem Ende des Realsozialismus hatte es eine Phase der Resignation
bezüglich der Chancen einer Veränderung bzw. der Überwindung der
kapitalistischen Weltwirtschaft geben. Die Resignation vieler
Altlinken ist in einen Zynismus umgekippt oder aus den Altlinken
werden neue Rechte wie Horst Mahler. Die kapitalistische Weltordnung
hat in ihrer Auswirkungen sowohl den lange friedlich schlummernden
deutschen Mittelstand wie auch die Einwohner ostsibirischer Siedlungen
erreicht. Das kapitalistische Wirtschaftssystem mit seinen
Marktgesetze ist der neue Gott, der entweder hymnisch gepriesen,
teilweise verflucht wird oder meist resignierend zur Kenntnis genommen
wird.

Noch ist der Widerstand in Deutschland gegen die herrschende
Wirtschaftsordnung zaghaft. Seit Attac auch in Deutschland arbeitet,
entsteht langsam eine neue ökonomische Bewegung. Diese Bewegung ist
sehr uneinheitlich und deshalb schwer zu überschauen. Es gibt bisher
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Stefan Merten | 9 Jul 16:31 2005
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Aputsiaq Janussen * Adding Rationality to Himanen`s Hacker Ethic (was: Re: [ox-en] Conference documentation / Konferenzdokumentation)


Adding Rationality to Himanen`s Hacker Ethic
============================================

Aputsiaq Janussen [aputtu at mail.dk]

THE HACKER ETHIC
================

Ethic is about right and wrong, good and bad; it has to do with
character, it has to do with codes and principles for behaviour. The
hacker ethic, then, is about the hacker’s conceptions of right and
wrong, about ethical hacker’s character-traits, their codes and
principles of behaviour. In order to present any account of the hacker
ethic, we need to know what a hacker is.

THREE STEPS TO BE TAKEN
=======================

First step: what is a hacker?

Second step: how, when and why did the hacker ethic appear?

Third step: what could be at stake when we talk about the hacker
ethic?

FIRST STEP: What is a hacker?
=============================

The today’s hacker culture has its roots in Massachusetts Institute of
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magius | 9 Jul 19:24 2005

Re: Wolfgang Polatzek * Von der lokalen zur transformativen Ökonomie (was: [ox-en] Conference documentation / Konferenzdokumentation)

Could you write a brief abstract in english?

Stefan Merten <smerten@...> ha scritto:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> 
> Von der lokalen zur transformativen Ökonomie
> ============================================
> 
> Wolfgang Polatzek [renate.polatzek at t-online.de]
> 
> Grundthese: Trotz zunehmender ökonomischer Krise des kapitalistischen
> Wirtschaftssystems besteht die Chance zur Verwirklichung einer
> eigenständigen Ökonomie, die nicht den Prinzipien des Weltmarktes
> unterworfen ist.
> 

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Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/
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Casimir Purzelbaum | 9 Jul 23:16 2005
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[ox-en] Re: Wolfgang Polatzek * Von der lokalen zur transformativen ?konomie (was: [ox-en] Conference documentation / Konferenzdokumentation)

* Ref.: »Re: Wolfgang Polatzek * Von der lokalen zur transformativen ???konomie (was: [ox-en]
Conference documentation / Konferenzdokumentation)«
*        magius 	(2005-07-09  17:24)

> Could you write a brief abstract in english?

I'll give it a try ;-)

> Stefan Merten <smerten@...> ha scritto:

> > Von der lokalen zur transformativen Ökonomie
> > ============================================
> > 
> > Wolfgang Polatzek [renate.polatzek at t-online.de]
> > 
> > Grundthese: Trotz zunehmender ökonomischer Krise des kapitalistischen
> > Wirtschaftssystems besteht die Chance zur Verwirklichung einer
> > eigenständigen Ökonomie, die nicht den Prinzipien des Weltmarktes
> > unterworfen ist.

=== From the local economy towards a transformative economy ===

Main Idea: In spite of the aggravating economic crisis of the
capitalist economic system, there is a chance to realize an
autonomous economy, that is not dominated by the principles of
the world market.

