Re: How can two of my firends join the discussion list?
2007-05-05 10:12:43 GMT
Hi Mahabir, I they are intrested they can subscribe to the list on: http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss If they like to write something in the Ghana Wiki, they can register at: http://www.wsfiiafrica2007.org If they happen to have no internet connection or are unable to type english maybe you help them. Thanks Freddy On 5/5/07, mahabir <at> himanchal.org <mahabir <at> himanchal.org> wrote: > Hello; > > I have two friends interested to join the discussion list. One of them is > also interested to join the Ghana Conference. Please let me know. > > Mahabir > > > _______________________________________________ > wsfii-discuss mailing list > wsfii-discuss <at> lists.okfn.org > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss > -- -- www.magip.net(Continue reading)
Re: How can two of my firends join the discussion list?
2007-05-05 10:37:49 GMT
Hello; Thanks Fred. They are Americans and they will do it. Mahabir > Hi Mahabir, > I they are intrested they can subscribe to the list on: > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss > > If they like to write something in the Ghana Wiki, they can register at: > http://www.wsfiiafrica2007.org > > If they happen to have no internet connection or are unable to type > english maybe you help them. > > Thanks Freddy > > > On 5/5/07, mahabir <at> himanchal.org <mahabir <at> himanchal.org> wrote: >> Hello; >> >> I have two friends interested to join the discussion list. One of them >> is >> also interested to join the Ghana Conference. Please let me know. >> >> Mahabir >> >> >> _______________________________________________(Continue reading)
RE: How can two of my firends join the discussion list?
2007-05-05 21:40:59 GMT
Mahabir, If your friends need any help getting signed up please have them contact one of us. It would be great if your friends could introduce themselves to us as a first step. Then we can consider what possible role they could play in moving our work forward in Ghana. Thanks. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: wsfii-discuss-bounces <at> lists.okfn.org [mailto:wsfii-discuss-bounces <at> lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of mahabir <at> himanchal.org Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2007 3:38 AM To: Discuss list on the World Summit on Free Information Infrastructure Subject: Re: [wsfii-discuss] How can two of my firends join the discussion list? Hello; Thanks Fred. They are Americans and they will do it. Mahabir > Hi Mahabir, > I they are intrested they can subscribe to the list on:(Continue reading)
RE: VOIP in Ghana
2007-05-06 00:19:55 GMT
Sebastian, Roland My thought would be that this would be a key summit item to discuss. Could either of you add this to the wsfii.africa.2007 wiki? We also need to begin to consider the program and what we are going to want to discuss during the summit. Any further ideas on this? Jeff -----Original Message----- From: wsfii-discuss-bounces <at> lists.okfn.org [mailto:wsfii-discuss-bounces <at> lists.okfn.org] On Behalf Of sebastian Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:44 PM To: Discuss list on the World Summit on Free Information Infrastructure Subject: Re: [wsfii-discuss] VOIP in Ghana dear all, i m hoping to be there too and would of course support work on VoIP/Asterisk/... as best i can - roland wrote: > Hi All > That would be great really if you setup something on Asterisk/VoIP + > Wireless. I am especially interested in setting up Openwrt on routers > for VoIP supports. > Please if there is any e-book or link you can send me to read more > baour setting up asterisk PBX and all, it would be great because I am(Continue reading)
May 19 DC Community Wireless Panel on Economics of Community Wireless Networks in Developing Countries
2007-05-15 15:13:24 GMT
Following up on the Economics of Community Wireless Discussion that started in March from the Discussion by Lindsey Annison, Ashish Saboo, Ian Howard, me Tracy Lauriault and others, we were able to organize a panel discussion on this issues at the Community Wireless Summit on May 19 in DC (Columbia Maryland Loyola U). The title of the panel is the "Economics of Community Wireless Networks in Developing Countries."
