S.K.Rajendran | 1 Aug 2010 03:55
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Weak monitoring system results in RISE OF FAKE SIDDHA DOCS

 

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Weak monitoring system results in RISE OF FAKE SIDDHA DOCS

Mystery Over How Many Of Them Got Certificate To Practise

Pushpa Narayan | TNN

Chennai: Prabhu P (40), Sahaya Stalin (34), N Surender Singh (53) and K
Sarajudeen (36): These are Siddha doctors with 'certificates of
enlistment' issued by the Tamil Siddha Medical Council which gives them the
right to practise.

What is baffling is that though the law clearly states that such
certificates can be issued only to persons who were born before 1953,
neither the council, which issued the certificate, nor the commissionerate
of Indian Medicine know how persons much younger got these certificates.

Enlistment certificates are issued to those who are not academically
qualified, but inherited knowledge and skills from their forefathers.
According to the Board of Indian Medicine registrar Sai Prasad, "Such
certificates were issued only to people born before 1953 and none was issued
after 1998."

By this logic those who are below 57 years of age should not have
obtained a qualifying degree to practise.

"We don't know if their certificates are original," said Sai Prasad. "We
will have to go through the voluminous register to figure this out. There
are more than 7,000 Siddha practitioners, of whom more than 2,000 have
certificates of enlistment. The board has just two staff members for
registering Unani, Siddha and Ayurveda practitioners. We can't readily check
if these persons have faked the certificates," he said.

Commissioner of Indian Medicine Ramesh Kumar Khanna said his office did
not deal with registrations. "These things are left to the Board. We don't
maintain data," he said.

In July, after the police arrested more than 200 doctors, the
commissionerate approached the state health department as it found many of
the arrested doctors were qualified practitioners.

Following this,a government order permitting Indian medicine
practitioners to prescribe allopathic drugs was issued on July 19. Close on
the heels of this, the Madras HC also said Siddha, Unani and Ayurveda
doctors could practise surgery, gynaecology, ophthalmology, ENT and
anaesthesia.

The practitioners of traditional forms of medicines and the Central
Council for Indian Medicine (CCIM) have welcomed the judgment. But even
those like siddha practitioner V Stanley Jones, vice president of CCIM, are
cautious. "We should be careful about giving such powers. The state should
ensure there is no misuse by unqualified persons," he said.

Meanwhile, the Board had found a considerable number of certificates
sent to it for verification by NGOs, police and IMPCOPS to be fake. "We
reported a several fake certificates in the last three months," a senior
health department official said.

The department said it was aware of the problem. "We have clearly stated
that such people can't prescribe allopathic medicine or perform surgeries.
It's allowed only for those with academic training. We are working on the
guidelines to clear the air. The guidelines will define what traditional
practitioners can do," said health secretary VK Subburaj.

UNCLEAR ON NORMS

Enlistment certificates were to be issued only to those who had attained a
certain age by 1971 but much younger people have got them

Enlistment certificates are issued by the Council to those who are not
academically qualified but inherited knowledge and skills from forefathers.
There are more than 2000 doctors with these certificates in the state

A government order (no 2102) dated Nov 17, 1981 had said that such
certificates should be given only to persons who have attained the age of 18
as on Oct 1, 1971 and by then should have been a practitioner for at least
five years

A subsequent order (no 1172) dated Sept 2, 1993 to enlist practitioners
registered in 1982 nullified the earlier order. Officials in the state
health department say there was no relaxation of age. The certificates were
issued to eligible people who did not get them in 1982

Certificate of enlistment was last issued in 1999. In the past few
months, a number of fake certificates were reported. Many practitioners
enrolled with IMPCOPS are just in their 30s

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    S.K.Rajendran | 1 Aug 2010 04:04
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    Doctors in a fix over endorsing food products

     

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    Doctors in a fix over endorsing food products
    Arun Ram | TNN

    Chennai: The Indian Medical Association (IMA), an organisation of 2 lakh
    Indian doctors, is in a spot with the National Human Rights Commission
    (NHRC) serving notice on the health ministry on the IMA endorsing two food
    products in violation of its own code of ethics. Under fire for endorsing
    Tropicana fruit juice and Quaker oats under a Rs 2.25-crore, three-year
    contract that ends next year, the IMA has decided not to endorse any product
    in the future, but is finding it tough to wriggle out of existing contracts.

