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Zviad Sulaberidze | 1 Aug 2006 09:37
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Re: Could you please tell if VoIP is free also in those countries?

You pay for license to conduct telephone service, this is about 700 Euros, and you have to purchase phone number pool additionally (about 1000 Euros for 2000 numbers), also you have to care about interconnectivity between other phone stations and interregional switch, in order to have terminations to other local phone numbers in the town and country. So, your service works as a regular phone line, with full incoming and outgoing calls. As for prices, mostly all VoIP providers here have the same prices as conventional phone companies.

This service mostly is used as an additional phone line by them who has Internet connectivity and not broadly used by masses (with Inet connectivity)

Best,
Zviad

Mahabir Pun wrote:
Hello; Thanks for the information. How much do you have to pay for telephone numbers pool? If you get a pool number, can somebody from outside call your number? Is it cheaper than using the conventional telephone services? Thanks. Mahabir
Mahabir, In Georgia, this is former Soviet Union Rebublic, 2.4 Ghz if unlicensed and VoIP is also free, only license you have to obtain is for telephone numbers pool, if you want to make a commercial service. Regards, Zviad Mahabir Pun wrote:
Hello All; Today I got letter from Nepal Telecom promising to provide 20 telephone lines in Pokhara for our project. It is the city where we have base station for the network. We will connect those telephone lines to our Wireless network and provide telephone services to the villages in remote areas. I know that the telephone calls will take some bandwidth of the network, but I am sure that it still will be good enough for Internet connection and for other purposes. If the network gets slower, we will put better radios for the backbone. Now we have Canopies BH-20 for the backbone. Right now, VoIP is illegal in Nepal. Therefore I am also lobbying to make VoIP calls free. It is because our project uses VoIP for live tele-teaching and telemedicine purpose. We also use VoIP to connect the call from the remote villages to landlines of Nepal Telecom to make calls outside the network. Could you please tell me if VoIP call is free in those countries where 2.4 GHz and 5.7 GHz bands are license free? If the government in some of the countries have made it illegal to use, why is that. The reason I am asking is because I want to present the government the list of the countries where is is free. Thanks. Mahabir
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Mahabir Pun | 4 Aug 2006 06:26

Is ISM band 5.725 to 5.8 50 GHz free in India?

Hello Hitesh;

I am going to have a meeting with top level government officials, who
regulate the bands. Is ISM band 5.725 to 5.850 GHz band free in India. I
am tryig to make this band free too. Please let me
know.

Mahabir
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Vickram Crishna | 4 Aug 2006 06:54
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Re: Is ISM band 5.725 to 5.8 50 GHz free in India?

Mahabir Pun wrote:
> I am going to have a meeting with top level government officials, who
> regulate the bands. Is ISM band 5.725 to 5.850 GHz band free in India. I
> am tryig to make this band free too. Please let me
> know.
>   

Mahabir

The band around 5.1 GHz (not 5.725-5.850 GHz) is free to use indoors and 
licensing for specific outdoor use is said to be trivial to obtain - one 
hears that the WPC (who administers bandwidth in India) is waiting for 
public demand before opening up the band to free use.

Of course, the fact that commercially interesting WiMax uses a similar 
band could play some role, with so much money to throw around, as in the 
case of the GSM and CDMA bands <folding hands with saintly expression>. 
Trials have already begun, and I hope that we will get access to the 
results. Interestingly, one location set up for intensive testing 
comprises 400 sq km around Pune, on the western edge of the Deccan 
plateau, which is currently experiencing the heaviest rainfall in 99 
years. The robustness of the hybrid network (WiMax plus WiFi) should be 
useful for future reference, a good learning experience.

---
Vickram
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Fred Pook | 4 Aug 2006 15:19
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Re: Is ISM band 5.725 to 5.8 50 GHz free in India?