Overview: The Economic Sustainability of Community Wireless Networks in Emerging Markets will be a major theme at the WSFII Africa 2007 Summit www.wirelessafrica2007.org in August. As a precursor to this event, oneVillage Foundation and several other distinguished ICT leaders will hold a panel on this topic at the upcoming "International Summit for Community Wireless Networks" on May 18-20 in Washington DC http://www.cuwin.net/summit.
Participants (More about them in the attached document: econ_of_comm_wireless_nets_051407.doc): Panel will feature several well known leaders in the ICT field, including Ian Howard former GeekCorps Mali Director and author of Wireless Networking for the Developing World, Jeff Buderer Program Development Manager of oneVillage Foundation; Toby Morning of Accton Technology Group; Peter Baldwin of the Digital Opportunity Trust an ex-GeekCorps Mali Volunteer Economics Advisor.
- Overview for the Panel in terms of what it is going to discuss (
econ_of_comm_wireless_nets_051407.doc)
- Some of my thoughts on what I would like to discuss (Panel Prep Discussion.doc).
Ugo Vallauri of Computer Aid has been very helpful in forwarding this discussion and linking me to key people to move this discussion forward. He introduced me to LinkNet which is aimed at promoting holistic rural development in Rural Zambia. I have included Adrian and Gerthan in this email. This is along similar lines that we have outlined with our Open Digital Village concept that we are now trying to implement in Winneba Ghana.
Xigi.net Gary Bolles of Xigi.net was unable to resolve his scheduling conflict with the other conference he was participating but we had some good telephone conversations last week and he is very interested in what is developing. Gary points out the need to breaks thing down into layers such as the policy layer etc. his organization www.xigi.net helps to explore power relationships that lead to the development of emergent economic sectors (such as for example wireless) and make them transparent, putting capital to work to promote social good. Xigi.net is a collective intelligence tool that can be used to help document the power relationships involved in the development emergent economic sectors (like wireless) and make them more transparent. He sees Muni-Wireless (which he is also involved in) as helping to adapt this process to the development public broadband wireless market in the US. Gary has been involved in developing a framework for the development of a Digital Village Fund, seeing that as a platform to promote entreprenuerialism in the social enterprise sector and focused on the convergence of the wireless and digital village/telecenter sectors. My understanding from the calls was that right now he feels that these events and dialogues are important because they pave the way for developing that fund on a firm foundation. Finally Good Capital is an investment firm that he is involved with that is designed accelerate "the flow of capital to innovative ventures and initiatives that harness the power of the market to create sustainable solutions to some of society's most challenging problems. Our initiatives and funds address a wide range of social issues ranging from social enterprise financing, community and economic development, brownfield development, and healthcare financing."
Grassroots Wireless in India Ashish Saboo of the Association of Public ICT Access Provider (ApiAp) - I am reading and particularly interested with some of Ashish's comments. He says the telecenter model needs to be flexible to the needs of each neighborhood/community. So then possibility organizations taking rigid of a template approach were not able to see the expected success because of that rigidity which may have stifled things so that the local early adopters of ICT did not take ownership of these projects leading eventually to their failure? So its very important to have local stakeholders involved and understand the local culture in developing these programs.
We need better tools to measure and connect economic value with social value. Ashish feels that we need to come up with better matrix linking tools - tools helping to link and model outcomes of programs with consideration to social as well as economic factors - to measure the social benefits of these project and also to how that often translates into added economic value for the community as well as the center itself.
There are many publications on the launch of telecenters but few offer honest reporting of the challenges so accountability and transparency is an issue that needs to be improved. He suggests there is a need to develop an online resource that could serve as center for such resources.
Tools for ensuring Accountability I wanted to add Kris Dev to this (Chennai India) has been working on how to develop ICT tools to improve accountability and transparency
Ashish I am reading your email about how you see the need to address the unsophisticated ICT consumer in emerging markets and where you give Dharamsala as one example of a dysfunctional pattern emerging in emerging markets where by some of the poorest regions of the world now spend extremely disproportionate amounts of their very meager funds on ICT. So this makes me think that this panel should also discuss more fundamental problems with the launch of ICT in emerging markets and how community wireless networks can be effectively positioned to address this problem. I would to see more about this that is more refined that we could discuss and feature in the panel discussion.