    The NHRC notice, dated June 30, follows a complaint from Dr KV Babu, an
    IMA central committee member, citing a study by the National Institute of
    Nutrition, Hyderabad, which found that consumption of more than 200ml of
    pre-prepared fruit juice daily could cause dwarfism and obesity in kids.

    IMA became the first medical association in the world to endorse food
    products in 2008. "It was a mistake and we have decided not to endorse any
    product," MCI president Dr Samara Goparaju told TOI.

    IMA did explore legal options of terminating the contracts, but it found
    the settlement unaffordable. "The settlement amount would be too huge for us
    to handle. We will never do such a thing again but for now, there seems to
    be no way but to continue with the contracts," said MCI honorary-general
    secretary Dr Dharam Prakash.

    SEAL OF APPROVAL

    IMA became the first medical association in the world to endorse food
    products in 2008
    It endorsed Tropicana fruit juice and Quaker oats under a Rs 2.25-crore,
    3-year contract

    NHRC served a notice to the health ministry on IMA's endorsement of food
    products
    IMA won't endorse products in future, but it can't wriggle out of current
    commitments

    IMA's endorsement contracts for food products end next yr

    Chennai: Under fire for endorsing Tropicana fruit juice and Quaker oats
    under a Rs 2.25-crore, three-year contract that ends next year, the IMA has
    decided not to endorse any product in future, but is finding it tough to
    wriggle out of its existing commitments.

    "While those of food products end next year, a contract with Aquaguard
    water purifier is valid till 2013," added MCI honorary-general secretary Dr
    Dharam Prakash.

    Besides the food products, IMA has endorsement contracts with health and
    hygiene products, including Dettol, Lizol (sanitizers), Aquaguard (water
    purifier) and Pampers (napkins). As per the contract, manufacturers of these
    products can display the IMA logo on their packs - often done next to claims
    of health benefits - and in some cases carry the text "recommended by the
    Indian Medical Association".

    The Medical Council of India (MCI) is likely to take up the issue next
    month. "We will discuss the matter in the first meeting of the reconstituted
    code of ethics committee in August. We will work towards cleansing the whole
    system and preventing such mistakes," MCI board of governance member P
    Prasannarajan said.

    IMA's plight is reminiscent of a similar situation faced by the American
    Medical Association (AMA) in 1988 when it was caught in the vortex of a
    controversy following a contract with medical equipment manufacturer Sunbeam
    Corporation. Withdrawing from the deal, AMA had to settle a
    breach-ofcontract suit by paying $9.9 million (Rs 45 crore).

    While such a settlement would cost IMA dearly, the decision not to
    endorse any product would significantly reduce its revenue. Of IMA's revenue
    of Rs 1.94 crore in 2009-2010, Rs 1 crore came from endorsements.

    While the IMA code of ethics had banned doctors from endorsing products,
    it was silent on whether a doctor's organisation could do that. However, an
    amendment to the code of ethics in December 2009 brought the organisation
    also under the ambit of the ban.
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      S.K.Rajendran | 1 Aug 2010 04:18
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      CWG officials mint money at home, in UK

       

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      CWG officials mint money at home, in UK

      Quality certificates turn out to be fake
      Pradeep Thakur | TNN

      New Delhi: In an astounding disclosure that could blow the lid off a big
      scandal involving the Commonwealth Games, top sources in the Central
      Vigilance Commission (CVC) told TOI that every quality certificate
      scrutinised by a CVC team in 16 Games projects had turned out to be forged
      or suspect.