Hi Mahabir,
There is some confusion in the earlier Indian government
documentations as to what frequencies are de-licensed, but lately I
find more and more mentioned:
5.15 - 5.35 GHz & 5.725 - 5.875 GHz that would follow the US/Canada policy.
The following is from:
http://www.dot.gov.in/finstatus/PERFORMANCE_BUDGET_2005-06.pdf

"To encourage expansion of broadband connectivity at a faster pace, both
outdoor and indoor usage of low power Wi-fi and WiMax systems in 2.4 GHz–
2.4835 GHz band has been delicensed. The use of low power indoor systems in
5.15 - 5.35 GHz & 5.725 - 5.875 GHz has also been delicensed."

These are the specs you will find in 802.11a equipment:
1). US/Canada:12 non-overlapping channels (5.15 ~ 5.35GHz, 5.725 ~ 5.825GHz)
2). Europe: 19 non-overlapping channel (5.15 ~ 5.35GHz, 5.47 ~ 5.725GHz)
3). Japan: 4 non-overlapping channels (5.15 ~ 5.25GHz)
4). China : 5 non-overlapping channels (5.725 ~ 5.85GHz)

And the following is the Response of ISPAI (Internet Service Providers
Association of India) on on the recent Consultation Paper No. 9 of the
Telecom Regulatory authority Of India. ISPAI has been lobbying for
Open Spectrum for years in India. The response shows deep insights in
to the future of wireless broadband as well, recommended reading for
all of us worldwide:
http://www.trai.gov.in/trai/upload/misc/20/ISPAI.pdf

"The government has already de-licensed indoor as well as outdoor
usage in the 2.4 – 2.4835 GHz band (paving way for growth of
technologies like 802.11b/g and Bluetooth, inter alia). Similarly,
5.150-5.350 GHz & 5.725-5.825 GHz bands have been de-licensed for
indoor / in-campus usage paving the way for deployment of technologies
like 802.11a and RLAN, etc. Authority's recommendations in this regard
have been seminal and we hope that the government would de-license the
outdoor usage in the 5.150-5.350 GHz & 5.725 – 5.825 GHz as well, as
reiterated by the Authority from time to time."

I hope this will help you in your efforts in Nepal,
Thanks, Fred

On 8/4/06, Vickram Crishna <vvcrishna <at> radiophony.com> wrote:
> Mahabir Pun wrote:
> > I am going to have a meeting with top level government officials, who
> > regulate the bands. Is ISM band 5.725 to 5.850 GHz band free in India. I
> > am tryig to make this band free too. Please let me
> > know.
> >
>
> Mahabir
>
> The band around 5.1 GHz (not 5.725-5.850 GHz) is free to use indoors and
> licensing for specific outdoor use is said to be trivial to obtain - one
> hears that the WPC (who administers bandwidth in India) is waiting for
> public demand before opening up the band to free use.
>
> Of course, the fact that commercially interesting WiMax uses a similar
> band could play some role, with so much money to throw around, as in the
> case of the GSM and CDMA bands <folding hands with saintly expression>.
> Trials have already begun, and I hope that we will get access to the
> results. Interestingly, one location set up for intensive testing
> comprises 400 sq km around Pune, on the western edge of the Deccan
> plateau, which is currently experiencing the heaviest rainfall in 99
> years. The robustness of the hybrid network (WiMax plus WiFi) should be
> useful for future reference, a good learning experience.
>
> ---
> Vickram
>
> _______________________________________________
> wsfii-discuss mailing list
> wsfii-discuss <at> lists.okfn.org
> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss
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Mahabir Pun | 4 Aug 2006 16:37

Thanks/ Is ISM band 5.725 to 5.8 50 GHz free in India?

Hello Fred and Vicram;

Thank you very much for the information on the bands. I appreciate it very
much. I will keep fighting to make de-license them.