Juergen Neumann Founder of Friefunk suggested that this Barcelona event (could not find weblink on this so if anyone could send it that would be great) being organized by Ramon Roca of guifi.net would be a good venue to continue our work about community compatible economics. I look forward to hear more from him about this although most likely I will not be able to attend. Possibly some of you can make and keep us updated.
I look forward to further discussion on this and thanks all for the contributions made so far.
Jeff
Jeff Buderer
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Re: May 19 DC Community Wireless Panel on Economics of Community Wireless Networks in Developing Countries
2007-05-15 22:11:10 GMT
Hi Jeff, regarding the event at guifi.net, the link is this one: http://guifi.net/node/7698, but still not in English and just at a draft stage. I'm not in the core group who is organizing the meeting, but I know that there is a lot of stuff to do. As soon as we have more concrete information we'll forward this. Regarding event in Columbia, I'll be there, so I hope to have a chance to meet all of you and if you like, share with all of you regarding our approach to the subject. I think I can also talk a little bit on the Athens experience (awmn.net) which I find also quite interesting and I know a little bit, although no one from there will be in Columbia. Ramon Roca. En/na Jeff Buderer ha escrit: > Dear All, > > Following up on the Economics of Community Wireless Discussion that > started in March from the Discussion by Lindsey Annison > <http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/wsfii-discuss/2007-March/001260.html>, > Ashish Saboo > <http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/wsfii-discuss/2007-April/001292.html>, > Ian Howard > <http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/wsfii-discuss/2007-March/001271.html>, > me Tracy Lauriault > <http://lists.okfn.org/pipermail/wsfii-discuss/2007-March/001273.html> > and others, we were able to organize a panel discussion on this issues > at the Community Wireless Summit on May 19 in DC (Columbia Maryland > Loyola U). The title of the panel is the "Economics of Community > Wireless Networks in Developing Countries." > > *Overview: *The Economic Sustainability of Community Wireless Networks > in Emerging Markets will be a major theme at the WSFII Africa 2007 > Summit _www.wirelessafrica2007.org > <http://www.wirelessafrica2007.org/>_ in August. As a precursor to > this event, _oneVillage Foundation > <http://www.onevillagefoundation.org/>_ and several other > distinguished ICT leaders will hold a panel on this topic at the > upcoming "International Summit for Community Wireless Networks" on May > 18-20 in Washington DC _http://www.cuwin.net/summit_. > > Participants (More about them in the attached document: > *econ_of_comm_wireless_nets_051407.doc*): Panel will feature several > well known leaders in the ICT field, including Ian Howard former > GeekCorps Mali Director and author of _Wireless Networking for the > Developing World > <http://www.geekcorps.org/2006/01/learn-wireless-networking/>_, Jeff > Buderer Program Development Manager of _oneVillage Foundation > <http://www.onevillagefoundation.org/>_; Toby Morning of _Accton > Technology Group <http://www.accton.com/>_; Peter Baldwin of the > _Digital Opportunity Trust <http://www.dotrust.org/>_ an ex-GeekCorps > Mali Volunteer Economics Advisor. > > > To further explain this are two documents that I have attached: > > 1. Overview for the Panel in terms of what it is going to discuss ( > *econ_of_comm_wireless_nets_051407.doc*) > 2. Some of my thoughts on what I would like to discuss (*Panel Prep > Discussion.doc*). > > *Repesentation From Emerging Markets is Important *I would have liked > it if we could have gotten someone from a emerging market to > participate in the panel. However since that is not the case I want to > be sure that in our discussions on the panel that we represent some of > the ideas by those who are in emerging markets of which I believe > Ashish Saboo's comments are particularly valuable in this process. > > Ugo Vallauri of Computer Aid has been very helpful in forwarding this > discussion and linking me to key people to move this discussion > forward. He introduced me to LinkNet > <http://drupal.vanstam.net/?qnode/712> which is aimed at promoting > holistic rural development in Rural Zambia. I have included Adrian and > Gerthan in this email. This is along similar lines that we have > outlined with