      "It's a very disturbing discovery," said an official. "Fake certificates
      were being issued to pass sub-standard work and material. We have not yet
      been able to gauge the financial implication, but it is certain to have led
      to very big gains for vendors and contractors."

      Following this discovery, the CBI director had a meeting with chief
      vigilance commissioner Pratyush Sinha last week. Besides the cases being
      referred to it by the CVC, the CBI team is going through numerous complaints
      it received from different channels.

      The CVC has so far scrutinized just 16 Games-related stadia upgradation
      and civil works projects, which include construction of roads, pavements,
      road grade separators and street lighting. These projects are cumulatively
      worth Rs 2,477.22 crore.

      In the course of its scrutiny, the CVC team zeroed in on the role of the
      third party quality assurance agency, appointed by civic agencies to monitor
      the quality of work and materials.

      CASH TRAIL LEADS TO LONDON
      THE DISCREPANCY: OC states that it transferred £2,47,469 (about Rs 1.68cr)
      for video equipment purchased. AM Films says it provided services of ''car
      hire, makeshift toilets, barriers and electricity''

      THE MYSTERY: Visit to premises of AM Films UK Ltd in London shows that the
      company on location is AM Vehicles Hire Ltd. The director, Ashish Patel, had
      resigned on July 14, 2010 THE CHARGE: British Revenue & Customs Dept has
      written to Indian High Commission, saying there was no written contract
      between CWG and AM Films, no tendering procedure was followed, and no
      paperwork regarding the contract was done

      THE RESPONSE: ''The OC firmly refutes allegations of financial
      irregularities''
      Lalit Bhanot | OC SECY-GEN CM'S OFFICE PLAYS DOWN CVC REPORT Chief
      minister Sheila Dikshit called a press conference and refused to comment on
      CVC's damning findings
      Late at night, the CM's office issued a brief note saying that these were
      "routine" inspections by CVC's chief technical examiner

      It said these reports are sent to different agencies for remedial action.
      The reports were the first step and not CVC's final report. The stench of
      corruption coming from reports was brushed aside

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        S.K.Rajendran | 1 Aug 2010 05:00
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        Officials plant snakes, extort money

         

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        UNDER THE TABLE

        Officials plant snakes, extort money

        For Years, Forest Men Used The Method To Fleece Tourists In TN
        Radha Venkatesan | TNN

        Coimbatore: It was an "Operation Snake" by forest officials that targeted
        unsuspecting tourists with an intention of extorting money and the police
        smelled a rat. And now a forest official behind the slithery racket has
        landed in jail and an assistant conservator of forests is absconding.

        Over the last few years, two senior forest officials in western Tamil
        Nadu have been stealthily stashing Red Sand Boa, an endangered species of
        snake, in the cars of tourists coming to Pollachi and Udumalpet near
        Coimbatore. They would then "trap" the tourists with the snakes and threaten
        them into paying up huge sums for letting them go. Smuggling and possession
        of the snake is an offence under the Wildlife Protection Act.

        S eve r a l tourists are said to have quietly paid the money fearing
        harassment. But the lid was blown off the snake scam recently when a group
        of real estate agents from Wayanad in Kerala arrived in Pollachi to look up
        some property. Police said Abubakker, Sundaram and Mohandas came to
        Sirumagai on July 26 and met a real estate broker, KS Jose, at Sirumugai for
        buying land in Pollachi. Jose is said to have taken them around Pollachi in
        a car. When the car reached Sultanpet, G Sivakumar, a lecturer in the forest
        college at Vaigai Dam, who was in uniform and assistant conservator of
        forests R Nedunchezian arrived on the scene. They stopped the car for a
        "routine inspection" and found a snake in the trunk of the vehicle.
        Sivakumar then allegedly asked the real estate agents to part with Rs 5 lakh
        or face imprisonment.

