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Bill Totten | 1 Mar 2011 01:12
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[BillTottenWeblog] Riegel Explains the Foundations ...

... of Economic Democracy

by Thomas H Greco

Beyond Money (February 27 2011)

Devoted to the liberation of money and credit, and the restoration of the
commons

I have often referred to E C Riegel as a "master of monetary truth". His
insight is astounding, his logic impeccable, and his expression eloquent.
In this essay on Economic Democracy, he shows the way out of our present
predicament an into a new world of peace, justice and prosperity. I urge
you to read the entire essay but I don't want you to miss his bottom line:

    Once a monetary science develops, it will no more be localized or
nationalized than mathematics is today. There opens before the mind,
therefore, the prospect of a universal monetary unit and system that will
operate without regard for political boundaries. It will have no
nationality or politics. None will be coerced to participate. None will be
barred. There will be but one monetary language for the world, and a
democratic monetary system will unite people everywhere in the universal
freedom of exchange.

Economic Democracy

The End of Monetary Nationalism

by E C Riegel
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Razer | 1 Mar 2011 01:26
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Re: Anatomy of a protest: From a simple march to a national fight

Why not just call it what it is... The "Wrap Up"... The "Post-Mortem (or
Game)"

Time to go home before the governor's 'State of the State' speech
tomorrow. The few hundred protesters left at that time WILL BE removed
if they don't leave voluntarily.

Better start expanding it beyond "Unions" now, else the dispersion of
the energy put into this, at a nationwide scale, despite the fact that 6
or 7 other states have anti-union bills pending, will NOT reinvent the
"Cheeze Revolution"[tm].

"Union resources are a Piper Cub against the business class’s F-16."
(src below)

Awww don''t feel bad! Woodstock wasn't the same the second time around
either so don't feel like something's wrong...

Stan Goff, FORMER JSOC Special Operator, FORMER Marxist, and all around
nice-guy, has a critique for y' all.

I just want to add to his screed... You'd better get the MASSIVE NUMBER
OF UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE, UNION OR NOT involved, or your trade unions, as
FUCKED UP AS THEY ARE, will be finished once and for all within a few years.

That means organizing FOR ALL workers, for their rights and benefits
DESPITE THE FACT THEY PAY DUES TO NO ONE, and not  just to get them to
join some union or another so you can 'organize' them... That can wait.

Most unoin organizers think they ARE doing that... Hypothetically...
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Sid Shniad | 1 Mar 2011 01:48
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As Arab World Shakes, Iran’s Influence Grows

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/24/world/middleeast/24saudis.html?_r=1&ref=global-home

New York
Times
February 23, 2011
Arab Unrest Propels Iran as Saudi Influence Declines By MICHAEL
SLACKMAN<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/michael_slackman/index.html?inline=nyt-per>

MANAMA, Bahrain — The popular revolts shaking the Arab world have begun to
shift the balance of power in the region, bolstering
Iran<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/iran/index.html?inline=nyt-geo>’s
position while weakening and unnerving its rival, Saudi
Arabia<http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/saudiarabia/index.html?inline=nyt-geo>,
regional experts said.

While it is far too soon to write the final chapter on the uprisings’
impact, Iran has already benefited from the ouster or undermining of Arab
leaders who were its strong adversaries and has begun to project its growing
influence, the analysts said. This week Iran sent two warships through the
Suez Canal for the first time since its revolution in 1979, and Egypt’s new
military leaders allowed them to pass.

Saudi Arabia, an American ally and a Sunni nation that jousts with Shiite
Iran for regional influence, has been shaken. King Abdullah on Wednesday
signaled his concern by announcing a $10 billion increase in welfare
spending to help young people marry, buy homes and open businesses, a
gesture seen as trying to head off the kind of unrest that fueled protests
around the region.

King Abdullah then met with the king of
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Steven Robinson | 1 Mar 2011 07:37
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Taking sides about Libya

Taking sides about Libya

Todd Chretien examines the attitude of the Workers World Party and Party for
Liberation and Socialism toward Muammar el-Qaddafi's dictatorship in Libya.