Mahabir

> Hi Mahabir,
> There is some confusion in the earlier Indian government
> documentations as to what frequencies are de-licensed, but lately I
> find more and more mentioned:
> 5.15 - 5.35 GHz & 5.725 - 5.875 GHz that would follow the US/Canada
> policy.
> The following is from:
> http://www.dot.gov.in/finstatus/PERFORMANCE_BUDGET_2005-06.pdf
>
> "To encourage expansion of broadband connectivity at a faster pace, both
> outdoor and indoor usage of low power Wi-fi and WiMax systems in 2.4 GHz–
> 2.4835 GHz band has been delicensed. The use of low power indoor systems
> in
> 5.15 - 5.35 GHz & 5.725 - 5.875 GHz has also been delicensed."
>
> These are the specs you will find in 802.11a equipment:
> 1). US/Canada:12 non-overlapping channels (5.15 ~ 5.35GHz, 5.725 ~
> 5.825GHz)
> 2). Europe: 19 non-overlapping channel (5.15 ~ 5.35GHz, 5.47 ~ 5.725GHz)
> 3). Japan: 4 non-overlapping channels (5.15 ~ 5.25GHz)
> 4). China : 5 non-overlapping channels (5.725 ~ 5.85GHz)
>
> And the following is the Response of ISPAI (Internet Service Providers
> Association of India) on on the recent Consultation Paper No. 9 of the
> Telecom Regulatory authority Of India. ISPAI has been lobbying for
> Open Spectrum for years in India. The response shows deep insights in
> to the future of wireless broadband as well, recommended reading for
> all of us worldwide:
> http://www.trai.gov.in/trai/upload/misc/20/ISPAI.pdf
>
> "The government has already de-licensed indoor as well as outdoor
> usage in the 2.4 – 2.4835 GHz band (paving way for growth of
> technologies like 802.11b/g and Bluetooth, inter alia). Similarly,
> 5.150-5.350 GHz & 5.725-5.825 GHz bands have been de-licensed for
> indoor / in-campus usage paving the way for deployment of technologies
> like 802.11a and RLAN, etc. Authority's recommendations in this regard
> have been seminal and we hope that the government would de-license the
> outdoor usage in the 5.150-5.350 GHz & 5.725 – 5.825 GHz as well, as
> reiterated by the Authority from time to time."
>
> I hope this will help you in your efforts in Nepal,
> Thanks, Fred
>
>
>
> On 8/4/06, Vickram Crishna <vvcrishna <at> radiophony.com> wrote:
>> Mahabir Pun wrote:
>> > I am going to have a meeting with top level government officials, who
>> > regulate the bands. Is ISM band 5.725 to 5.850 GHz band free in India.
>> I
>> > am tryig to make this band free too. Please let me
>> > know.
>> >
>>
>> Mahabir
>>
>> The band around 5.1 GHz (not 5.725-5.850 GHz) is free to use indoors and
>> licensing for specific outdoor use is said to be trivial to obtain - one
>> hears that the WPC (who administers bandwidth in India) is waiting for
>> public demand before opening up the band to free use.
>>
>> Of course, the fact that commercially interesting WiMax uses a similar
>> band could play some role, with so much money to throw around, as in the
>> case of the GSM and CDMA bands <folding hands with saintly expression>.
>> Trials have already begun, and I hope that we will get access to the
>> results. Interestingly, one location set up for intensive testing
>> comprises 400 sq km around Pune, on the western edge of the Deccan
>> plateau, which is currently experiencing the heaviest rainfall in 99
>> years. The robustness of the hybrid network (WiMax plus WiFi) should be
>> useful for future reference, a good learning experience.
>>
>> ---
>> Vickram
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> wsfii-discuss mailing list
>> wsfii-discuss <at> lists.okfn.org
>> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss
>>
>
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Hitesh Shetty | 4 Aug 2006 19:02
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Re: Is ISM band 5.725 to 5.8 50 GHz free in India?