        The three agents were then taken to Kurichikottai in Udumalpet and kept
        in safe custody in a bungalow. The next day, they were shifted to a lodge in
        Pollachi where the harassed agents paid Rs 50,000. Meanwhile, Abubakker
        called his relative, who is a police officer in Chennai, and informed him
        about their plight. Immediately, the Pollachi police descended on the lodge
        and "freed" the three agents. During inquiry, the police found that the
        forest officials Sivakumar and Nedunchezian were setting up "fake traps"
        with the help of their associates Jose, R Yogaraj and D Sriram Kumaran.
        According to the police, Jose, Yogaraj and Sriram Kumaran used to "plant'
        snakes in vehicles and inform the forest officials.

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          S.K.Rajendran | 1 Aug 2010 08:43
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          Who will foot my hospital bills, asks reader

           

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          Who will foot my hospital bills, asks reader

          Ayub Khan

          Iam a resident of Kammanahalli near Kacharkanahalli. As citizens of
          Bangalore, we pay property taxes, water and sanitary charges and health and
          education cess regularly.

          I was hospitalised at Lakeside Hospital on June 28 since I tested
          positive for dengue fever. I was discharged on July 3 and the hospital bill
          came up to Rs 28,000. It didn't end there. Posthospitalisation expenses were
          also high and I continue to have joint
          pain, nausea, sleepiness, dizziness and
          overall weakness.

          WILL GO TO WHO

          Who, then, will foot my hospital bills? We want to lodge a complaint against
          BBMP through an advocate and we may approach organisations like WHO.

          As you know, this disease is spread through mosquitos and there are many
          cases in Bangalore as a result of which hospitals are full of
          dengue-positive patients. Doctors clearly say that the disease is due to
          mosquitoes and due to poor sanitation and health control measures.

          BBMP TO BLAME

          The disease would not have spread if BBMP had taken precautionary measures
          like fogging and fumigation, malaria screening programmes and preventive
          health care schemes.

          We residents have hardly seen any such measures in our area near
          Nilgiris (Kammanahalli). We hope BBMP will make efforts to resolve this
          issue. Also, where should we submit our claims for medical expenditure at
          the BBMP?

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            S.K.Rajendran | 2 Aug 2010 01:54
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            This toy train is yet to get the green signal

             

            Source: http://www.hindu.com/2010/08/02/stories/2010080259870200.htm

            This toy train is yet to get the green signal

            It is in Dr. Rajkumar Children's Park at Hanumanthnagar

            'People have given up the hope of seeing the train chugging along'

            The facility can be repaired only after the BBMP budget is presented:
            councillor

            Bangalore: Though the Dr. Rajkumar Children's Park at Hanumanthnagar is one
            of the few parks in the city that can boast a toy train, children in the
            locality are unable to take a joyride on it even three years after it was
            inaugurated.

            The Bruhat Bangalore Mahanagara Palike (BBMP), which developed the park, is
            yet to give the green signal to the train.

            Children disappointed

            The result: a group of disappointed children.

            Kishan V., a class seven student, said, "Every evening I come with the hope
            of riding on the train. But I don't think I will happen anytime soon."

            M. Vijaya Lakshmi, a local resident, said people have given up the hope of
            seeing the train chugging along.

            Another resident, K. Krishnappa, complained that the track had broken and
            needed immediate repairs. At some places, weeds have grown covering the
            track.

            "We have requested BBMP authorities many times to start the facility, but
            our appeals have gone in vain. Though many politicians have visited the
            park, none has taken up the issue," he said.

            The residents claim that the train has been used several times in movies.
            "Even 15 days ago, the train was functioning when there was a film shooting.
            Once the shooting ended, the 'signal suddenly changed to red'," a security
            guard in the park said.

            However, BBMP authorities have denied this.

            The park was thrown open to public on November 1, 2007 by the then MLA K.
            Chandrashekar, who is now Councillor for Hanumanthnagar ward.

            The toy train was started to help children go around the park and catch a
            glimpse of the statues of prominent personalities installed in the park.