our Open Digital Village concept that we are now trying > to implement in Winneba Ghana. > > Xigi.net Gary Bolles <http://www.gbolles.com/gbbio.htm>of Xigi.net > <http://xigi.net/> was unable to resolve his scheduling conflict with > the other conference he was participating but we had some good > telephone conversations last week and he is very interested in what is > developing. Gary points out the need to breaks thing down into layers > such as the policy layer etc. his organization www.xigi.net > <http://www.xigi.net/> helps to explore power relationships that lead > to the development of emergent economic sectors (such as for example > wireless) and make them transparent, putting capital to work to > promote social good. Xigi.net is a collective intelligence tool that > can be used to help document the power relationships involved in the > development emergent economic sectors (like wireless) and make them > more transparent. He sees Muni-Wireless <http://www.muniwireless.com/> > (which he is also involved in) as helping to adapt this process to the > development public broadband wireless market in the US. Gary has been > involved in developing a framework for the development of a Digital > Village Fund <http://www.xigi.net/index.php?en=585>, seeing that as a > platform to promote entreprenuerialism in the social enterprise sector > and focused on the convergence of the wireless and digital > village/telecenter sectors. My understanding from the calls was that > right now he feels that these events and dialogues are important > because they pave the way for developing that fund on a firm > foundation. Finally Good Capital <http://www.goodcap.net/> is an > investment firm that he is involved with that is designed accelerate > "the flow of capital to innovative ventures and initiatives that > harness the power of the market to create sustainable solutions to > some of society's most challenging problems. Our initiatives and funds > address a wide range of social issues ranging from social enterprise > financing, community and economic development, brownfield development, > and healthcare financing." > > *Grassroots Wireless in India *Ashish Saboo of the Association of > Public ICT Access Provider (ApiAp) <http://apiap.org/> - I am reading > and particularly interested with some of Ashish's comments. He says > the telecenter model needs to be flexible to the needs of each > neighborhood/community. So then possibility organizations taking rigid > of a template approach were not able to see the expected success > because of that rigidity which may have stifled things so that the > local early adopters of ICT did not take ownership of these projects > leading eventually to their failure? So its very important to have > local stakeholders involved and understand the local culture in > developing these programs. > > We need better tools to measure and connect economic value with social > value. Ashish feels that we need to come up with better matrix linking > tools - tools helping to link and model outcomes of programs with > consideration to social as well as economic factors - to measure the > social benefits of these project and also to how that often translates > into added economic value for the community as well as the center itself. > > There are many publications on the launch of telecenters but few offer > honest reporting of the challenges so accountability and transparency > is an issue that needs to be improved. He suggests there is a need to > develop an online resource that could serve as center for such resources. > > Tools for ensuring Accountability I wanted to add Kris Dev to this > (Chennai India) has been working on how to develop ICT tools > <http://blog.onevillage.tv/wp/?p=339> to improve accountability and > transparency > > Ashish I am reading your email about how you see the need to address > the unsophisticated ICT consumer in emerging markets and where you > give Dharamsala as one example of a dysfunctional pattern emerging in > emerging markets where by some of the poorest regions of the world now > spend extremely disproportionate amounts of their very meager funds on > ICT. So this makes me think that this panel should also discuss more > fundamental problems with the launch of ICT in emerging markets and > how community wireless networks can be effectively positioned to > address this problem. I would to see more about this that is more > refined that we could discuss and feature in the panel discussion. > > Juergen Neumann Founder of Friefunk > <https://snr.freifunk.net/trac/wcw> suggested that this Barcelona > event (could not find weblink on this so if anyone could send it that > would be great) being organized by Ramon Roca of guifi.net > <http://guifi.net/en> would be a good venue to continue our work about > community compatible economics. I look forward to hear more from him > about this although most likely I will not be able to attend. Possibly > some of you can make and keep us updated. > > I look forward to further discussion on this and thanks all for the > contributions made so far. > > Jeff > > > > Jeff Buderer > oneVillage Foundation > www.onevillagefoundation.