Hi Mahabir,
I have little to contribute to what Fred and Vikram have already said .
However in addition I would also like to add that the 5.7
GHz spectrum for outdoor use is not delicensed.
It can be used but only for indoor  use.
The license for 5.7 GHz for outdoor use costs a lot of
money running into lakhs of Indian rupees.
Many ISP's are linking their remote sites wirelessly by
using
Properietary systems like Canopy , by Motorola.
It uses OFDM and gives very accepted performance even
in harsh weather conditions.
Canopy still uses 2.4 GHz but needs tweaking for
integration with traditional 802.11 b/g n/w, maybe you
could consider this for use , since its a better alternative
for long distance , effective wireless links without
interference from other devices using the 2.4 GHz ISM
band.
 
I hope you find the information useful.
 
Regards
Hitesh Shetty
 


 
On 8/4/06, Fred Pook <fredpook <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mahabir,
There is some confusion in the earlier Indian government
documentations as to what frequencies are de-licensed, but lately I
find more and more mentioned:
5.15 - 5.35 GHz & 5.725 - 5.875 GHz that would follow the US/Canada policy.
The following is from:
http://www.dot.gov.in/finstatus/PERFORMANCE_BUDGET_2005-06.pdf

"To encourage expansion of broadband connectivity at a faster pace, both
outdoor and indoor usage of low power Wi-fi and WiMax systems in 2.4 GHz–
2.4835 GHz band has been delicensed. The use of low power indoor systems in
5.15 - 5.35 GHz & 5.725 - 5.875 GHz has also been delicensed."

These are the specs you will find in 802.11a equipment:
1). US/Canada:12 non-overlapping channels (5.15 ~ 5.35GHz, 5.725 ~ 5.825GHz)
2). Europe: 19 non-overlapping channel (5.15 ~ 5.35GHz, 5.47 ~ 5.725GHz)
3). Japan: 4 non-overlapping channels (5.15 ~ 5.25GHz)
4). China : 5 non-overlapping channels (5.725 ~ 5.85GHz)

And the following is the Response of ISPAI (Internet Service Providers
Association of India) on on the recent Consultation Paper No. 9 of the
Telecom Regulatory authority Of India. ISPAI has been lobbying for
Open Spectrum for years in India. The response shows deep insights in
to the future of wireless broadband as well, recommended reading for
all of us worldwide:
http://www.trai.gov.in/trai/upload/misc/20/ISPAI.pdf

"The government has already de-licensed indoor as well as outdoor
usage in the 2.4 – 2.4835 GHz band (paving way for growth of
technologies like 802.11b/g and Bluetooth, inter alia). Similarly,
5.150-5.350 GHz & 5.725-5.825 GHz bands have been de-licensed for
indoor / in-campus usage paving the way for deployment of technologies
like 802.11a and RLAN, etc. Authority's recommendations in this regard
have been seminal and we hope that the government would de-license the
outdoor usage in the 5.150-5.350 GHz & 5.725 – 5.825 GHz as well, as
reiterated by the Authority from time to time."

I hope this will help you in your efforts in Nepal,
Thanks, Fred



On 8/4/06, Vickram Crishna <vvcrishna <at> radiophony.com> wrote:
> Mahabir Pun wrote:
> > I am going to have a meeting with top level government officials, who
> > regulate the bands. Is ISM band 5.725 to 5.850 GHz band free in India. I
> > am tryig to make this band free too. Please let me
> > know.
> >
>
> Mahabir
>
> The band around 5.1 GHz (not 5.725-5.850 GHz) is free to use indoors and
> licensing for specific outdoor use is said to be trivial to obtain - one
> hears that the WPC (who administers bandwidth in India) is waiting for
> public demand before opening up the band to free use.
>
> Of course, the fact that commercially interesting WiMax uses a similar
> band could play some role, with so much money to throw around, as in the
> case of the GSM and CDMA bands <folding hands with saintly expression>.
> Trials have already begun, and I hope that we will get access to the
> results. Interestingly, one location set up for intensive testing
> comprises 400 sq km around Pune, on the western edge of the Deccan
> plateau, which is currently experiencing the heaviest rainfall in 99
> years. The robustness of the hybrid network (WiMax plus WiFi) should be
> useful for future reference, a good learning experience.
>
> ---
> Vickram
>
> _______________________________________________
> wsfii-discuss mailing list
> wsfii-discuss <at> lists.okfn.org
> http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss
>

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Mahabir Pun | 5 Aug 2006 06:00

Re: Why is 5.725 to 5.8 50 GHz not delicensed for outdoor use?