            Mr. Chandrashekar said he fulfilled his duty by starting the train but
            maintaining it was not his responsibility.

            He said that the facility could be repaired only after the BBMP budget was
            presented.

            "It has been nearly four months since I was elected Councillor. I will look
            into the issue and direct officials to take action after the budget," he
            said.

            Cost

            According to a source in the BBMP, the park was developed at a cost of over
            Rs. 10 crore.

            The toy train was set up at a cost of Rs. 1.75 crore.

            The BBMP invited tenders five times since November 2007 for maintaining the
            facility, but it met with no response.

            Finally, in January this year, the tender was awarded to Trans India. They
            have to maintain the toy train facility for five years at a cost of Rs. 1
            lakh a year.

            Photo link: http://www.hindu.com/2010/08/02/images/2010080259870201.jpg

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              Amitabh Thakur | 2 Aug 2010 04:41
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              Didnot speak

               

              Friends,

              Recently I had gone to Pune for a Seminar organized by Sadhana Management Institute of an impressive personality Sri M S Pillai. I was invited there as the President of the National RTI forum and the students were quite curious about the facts, figures and aspects related with RTI. There incidentally I and Sri D R Karthikeyan, the IPS officer whom we all know not only as the ex-Director of CBI but also as the head of the SIT team that investigated into the Rajiv Gandhi murder case got placed in the same session. Here along with other things, he also presented one famous quotation by German Pastor Martin Niemöller, an avid anti-Nazi theologian, which has become a bye-word of public conscience. I had possibly heard this before but somehow that day this quote made a great impact upon me and hugely affected my thinking process. The present the quote (despite knowing that for many it would be nothing more than a repetition)-

              "THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
              and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

              THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
              and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

              THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
              and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

              THEN THEY CAME for me
              and by that time no one was left to speak up."

              In my own speech, I gave a live example, which I would like to present before you as well. It is related to a police officer Mr A (who considers himself a right-thinking officer) when he was posted in a district. During those days police officers were being transferred at a very rapid pace, so much so that there were even instances of an officer posted in the morning having got his/her transfer order by the day’s end. In the same circumstances, one fine day an officer in an adjacent district of mine got transferred. He had barely come a week or a fortnight before. Mr A, during his talks to his immediate supervisory officer, who was this transferred officer’s boss as well tried to show his dissent to this kind of rampant transfers giving his own set of logic and arguments for this being detrimental both for the state and the affected individual. To this A’s supervisory officer gave a brief sermon where he not only tried to justify such acts as being necessary for an efficient administration but also being a result of close performance based evaluation. He even warned Mr A of the same, if he didn’t improve his performance to the desired level. Mr A got the message and intelligently turned the topic.

              As luck would have it, barely a week would have passed when the same supervisory officer got transferred. And now Mr A again phoned this officer, but the moment A said that such transfers are not good for the health of state’s administration, this officer’s tone and language was completely changed. This time he not only completely agreed but also added a few more facts and figures to show how such rampant transfers were producing such an adverse impact impact on law and order. His final verdict was that if the same situation prevailed, the day was not far away when the State would get completely out of control. Mr A nodded and apparently agreed to this once more, albeit very well understanding everything.

              The same situation we face each and every day, in all walks of life. We are being averse and unaffected to other’s problems. “Mujhse kya matlab?”, “What is my concern?” and “Why shall I poke my nose” are the usual refrains and the usual reactions to all such situations. But then, are we assured that such things are not going to happen to me and you. And hence after the Communist, the trade-unionist and the “Jew’, it might very well be the turn of a decent person. Sadly, by that time there would be no one left to defend that decent person.

              It was a pleasure and privilege listening to Sri Karthikeyan but at the same time, I must say with a bit of pride that he also seems to have smiled (if not laughed) not less than a dozen times along with the large number of students when the undersigned was delivering his impromptu speech.