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >wsfii-discuss mailing list >wsfii-discuss <at> lists.okfn.org >http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss > >
TV documentary
2007-05-16 11:12:13 GMT
hi all, i have found a small TV production which wants to portrait the community wireless globally, but with a focus on certain aspects and regions, as they say for the funding of this project it needs an exciting header and pictures which have some kind of entertaining qualitity. dont get me (them) wrong, they are not this "sell out" type of journalists, but realistic enough to know what is working as a TV documentary. In fact they are human rights activists as well (Sabine Schreiber, Gerd Fittkau, Berlin). so here are the questions: Does anybody have personal contacts to wireless community networks in south america? and then also: What places would u suggest for a shooting regarding to the need of entertaining pictures like "WIFI community in the jungle, favela/slum ... "? ... to avoid misunderstandings: the production is not confirmed. We are working on a sustaining concept and still dont have the funds to proceed ... grts, marco (berlin)
Re: TV documentary
2007-05-16 11:45:18 GMT
Hi Marco, If you want info about projects in South America, talk to Sylvia Cadena with WiLAC, coordinacion at wilac dot net. Ian marco wrote: > hi all, > > i have found a small TV production which wants to portrait the community > wireless globally, but with a focus on certain aspects and regions, as > they say for the funding of this project it needs an exciting header and > pictures which have some kind of entertaining qualitity. dont get me > (them) wrong, they are not this "sell out" type of journalists, but > realistic enough to know what is working as a TV documentary. In fact > they are human rights activists as well (Sabine Schreiber, Gerd Fittkau, > Berlin). > > so here are the questions: Does anybody have personal contacts to > wireless community networks in south america? and then also: What places > would u suggest for a shooting regarding to the need of entertaining > pictures like "WIFI community in the jungle, favela/slum ... "? > > ... to avoid misunderstandings: the production is not confirmed. We are > working on a sustaining concept and still dont have the funds to > proceed ... > > grts, marco (berlin) > > _______________________________________________ > wsfii-discuss mailing list > wsfii-discuss <at> lists.okfn.org > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss > > !DSPAM:1,464ae6ac29646753418338! > > >
Re: TV documentary
2007-05-16 13:28:02 GMT
In colombia directly contact the community via info <at> altred.net (bogota, medellin)
/alejo
Hi Marco,
If you want info about projects in South America, talk to Sylvia Cadena
with WiLAC, coordinacion at wilac dot net.
Ian
marco wrote:
> hi all,
>
> i have found a small TV production which wants to portrait the community
> wireless globally, but with a focus on certain aspects and regions, as
> they say for the funding of this project it needs an exciting header and
> pictures which have some kind of entertaining qualitity. dont get me
> (them) wrong, they are not this "sell out" type of journalists, but
> realistic enough to know what is working as a TV documentary. In fact
> they are human rights activists as well (Sabine Schreiber, Gerd Fittkau,
> Berlin).
>
> so here are the questions: Does anybody have personal contacts to
> wireless community networks in south america? and then also: What places
> would u suggest for a shooting regarding to the need of entertaining
> pictures like "WIFI community in the jungle, favela/slum ... "?
>
> ... to avoid misunderstandings: the production is not confirmed. We are
> working on a sustaining concept and still dont have the funds to
> proceed ...
>
> grts, marco (berlin)
>
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