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David Thorstad | 1 Dec 01:35

Don't Ask, Just Tell

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The patriotic odor of this Human Rights Campaign bit of warmongering may 
make you throw up, and the timing is perfect as Obama gets ready to 
escalate his war in Afghanistan. Neither that war nor the one in Iraq is 
mentioned in this gay militaristic pitch under cover of "democratic 
rights." After Don't Ask, Don't Tell is repealed (as it inevitably will 
be), will leftist backers of repeal switch into opposing imperialist 
war? Radicals, whether gay or straight, ought to encourage 
nonparticipation in imperialist war crimes.
David
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Dear Kenneth,

**Help me make this the last anniversary of "Don't Ask,***
**Don't Tell."***

<http://www.hrcactioncenter.org/site/R?i=28Z5f7O6eS5qOUqwQX2rfA..>

**Tell Congress to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" NOW.** 
<http://www.hrcactioncenter.org/site/R?i=OWSovlxpEnuPpo8UiPJNLg..>

My name is Jarrod. I'm writing to you today – 16 years to the day after 
"Don't Ask, Don't Tell" was signed into law – because I've lived and 
breathed this policy.

**As an army linguist, I watched as seven of the eight gay and lesbian
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Jeffrey Thomas Piercy | 1 Dec 03:32

Re: Don't Ask, Just Tell

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David Thorstad wrote:
> After Don't Ask, Don't Tell is repealed (as it inevitably will
> be)

That Obama hasn't ended Don't Ask, Don't Tell is rather perplexing. My
half-baked theory is that he's saving it for the next time he needs a
distraction from more substantial going-ons.

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Michael Smith | 1 Dec 03:47

Re: Don't Ask, Just Tell

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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:32:28 -0800
Jeffrey Thomas Piercy <mqduck <at> mqduck.net> wrote:

> That Obama hasn't ended Don't Ask, Don't Tell is rather perplexing.  

Really? Ending it would be all cost for him, and no benefit. He and his 
cronies are well aware the the sort of liberals who would like to see 
DADT ended will dutifully troop out next time around and vote for him, 
no matter *what* he does or doesn't do in his first four years. 

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Mark Lause | 1 Dec 03:59
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Re: Don't Ask, Just Tell

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It's a question of positioning such a reform as a pro-military, patriotic
innovation.  If he's studied his Lincoln as much as he supposedly has, he'll
be waiting for a grand victory--or something that can pass for that--like
Antietam.

Given what he's got to work with, that'd be a very, very long wiat,
though...

ML
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Michael Smith | 1 Dec 04:19

Re: Don't Ask, Just Tell

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On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:59:39 -0500
Mark Lause <markalause <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> It's a question of positioning such a reform [sc. getting rid of 
> "don't ask don't tell"] as a pro-military, patriotic
> innovation.  If he's studied his Lincoln as much as he supposedly has, he'll
> be waiting for a grand victory--or something that can pass for that--like
> Antietam. 

The analogy seems a little forced. The Civil War, after all, was *about* 
slavery. 

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Mark Lause | 1 Dec 04:24
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Re: Don't Ask, Just Tell

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Yes, Michael.  The analogy is forced, but I was not suggesting the analogy
had any validity.

However, the differing issues of the war has no more to do with the p.r.
considerations of managing perceptions of it than where the war is fought.

ML
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Gary MacLennan | 1 Dec 05:07
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spasm in electoral politics in Oz

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The leadership contest in the conservative Liberal Party, which is in
opposition, here in Australia has just completed a leadership contest.
Murdoch's Australian reported the event  thus:

*"THIS is a fundamental change in the power and ideology of the Liberal
Party. A highly progressive leader, Malcolm Turnbull, has been replaced by a
highly conservative leader, Tony Abbott.  *A leader pledged to support the
Rudd Government’s Emissions Trading Scheme has been replaced by a leader
opposed to this scheme. This issue will now be resolved by the people. It is
no surprise that in his victory comments Tony Abbott focused on an election
declaring that he did not fear an election on the ETS. Abbott is a
conviction politician and a complete authentic. He will be a direct,
forceful and energetic leader with deep roots in the ethos of the Liberal
Party. But the viability of this decision will be determined by the election
result – this is a vote for an election on climate change. The feature of
the ballot was the strong performance of Turnbull. He nearly won, contrary
to nearly all media predictions. The failure of the progressive camp was
that Turnbull and Hockey split their vote with Turnbull outpolling Hockey
yet just falling short of defeating Abbott."