              Amitabh Thakur
              IPS,
              Currently at IIM Lucknow
              # 94155-34526

               


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                Amitabh Thakur | 2 Aug 2010 05:06
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                In Out

                 

                Human worth

                Recently during my trip to Pune via Mumbai and back, I had some such firsthand experience of facts which are not only of concern to one and all but also show how much different perspectives people might have exactly on the same set of problems.

                I was invited as the President of National RTI Forum at a Seminar in a management Institute by the name of Sadhana, being run by Prof M V Pillai at Poone. For this I went from Lucknow to Mumbai via a flight and came back the same way but luckily I had the opportunity to go Mumbai to Poona and back on cab. And incidentally, on the two routes I had different drivers- one from Maharashtra and one from Bihar.

                By habit, I had conversations with both of them. While the initial conversation was general in nature, by curiosity very soon I came to the insider-outsider issue.  The person who took me to Poone from Mumbai was a native of Poone.  It started with a large number of posters of a prominent politician replete with Birth-day wishes. I asked him what he thought about him. The cab-driver was all praise for him. He said that this person had done a lot for the people from Maharashtra. Then I asked him what he thought about the very large number of people from other parts of the country coming to Mumbai and getting settled down. He replied- “Well, we don’t mind people coming but there is a problem these people are creating.” When further queried, he said that these people are having adverse effect on the labour market. They were willing to work for very lowly amounts. Since they came to get some employment at any cost, they accepted any wage that they could. Thus for a watchman, the monthly rate could be as low as Rs. 2000 to 3000. Moreover these people had no family with them and hence they were willing to remain at the workplace 24 hours, if they got any small place in a corner to sleep. Thus, these people live a wretched life, working day and night. Surely such a thing is adversely affecting the local people, because they can’t work 24 hours, living with their families elsewhere not could they afford to work at such paltry sums. This phenomenon had a very adverse effect on the entire job market, at the lower end.

                I saw much logic in what he was saying but when coming back I got another story on the same context. This time the driver was from Darbhanga in Mithila region of Bihar. When asked the same question, he said that it were the local people who were responsible for their plight. If they did not work hard and sincerely, who will keep them in job? After all, many local businessmen and industrialists were preferring the people from outside to the local people. There must be some reason for that. Then he started narrating the contributions made by outsider people in and around Mumbai.

                When asked about his own life, he narrated his one day in the following terms-
                He had woken up at 3.30 ij the morning, after the daily rituals reached his office at 7 AM, was assigned his job which he went on doing till 10 PM in the night. At that time when he was thinking to get back to his Chawl, he suddenly got an instruction to take a passenger from Airport to Poone. He reached Poone at 3 AM in the night. Slept in the cab for 2 hours. Reached his Poone office at 6 and was told about me to be taken to Mumbai at 11 AM. slept for 3 hours in the office and was now taking me back,. We reached Mumbai at around 4 PM. He would have reported to the office by 5.30 PM and then the decision about his further work would be intimated to him.

                The story of the first driver was no different. He was also awake for some 24 hours. And they get a princely sum of Rs. 6000 per month for all this work. In this money, they save a part for their family back home. And if they fall ill and are absent for more than 4 days in a month they don’t get salary for those days. If they are seek for a month or so, they have to take loan from loan-sharks. And it takes nearly 6 months to pay them back. This process goes on forever till the time their life’s journey ends- either through an accelerated natural death or through some violence erupting out of Insider-outsider issue.

                Amitabh Thakur
                IPS,
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                  Vinita Vishwas Deshmukh | 2 Aug 2010 05:24
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                  Dear Amitabhji
                  so beautifully written and all that is written is the stark truth- i am using it in IP
                  I wish we had met. Partha told me you are here sometime on saturday morning - i should have called you up myself.
                  pl do inform me next time when you come
                  cheers and warm rgds
                  vinita


                  On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Amitabh Thakur <amitabhth <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
                   

                  Human worth

                  Recently during my trip to Pune via Mumbai and back, I had some such firsthand experience of facts which are not only of concern to one and all but also show how much different perspectives people might have exactly on the same set of problems.