SocialistWorker.org
February 28, 2011

Mourners carry the body of a 44-year-old man killed in clashes with
pro-Qaddafi forces in eastern TripoliMourners carry the body of a
44-year-old man killed in clashes with pro-Qaddafi forces in eastern Tripoli

"Of all the struggles going on in North Africa and the Middle East right
now, the most difficult to unravel is the one in Libya." -- Workers World
Party, February 23, 2011

"At present, the revolt has not produced any organizational form or leader
that would make it possible to characterize it politically." -- Party for
Socialism and Liberation, February 24, 2011

THOSE WERE the statements last week from two well-known U.S. socialist
groups active in anti-imperialist movements. As madman Muammar el-Qaddafi
ranted in his bunker about al-Qaeda slipping hallucinogens into young
people's coffee in order to make them rebel, the Workers World Party (WWP)
and Party for Liberation and Socialism (PSL) refused to take a stand with
the Libyan people against a dictator.

These two organizations, part of the same group until 2004, have long
accepted the Libyan dictatorship's claim to be progressive and
anti-imperialist in spite of the corruption of the country's tiny elite
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Gary Crethers | 1 Mar 2011 07:38
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Libya Questions of Theory

Libya, Questions Of TheoryFebruary 28th, 2011 
The issue of the correct position regarding Libya is interesting. I have 
reproduced an article from the Socialist Workers Party regarding the position of 
the Workers World Party and Party of Socialism and Liberation, I also included 
my response to their position. I know, its boring, but I love this shit. 

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From Socialist Workers Party Paper
Taking sides about Libya Todd Chretien examines the attitude of the Workers 
World Party and Party for Liberation and Socialism toward Muammar el-Qaddafi’s 
dictatorship in Libya.
February 28, 2011
“Of all the struggles going on in North Africa and the Middle East right now, 
the most difficult to unravel is the one in Libya.”
— Workers World Party, February 23, 2011
“At present, the revolt has not produced any organizational form or leader that 
would make it possible to characterize it politically.”
— Party for Socialism and Liberation, February 24, 2011
THOSE WERE the statements last week from two well-known U.S. socialist groups 
active in anti-imperialist movements. As madman Muammar el-Qaddafi ranted in his 
bunker about al-Qaeda slipping hallucinogens into young people’s coffee in order 
to make them rebel, the Workers World Party (WWP) and Party for Liberation and 
Socialism (PSL) refused to take a stand with the Libyan people against a 
dictator.
These two organizations, part of the same group until 2004, have long accepted 
the Libyan dictatorship’s claim to be progressive and anti-imperialist in spite 
of the corruption of the country’s tiny elite around Qaddafi and the savagery of 
the regime’s police-state repression and violence–now on sickening display for 
all the world to see.
As recently as 2009, the WWP, for example, published an article that spoke
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Gary Crethers | 1 Mar 2011 07:56
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Libya Theory Revised

I should have said Socialist Worker.Org not Socialist Workers Party. They are 
two different peas in that pod. 

      
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Macdonald Stainsby | 1 Mar 2011 08:17
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Re: Libya Questions of Theory

All of this shit is extremely boring, so I agree with Gary on that.

However, I will add in a few chimes of my own.

No one can possibly have an easy time watching the brutality nakedly on 
display here in Tripoli and elsewhere. However, Gray makes a mistake 
when he refers to Fidel celebrating Qaddafi. He wrote something that a 
few people might want to seriously mull over, that this could be a 
serious set-up for imperialism. Worse yet, when the regime of Mubarak 
the torturing murderous thug was going down did we hear the kind of 
nonsense we are now about "no fly zones" and more?

Are we not a little bit suspicious of the fact that we now have this 
going on, from the BBC:

"The US defence department says it is repositioning forces in the Libya 
region as the West weighs potential intervention against Muammar Gaddafi.

