Dan Russell | 1 Nov 02:02
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Die Linke and Class Representation

An interesting article, I haven't seen it posted so forgive me if it has
been.

http://www.isj.org.uk/index.php4?id=578&issue=124

Dan
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nada | 1 Nov 02:05
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Re: Fight far from over in Honduras: Will pact allow Zelaya to use the bully pulpit?

A rather unfortunate blog item, then. It is written as if the illusions 
that define the current state of consciousness in Honduras do not exist, 
as if only they could hear of "The Good News" all would by Right and Red.

What brings the masses into continual strikes in Honduras, the workers 
out in demonstrations, clashes etc *never* changed: return of the Prez 
to office. What got his ass thrown out was his *suggestion* of a 
Constituent Assembly. The CA is too radical for Pinochetti and the 
Honduran national Oligarchy. They don't want a democratic solution. They 
like the fact that the democratic implications of Honduras' 150 years of 
independence from Spain never made it pass the formality of the Republic 
and picture of democracy: 2 dimensional and flat.

If the masses are for democracy, it is not for anyone to say otherwise. 
Is it? If it was the return of the Prez to office booted out by their 
class enemy, how do remote admonitions about the need to to "abandon 
illusions in democracy" (my paraphrase) at all have any resonances *what 
so ever*????

Revolutionaries will not only support the call for the Constituent 
Assembly and that which the Oligarchical capitalist compradores oppose 
enough to out the President, they will be the best builders of it. I 
*strongly suspect* that Revolutionaries there, if they actually *lead* 
the movement there, are or part and parcel of this movement, they will 
raise the fact that they the Honduran democratic revolution will call 
for any CA to be completely *sovereign* and write a social constitution. 
Building peoples and workers organizations to base such a CA on, or 
exist parallel to it, will be something that has to grow *organically* 
out of that movement, but it won't happen unless there is a mobilization 
*for* a Constituent Assembly [because that is where "people with 
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S. Artesian | 1 Nov 04:17
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Re: Fight far from over in Honduras: Will pact allow Zelaya to use the bully pulpit?

Certainly you can work within a united front, class-based, around a 
constituent assembly, but the fact of the matter is, such an assembly is 
incapable of resolving any of the issues that drive the revolution forward. 
So any support really has to be critical support.

You think this is about Zelaya getting thrown out of the country?  At core? 
Not hardly-- that's just the triggering incident.

Democratic revolutions don't come to power period, I would think that much 
is painfully obvious based on the last 92 years of history.

Not for nothing, but the demand for a constituent assembly in Russia was 
never realized, never acted upon, and never separated from the existence of 
the soviets, and the growing demands for the soviets to take power.

And there is no evidence that agitation of for around a constituent assembly 
leads to anything beyond retreat, retrenchment of the struggle.  I know it's 
a tender issue for some, but look at the history of the MNR in Bolivia. 
Look at the MAS in Bolivia now and the demand for a constituent assembly. 
Where did that go?  The constituent assembly, which is the radical version 
of a government of "national reconciliation," resolved almost nothing, and 
its "sovereignty" was jettisoned by those who proclaimed the CA as central 
to democracy.

I don't know that those struggling in Honduras are struggling more for 
"democracy" than they are for "socialism."  You don't know that either. 
What you see is the movement erupting from deep-seated social reasons, 
economic reasons, class reasons, that are, in essence, irresolvable by 
democracy or a "democratic revoluton."

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glparramatta | 1 Nov 05:30
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South Africa: Time for a new democratic left party? | Links International Journal of Socialist Renewal

October 20, 2009 -- Rhodes University, Grahamstown -- "The left movement 
outside the South African Communist Party is weak, fragmented and 
disorganised", said Mazibuko Jara, former South African Community Party 
(SACP) spokesperson and editor of /Amandla/ magazine during a public 
dialogue at Rhodes University on October 16.

"The majority of the people in South Africa still look up to the ANC as 
their only hope and anyone who wants to start a new left party must take 
this into account," he said.

According to Jara, a new left wing political party must try to mobilise 
as many people as possible and unite all the left organisations in the 
country. Jara, together with Vishwas Satgar, a former Gauteng provincial 
secretary of the SACP, are leading an initiative to establish a new left 
political party in South Africa because of the dissatisfaction with the 
SACP's leadership.

Full article at http://links.org.au/node/1327

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http://www.feedblitz.com/f/?Sub=343373

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Politicus E. | 1 Nov 14:24
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Arundhati Roy's Essay on "Mr Chidambaram’s War"

Source:  Outlook (www.outlookindia.com), 9 November 2009

"A math question: How many soldiers will it take to contain the
mounting rage of hundreds of millions of people?"

Link:  http://www.outlookindia.com/printarticle.aspx?262519

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Ian Angus | 1 Nov 15:21
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New at Climate and Capitalism

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Shawn Redden | 1 Nov 16:27
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Honduras

The money quote in this short Bloomberg piece comes from Micheletti's 
mouthpiece and pretty much sums it up:  "Zelaya won't be restored. 
But just by signing this agreement we already have the recognition of 
the international community for the elections":
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&sid=a9weUnTDSA74

Flashpoints in Berkeley reported on Friday afternoon from the 
Brazilian embassy where Zelaya is being held.  A real report - not 
mainstream bullshit:
http://aud1.kpfa.org/data/20091030-Fri1700.mp3

No matter the topic, I fail to understand why any cheerleading and/or 
stovepiping of rope-a-dope 'reporting' and passive-voice speculation 
in the lying bourgeois media doesn't pass through a more rigorous 
bullshit detector before list-members hit the submit button.

The Obama love-fest defies comprehension when his voice in the 
region, Thomas Shannon, served as "Consular/Political Rotational 
Officer" in Guatemala City between 1984-1986.  (Stan Goff always said 
an embassy's 'political' section was a euphemism for CIA).  Put 
simply, neither he, nor 'Wal-Mart' Clinton, nor her hatchet-man Lanny 
Davis are really are our allies.

Really.

The United States' first Black president could have demanded Zelaya's 
restoration with concrete action for more than 4 months.  Instead, 
his gift for sophistry has helped him DO precisely the reverse.  His 
Blackness doesn't mean a damn thing to Pedro Munoz.

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Politicus E. | 1 Nov 20:25
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Tom Cod | 1 Nov 20:39
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Re: Fight far from over in Honduras: Will pact allow Zelaya to use the bully pulpit?


This is all well and good but I'm wondering why I no longer receive posts from these two worthies and others in
my hotmail account?  I look in the junk folder and they're not there either.  I retrieved these two posts from
the "last 100 messages site".  

 S.Artesian wrote:

> 

> Yeah, Vidal spoke out against the cops in 1968-- big deal, so did Abraham 

> Ribicoff and from the podium of the convention.  Are we supposed to get all 

> misty-eyed over that 41 year old stance?

> 

moderator:

I will always have a soft spot for Vidal after reading this in 

"Palimpsest", one of his memoirs:

"As I left Henry Kissinger in the Sistine Chapel, gazing thoughtfully at 

the hell section of 'The Last Judgment,' I said to the lady with me, 

'Look, he's apartment hunting.'" 		 	   		  
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Les Schaffer | 1 Nov 21:02

Re: Class, Nation, and Health: with some thoughts about H1N1, and building movement capacity

kersplebedeb wrote:
> What follows is a rough version of a talk i gave at Montreal's Native 
> Friendship Center, at the Anti-Colonial Thanksgiving organized by Frigo 
> Vert last Thursday night.

your H1N1 site is great resource for H1N1 and you are a wonderful writer.

Les

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