Hello Hitesh;

Thanks for the information.

I am doing progress slowly and I am in the right track so far. I hope the
government will dilicense it.

Could you tell as why 5.7 - 5.8 GHz was delicensed only for indoor use?
Does it create interferences if it is used outdoors?

We have used Canopy BH-20 in our network for the backbone. After hat we
are usig 2.4 GHz to distribute to the end-users.

Thanks.

Mahabir

> Hi Mahabir,
> I have little to contribute to what Fred and Vikram have already said .
> However in addition I would also like to add that the 5.7
> GHz spectrum for outdoor use is not delicensed.
> It can be used but only for indoor  use.
> The license for 5.7 GHz for outdoor use costs a lot of
> money running into lakhs of Indian rupees.
> Many ISP's are linking their remote sites wirelessly by
> using
> Properietary systems like Canopy , by Motorola.
> It uses OFDM and gives very accepted performance even
> in harsh weather conditions.
> Canopy still uses 2.4 GHz but needs tweaking for
> integration with traditional 802.11 b/g n/w, maybe you
> could consider this for use , since its a better alternative
> for long distance , effective wireless links without
> interference from other devices using the 2.4 GHz ISM
> band.
>
> I hope you find the information useful.
>
> Regards
> Hitesh Shetty
>
>
>
>
> On 8/4/06, Fred Pook <fredpook <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mahabir,
>> There is some confusion in the earlier Indian government
>> documentations as to what frequencies are de-licensed, but lately I
>> find more and more mentioned:
>> 5.15 - 5.35 GHz & 5.725 - 5.875 GHz that would follow the US/Canada
>> policy.
>> The following is from:
>> http://www.dot.gov.in/finstatus/PERFORMANCE_BUDGET_2005-06.pdf
>>
>> "To encourage expansion of broadband connectivity at a faster pace, both
>> outdoor and indoor usage of low power Wi-fi and WiMax systems in 2.4
>> GHz–
>> 2.4835 GHz band has been delicensed. The use of low power indoor systems
>> in
>> 5.15 - 5.35 GHz & 5.725 - 5.875 GHz has also been delicensed."
>>
>> These are the specs you will find in 802.11a equipment:
>> 1). US/Canada:12 non-overlapping channels (5.15 ~ 5.35GHz, 5.725 ~
>> 5.825GHz)
>> 2). Europe: 19 non-overlapping channel (5.15 ~ 5.35GHz, 5.47 ~ 5.725GHz)
>> 3). Japan: 4 non-overlapping channels (5.15 ~ 5.25GHz)
>> 4). China : 5 non-overlapping channels (5.725 ~ 5.85GHz)
>>
>> And the following is the Response of ISPAI (Internet Service Providers
>> Association of India) on on the recent Consultation Paper No. 9 of the
>> Telecom Regulatory authority Of India. ISPAI has been lobbying for
>> Open Spectrum for years in India. The response shows deep insights in
>> to the future of wireless broadband as well, recommended reading for
>> all of us worldwide:
>> http://www.trai.gov.in/trai/upload/misc/20/ISPAI.pdf
>>
>> "The government has already de-licensed indoor as well as outdoor
>> usage in the 2.4 – 2.4835 GHz band (paving way for growth of
>> technologies like 802.11b/g and Bluetooth, inter alia). Similarly,
>> 5.150-5.350 GHz & 5.725-5.825 GHz bands have been de-licensed for
>> indoor / in-campus usage paving the way for deployment of technologies
>> like 802.11a and RLAN, etc. Authority's recommendations in this regard
>> have been seminal and we hope that the government would de-license the
>> outdoor usage in the 5.150-5.350 GHz & 5.725 – 5.825 GHz as well, as
>> reiterated by the Authority from time to time."
>>
>> I hope this will help you in your efforts in Nepal,
>> Thanks, Fred
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/4/06, Vickram Crishna <vvcrishna <at> radiophony.com> wrote:
>> > Mahabir Pun wrote:
>> > > I am going to have a meeting with top level government officials,
>> who
>> > > regulate the bands. Is ISM band 5.725 to 5.850 GHz band free in
>> India.
>> I
>> > > am tryig to make this band free too. Please let me
>> > > know.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Mahabir
>> >
>> > The band around 5.1 GHz (not 5.725-5.850 GHz) is free to use indoors
>> and
>> > licensing for specific outdoor use is said to be trivial to obtain -
>> one
>> > hears that the WPC (who administers bandwidth in India) is waiting for
>> > public demand before opening up the band to free use.
>> >
>> > Of course, the fact that commercially interesting WiMax uses a similar
>> > band could play some role, with so much money to throw around, as in
>> the
>> > case of the GSM and CDMA bands <folding hands with saintly
>> expression>.
>> > Trials have already begun, and I hope that we will get access to the
>> > results. Interestingly, one location set up for intensive testing
>> > comprises 400 sq km around Pune, on the western edge of the Deccan
>> > plateau, which is currently experiencing the heaviest rainfall in 99
>> > years. The robustness of the hybrid network (WiMax plus WiFi) should
>> be
>> > useful for future reference, a good learning experience.
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Vickram
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > wsfii-discuss mailing list
>> > wsfii-discuss <at> lists.okfn.org
>> > http://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/wsfii-discuss
>> >
>>
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Fred Pook | 5 Aug 2006 13:54
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Re: Why is 5.725 to 5.8 50 GHz not delicensed for outdoor use?