The Pentagon said it was moving forces to "provide for that flexibility 
once decisions are made".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12603320

Ahem, Qaddafi, who I will admit to having had moderate interest in over 
a decade back, based on their economic structures and the blueprint of 
the first two chapters in his Green Book (I have a copy here), sold out 
big time to the West. There was a combination of a wholesale 
privatization of the economy and a destruction of the countries 
independence. Frankly, having just left the ultra-democratic Venezuela a 
little over a week ago I'm pissed off at Chávez waving his flag. He was 
a sell-out before and now he's a blood covered thug.
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Gary Crethers | 1 Mar 2011 09:02
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Re-Libya Theory

Todd Chreiten wrote the article. I wrote a critique that is at the end of his 
article. He is critisizing WWP and PSL for supporting so called Communist 
Dictators and not following the masses. I questioned when are the masses correct 
and when are they deluded.

     Libya in particluar I am wondering who is who and what do they stand for. 
The media has been very cadgy on political positions and have simply portrayed 
Quaddafi as a maniac. Now the  US Navy is moving into position for an assault on 
Libya and Italy has abrogated a non agression treaty. They could easily be 
moving in for a power grab with some Libyan exile flunkies like they tried to do 
in Iraq. 

      
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Suzanne de Kuyper | 1 Mar 2011 10:18
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Fwd: Libya Questions of Theory

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From: Suzanne de Kuyper <suzannedk <at> gmail.com>
Date: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 10:15 AM
Subject: Fwd: [R-G] Libya Questions of Theory
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Both (two in one) of these posts are priceless....the second one will
interest Nadja too. Last night late in the E.U., the tv footage showed
Tripoli with deserted streets, a disembodied, broken English speaking
accented voice saying in low tone 'everyone is inside, everyone is afraid,
the soldiers from outside have entered the country to stop us, they are, we
must hide'.   The comment in one of these papers states that one must wait
until the dust settles, wait until the E.U. and the U.S. have moved in to
contain everything in order to know what has happened, who led this, ( or
how to characterize it in history books later) describes deep puzzlement.
 The statement that this is going to be a U.S./E.U. setup to take over the
Libyan fields and make up for the losses in Egypt is probably spot-on
though....And Catherine Ashton is so cool. Personally, I think theory is
being made on the ground by masses that can neither read nor write, theory
not yet written...after the fact will be changing again!  Suzanne

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From: Macdonald Stainsby <mstainsby <at> resist.ca>
Date: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [R-G] Libya Questions of Theory
To: Suzanne de Kuyper <suzannedk <at> gmail.com>

All of this shit is extremely boring, so I agree with Gary on that.

However, I will add in a few chimes of my own.
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Aaron Aarons | 1 Mar 2011 10:33
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Re: Libya Questions of Theory

I'm not sure what's boring, except perhaps the ISO's Todd Chretien's
rehashing their tendency's third-campist critique of "Stalinism" -- a
term they use much too broadly.

To me the task that we in the imperialist countries have to deal with is
basically simple: to do everything possible to undermine moves towards
imperialist intervention of any kind in Libya or anywhere. This includes
publicizing every bit of information that undercuts lies like the
"genocide" mantra (and the media's repeatedly referring to anti-Qadaffi
fighters as 'demonstrators'!) and constantly reminding people that the
ongoing mass murders by imperialism dwarf those that Qaddafi or any
other enemy du jour may be guilty of, or even capable of. In particular,
we should expose the truth about imperialist mass murder in the Congo
since 1996, and it's prequel in the U.S.-organized, Ugandan-based, Paul
Kagame-led ethnic Tutsi invasion and capture of Rwanda in 1990-94.

It also includes opposing "humanitarian" imperialist intervention, or
intervention to stop "genocide", since the imperialists will be the ones
to define those terms and will shape such intervention in their
interests and inevitably against the interests of the bulk of the
world's population, and usually of the local working-class and plebeian
population as well. (The U.S. imperialist occupation of Haiti after last
year's earthquake is a case in point.)

 - Aaron

P.S. Unfortunately, we don't have the ability, even to the limited
extent the comrades of the Red Army Faction had in their heyday, to
militarily interfere with imperialist war-making, although we should
certainly come to the defense of any person or group anywhere that might
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