--------

p.s. I have just tried to put the above words into English, I do
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Stefan Merten | 12 Jul 18:19 2005
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[ox-en] Re: Wolfgang Polatzek * Von der lokalen zur transformativen Ökonomie


Hi!

I'll give some criticism to this concept and will translate the
respective paragraphs.

3 days ago Stefan Merten wrote:
> Definition der transformativen Ökonomie
> =======================================
[...]
> Konkret bedeutetet das: Die transformative Ökonomie soll aus kleinen,
> selbstverwalteten, lokalen Wirtschaftsgemeinschaften bestehen. Diese
> lokale Wirtschaft sollte nach dem Prinzip der Selbstverwaltung
> organisiert sein. Die Zielsetzung ist dabei möglichst viele Produkte
> und Dienstleistungen innerhalb der Gemeinschaft zu produzieren. Je
> leistungsfähiger die lokale Ökonomie ist um so unabhängiger wird sie
> von der "normalen" Ökonomie. Diese Wirtschaftsgemeinschaften sind
> "Inseln" einer anderen Ökonomie inmitten in einer kapitalistischen
> Wirtschaftsordnung.

[
Definition of the transformative economy

[...]

In practice this means: The transformative economy shall consist of
small, self-managed, local economic communities. This local community
shall be organized by the principle of self-managment. The goal is to
produce as much as possible products inside the community. The more
capable the local economy is the more autonomous it is from the
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magius | 14 Jul 00:31 2005
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[ox-en] Re: Re: Wolfgang Polatzek * Von der lokalen zur transformativen Ökonomie*

Stefan Merten <smerten@...> wrote:

> I'll give some criticism to this concept and will translate the
> respective paragraphs.
> 
> > Definition der transformativen Ökonomie
> > 

Hi Stefan,

 I agree with you on several points of your criticism  
about "local" economies, but I think that an alternative economy
can be created, starting from a local level but with the goal 
to extend it on a global one. Starting locally is a possible way, 
but not necessarily the unique: in my vision, it's "simply" a 
tactical problem! As you said, thinking to another economy 
like an island - an autistic community more or less 
self-sufficient - is an error. 

The question is: can we think of a model based on some other
principles we know can work in our complex and advanced society?

Let's try brainstorming!

* We know from studies and data that the limit of our economies
  it's not scarcity of productive capacity or technology, neiter
  (in most cases) scarcity of raw or recycled material; the main
  limit is scarcity of money to pay people to make things and to
  give services.

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Stefan Meretz | 18 Jul 00:08 2005

[ox-en] What the hack - conference

Taken from: http://whatthehack.org/

What The Hack

What The Hack is an outdoor hacker conference/event taking place on a 
large event-campground in the south of The Netherlands from 28 until 
31 July 2005.

Events like What The Hack take place every four years, and originate 
from a group of people that was originally centered around a small 
hacker magazine called Hack-Tic. The magazine's last issue was 
published in 1993, but for reasons unknown the events have so far 
refused to die. 1989 Featured the Galactic Hacker Party, then in 1993 
we saw Hacking at the End of the Universe, followed in 1997 by 
Hacking In Progress, and in 2001 there was Hackers At Large.
What?

Expect people from every nook and cranny of the hacker universe: those 
deeply into developing Open Source software, civil liberties and 
privacy activists, experts in every field of computer networking and 
security as well as many others showing their projects and talking 
about what they do. Expect very large tents where lectures and 
presentations are held as well as multiple bars and other cozy spaces 
to hang out. Expect quality wired, wireless and interpersonal 
networking. Expect seeing some amazing presentations as well as 
stimulating conversations with some great folks.
For whom?

The event is not just for those who already define themselves as 
hackers, although they will almost certainly have an excellent time. 
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Thomas Kalka | 21 Jul 10:54 2005
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[ox-en] Voting Methods in Open Source Projects

Inspired by http://vote.sourceforge.net/  I wonder, wether someone did a 
survey or does research
about voting methods used  in open source projects.

-- Thomas Kalka
http://www.coforum.de/?ThomasKalka

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Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/
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Gmane