Hi Mahabir,
According to the Telecom Regulatory Authority of India
Consultation Paper:
http://www.trai.gov.in/trai/upload/ConsultationPapers/85/Consultation12jun06.pdf

"5.15-5.35 GHz. Presently this band is being used for WiFi
applications on delicensed basis for indoor usage. TRAI has already
recommended in its broadband recommendation for delicensing of this
band for out door usage also along with band 5.725-5.85 GHz. For this
purpose coordination with Department of Space is required so that this
band can be
provisionally delicensed on the basis of non-interference and any possible
interference can be monitored and dealt with even after delicensing."

So that probably means that the Department of Space of India has some
communication equipment in (or near) the 5.725-5.85 GHz maybe
satellite communication.

check also: http://www.geocities.com/dtmcbride/tech/em-spectrum.html
for a short list of the whole EM spectrum

Fred

On 8/5/06, Mahabir Pun <mahabir <at> himanchal.org> wrote:
> Hello Hitesh;
>
> Thanks for the information.
>
> I am doing progress slowly and I am in the right track so far. I hope the
> government will dilicense it.
>
> Could you tell as why 5.7 - 5.8 GHz was delicensed only for indoor use?
> Does it create interferences if it is used outdoors?
>
> We have used Canopy BH-20 in our network for the backbone. After hat we
> are usig 2.4 GHz to distribute to the end-users.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mahabir
>
>
> > Hi Mahabir,
> > I have little to contribute to what Fred and Vikram have already said .
> > However in addition I would also like to add that the 5.7
> > GHz spectrum for outdoor use is not delicensed.
> > It can be used but only for indoor  use.
> > The license for 5.7 GHz for outdoor use costs a lot of
> > money running into lakhs of Indian rupees.
> > Many ISP's are linking their remote sites wirelessly by
> > using
> > Properietary systems like Canopy , by Motorola.
> > It uses OFDM and gives very accepted performance even
> > in harsh weather conditions.
> > Canopy still uses 2.4 GHz but needs tweaking for
> > integration with traditional 802.11 b/g n/w, maybe you
> > could consider this for use , since its a better alternative
> > for long distance , effective wireless links without
> > interference from other devices using the 2.4 GHz ISM
> > band.
> >
> > I hope you find the information useful.
> >
> > Regards
> > Hitesh Shetty
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/4/06, Fred Pook <fredpook <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Mahabir,
> >> There is some confusion in the earlier Indian government
> >> documentations as to what frequencies are de-licensed, but lately I
> >> find more and more mentioned:
> >> 5.15 - 5.35 GHz & 5.725 - 5.875 GHz that would follow the US/Canada
> >> policy.
> >> The following is from:
> >> http://www.dot.gov.in/finstatus/PERFORMANCE_BUDGET_2005-06.pdf
> >>