                  I was invited as the President of National RTI Forum at a Seminar in a management Institute by the name of Sadhana, being run by Prof M V Pillai at Poone. For this I went from Lucknow to Mumbai via a flight and came back the same way but luckily I had the opportunity to go Mumbai to Poona and back on cab. And incidentally, on the two routes I had different drivers- one from Maharashtra and one from Bihar.

                  By habit, I had conversations with both of them. While the initial conversation was general in nature, by curiosity very soon I came to the insider-outsider issue.  The person who took me to Poone from Mumbai was a native of Poone.  It started with a large number of posters of a prominent politician replete with Birth-day wishes. I asked him what he thought about him. The cab-driver was all praise for him. He said that this person had done a lot for the people from Maharashtra. Then I asked him what he thought about the very large number of people from other parts of the country coming to Mumbai and getting settled down. He replied- “Well, we don’t mind people coming but there is a problem these people are creating.” When further queried, he said that these people are having adverse effect on the labour market. They were willing to work for very lowly amounts. Since they came to get some employment at any cost, they accepted any wage that they could. Thus for a watchman, the monthly rate could be as low as Rs. 2000 to 3000. Moreover these people had no family with them and hence they were willing to remain at the workplace 24 hours, if they got any small place in a corner to sleep. Thus, these people live a wretched life, working day and night. Surely such a thing is adversely affecting the local people, because they can’t work 24 hours, living with their families elsewhere not could they afford to work at such paltry sums. This phenomenon had a very adverse effect on the entire job market, at the lower end.

                  I saw much logic in what he was saying but when coming back I got another story on the same context. This time the driver was from Darbhanga in Mithila region of Bihar. When asked the same question, he said that it were the local people who were responsible for their plight. If they did not work hard and sincerely, who will keep them in job? After all, many local businessmen and industrialists were preferring the people from outside to the local people. There must be some reason for that. Then he started narrating the contributions made by outsider people in and around Mumbai.

                  When asked about his own life, he narrated his one day in the following terms-
                  He had woken up at 3.30 ij the morning, after the daily rituals reached his office at 7 AM, was assigned his job which he went on doing till 10 PM in the night. At that time when he was thinking to get back to his Chawl, he suddenly got an instruction to take a passenger from Airport to Poone. He reached Poone at 3 AM in the night. Slept in the cab for 2 hours. Reached his Poone office at 6 and was told about me to be taken to Mumbai at 11 AM. slept for 3 hours in the office and was now taking me back,. We reached Mumbai at around 4 PM. He would have reported to the office by 5.30 PM and then the decision about his further work would be intimated to him.

                  The story of the first driver was no different. He was also awake for some 24 hours. And they get a princely sum of Rs. 6000 per month for all this work. In this money, they save a part for their family back home. And if they fall ill and are absent for more than 4 days in a month they don’t get salary for those days. If they are seek for a month or so, they have to take loan from loan-sharks. And it takes nearly 6 months to pay them back. This process goes on forever till the time their life’s journey ends- either through an accelerated natural death or through some violence erupting out of Insider-outsider issue.

                  Amitabh Thakur
                  IPS,
                  Currently at IIM Lucknow
                  # 94155-34526



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                    VB Singh | 2 Aug 2010 05:43
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                    Amitabh,
                     
                    This is bad. you came to Munbai though it was only via but you should have informed me. It was Saturday and I would have met you at Airport at the time of arrival or departure.
                     
                    Anyway, I think IPS officers are not trained to mix up with ordinary (common) people.
                     