There is much that is just rubbish in this short report.  For instance
Turnbull, a former merchant banker, was very far from "highly progressive".
Moreover the ETS shceme he agreed to was far from progressive or radical.
But seemingly it was too radical for most of the Liberal Party.  The winner,
Tony Abbott, is described as a "conviction politician".  I suppose by
Australian standards he is.  His background is that of an ex-seminarian
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MICHAEL YATES | 1 Dec 05:08
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another professor's good name dragged through the mud

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James Towey, president of my alma mater (St. Vincent College in Latrobe, PA) and formerly the head of Bush's
Office of Faith-Based Initiatives, recently resigned, after a two-year period of rising, student,
faculty, and alumni anger and protest.  Towey is an utterly disgusting individual who ran roughshod over
faculty, staff, and students.  One of the faculty members who was outspokenly opposed to Towey (most of the
tenured faculty signed a letter to the Board decrying Towy's administration) was a Benedictine priest
and professor of anthropology, Father Mark Gruber.  In what looks like an act of retaliation, Towey and his
execrable crew of supporters, including the Archabbot Douglas Nowicki and a wretched monk name Campion
Gavaler, had the Pennsylvania State Police confiscate Father Mark's
  computer, telling the police that it contained child pornography.  This is not true.  Read the story in
today's Inside Higher Education for the details: 
http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/11/30/vincent.  

I have been involved in alumni efforts to get rid of Towey and Nowicki.  In all my years in academe, this is one
of the lowest things I have seen. The professor has been denied the right to teach and  to say Mass.  He has
hired a lawyer, however, and put his case to canon lawyers as well.  There is every reason to think he will be
completely exonerated.  The police have refused to bring charges, and the initial Church investigation
found no merit to the charges either.  But his life is in shambles.

It is more than ironic that a super righteous religious zealot like Towey would use child pornograhy
charges against an opponent, knowing that this would resonate with so many people, in light of the
horrible behavior of so many priests.

By the way, before his gig with the Bush administration, Towey was US attorney for the Albanian charlatan,
Mother Teresa.
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Dennis Brasky | 1 Dec 07:00
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How Free-Market Delusions Destroyed the Economy

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Stuart Munckton | 1 Dec 08:14
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Re: spasm in electoral politics in Oz

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Interestingly while this is occurring in the Liberal Party, from the other
side of the spectrum, the Greens are polling at their highest ever
level<http://www.smh.com.au/national/go-joe-voters-back-hockey-20091129-jyv9.html>
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"Since the last poll three weeks ago, the biggest mover was the Greens,
whose primary vote rose 4 percentage points to 13 per cent, their highest
rating in 37 years.

"Labor's primary vote fell three points to 42 per cent and the Coalition's
fell one point to 37 per cent."

For opposite reasons, the Greens, like the Liberals under Abbott, oppose the
emissions trading bill. Not on the grounds of climate change denial (or
barely disguised climate denial) but because the bill will make the problem
worse while pretending to tackle it.

That is also the position of the climate movement (as I understand it, even
peak body Australian Conservation Federation finally balked at the further
watering down of the bill negotiated with Turnbull and said they couldn't
support it).

Simon Butler's article <http://www.greenleft.org.au/2009/820/42162> in the
current Green Left Weekly put the Liberal debate well: between the climate
deniers and the climate pretenders. Deposed leader Malcolm Turnball argued
the Liberals would be "unelectable" unless they *looked* like they were
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