                    With regards,
                    VB Singh 

                    --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Vinita Vishwas Deshmukh <vinitapune <at> gmail.com> wrote:

                    From: Vinita Vishwas Deshmukh <vinitapune <at> gmail.com>
                    Subject: Re: [AntiBriberyCampaign] In Out
                    To: antibriberycampaign <at> yahoogroups.com
                    Date: Monday, 2 August, 2010, 8:54 AM

                     
                    Dear Amitabhji
                    so beautifully written and all that is written is the stark truth- i am using it in IP
                    I wish we had met. Partha told me you are here sometime on saturday morning - i should have called you up myself.
                    pl do inform me next time when you come
                    cheers and warm rgds
                    vinita


                    On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Amitabh Thakur <amitabhth <at> yahoo. com> wrote:
                     

                    Human worth

                    Recently during my trip to Pune via Mumbai and back, I had some such firsthand experience of facts which are not only of concern to one and all but also show how much different perspectives people might have exactly on the same set of problems.

                    I was invited as the President of National RTI Forum at a Seminar in a management Institute by the name of Sadhana, being run by Prof M V Pillai at Poone. For this I went from Lucknow to Mumbai via a flight and came back the same way but luckily I had the opportunity to go Mumbai to Poona and back on cab. And incidentally, on the two routes I had different drivers- one from Maharashtra and one from Bihar.

                    By habit, I had conversations with both of them. While the initial conversation was general in nature, by curiosity very soon I came to the insider-outsider issue.  The person who took me to Poone from Mumbai was a native of Poone.  It started with a large number of posters of a prominent politician replete with Birth-day wishes. I asked him what he thought about him. The cab-driver was all praise for him. He said that this person had done a lot for the people from Maharashtra. Then I asked him what he thought about the very large number of people from other parts of the country coming to Mumbai and getting settled down. He replied- “Well, we don’t mind people coming but there is a problem these people are creating.” When further queried, he said that these people are having adverse effect on the labour market. They were willing to work for very lowly amounts. Since they came to get some employment at any cost, they accepted any wage that they could. Thus for a watchman, the monthly rate could be as low as Rs. 2000 to 3000. Moreover these people had no family with them and hence they were willing to remain at the workplace 24 hours, if they got any small place in a corner to sleep. Thus, these people live a wretched life, working day and night. Surely such a thing is adversely affecting the local people, because they can’t work 24 hours, living with their families elsewhere not could they afford to work at such paltry sums. This phenomenon had a very adverse effect on the entire job market, at the lower end.

                    I saw much logic in what he was saying but when coming back I got another story on the same context. This time the driver was from Darbhanga in Mithila region of Bihar. When asked the same question, he said that it were the local people who were responsible for their plight. If they did not work hard and sincerely, who will keep them in job? After all, many local businessmen and industrialists were preferring the people from outside to the local people. There must be some reason for that. Then he started narrating the contributions made by outsider people in and around Mumbai.

                    When asked about his own life, he narrated his one day in the following terms-
                    He had woken up at 3.30 ij the morning, after the daily rituals reached his office at 7 AM, was assigned his job which he went on doing till 10 PM in the night. At that time when he was thinking to get back to his Chawl, he suddenly got an instruction to take a passenger from Airport to Poone. He reached Poone at 3 AM in the night. Slept in the cab for 2 hours. Reached his Poone office at 6 and was told about me to be taken to Mumbai at 11 AM. slept for 3 hours in the office and was now taking me back,. We reached Mumbai at around 4 PM. He would have reported to the office by 5.30 PM and then the decision about his further work would be intimated to him.

                    The story of the first driver was no different. He was also awake for some 24 hours. And they get a princely sum of Rs. 6000 per month for all this work. In this money, they save a part for their family back home. And if they fall ill and are absent for more than 4 days in a month they don’t get salary for those days. If they are seek for a month or so, they have to take loan from loan-sharks. And it takes nearly 6 months to pay them back. This process goes on forever till the time their life’s journey ends- either through an accelerated natural death or through some violence erupting out of Insider-outsider issue.

                    Amitabh Thakur
                    IPS,
                    Currently at IIM Lucknow
                    # 94155-34526




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