> >> "To encourage expansion of broadband connectivity at a faster pace, both
> >> outdoor and indoor usage of low power Wi-fi and WiMax systems in 2.4
> >> GHz–
> >> 2.4835 GHz band has been delicensed. The use of low power indoor systems
> >> in
> >> 5.15 - 5.35 GHz & 5.725 - 5.875 GHz has also been delicensed."
> >>
> >> These are the specs you will find in 802.11a equipment:
> >> 1). US/Canada:12 non-overlapping channels (5.15 ~ 5.35GHz, 5.725 ~
> >> 5.825GHz)
> >> 2). Europe: 19 non-overlapping channel (5.15 ~ 5.35GHz, 5.47 ~ 5.725GHz)
> >> 3). Japan: 4 non-overlapping channels (5.15 ~ 5.25GHz)
> >> 4). China : 5 non-overlapping channels (5.725 ~ 5.85GHz)
> >>
> >> And the following is the Response of ISPAI (Internet Service Providers
> >> Association of India) on on the recent Consultation Paper No. 9 of the
> >> Telecom Regulatory authority Of India. ISPAI has been lobbying for
> >> Open Spectrum for years in India. The response shows deep insights in
> >> to the future of wireless broadband as well, recommended reading for
> >> all of us worldwide:
> >> http://www.trai.gov.in/trai/upload/misc/20/ISPAI.pdf
> >>
> >> "The government has already de-licensed indoor as well as outdoor
> >> usage in the 2.4 – 2.4835 GHz band (paving way for growth of
> >> technologies like 802.11b/g and Bluetooth, inter alia). Similarly,
> >> 5.150-5.350 GHz & 5.725-5.825 GHz bands have been de-licensed for
> >> indoor / in-campus usage paving the way for deployment of technologies
> >> like 802.11a and RLAN, etc. Authority's recommendations in this regard
> >> have been seminal and we hope that the government would de-license the
> >> outdoor usage in the 5.150-5.350 GHz & 5.725 – 5.825 GHz as well, as
> >> reiterated by the Authority from time to time."
> >>
> >> I hope this will help you in your efforts in Nepal,
> >> Thanks, Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 8/4/06, Vickram Crishna <vvcrishna <at> radiophony.com> wrote:
> >> > Mahabir Pun wrote:
> >> > > I am going to have a meeting with top level government officials,
> >> who
> >> > > regulate the bands. Is ISM band 5.725 to 5.850 GHz band free in
> >> India.
> >> I
> >> > > am tryig to make this band free too. Please let me
> >> > > know.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Mahabir
> >> >
> >> > The band around 5.1 GHz (not 5.725-5.850 GHz) is free to use indoors
> >> and
> >> > licensing for specific outdoor use is said to be trivial to obtain -
> >> one
> >> > hears that the WPC (who administers bandwidth in India) is waiting for
> >> > public demand before opening up the band to free use.
> >> >
> >> > Of course, the fact that commercially interesting WiMax uses a similar
> >> > band could play some role, with so much money to throw around, as in
> >> the
> >> > case of the GSM and CDMA bands <folding hands with saintly
> >> expression>.
> >> > Trials have already begun, and I hope that we will get access to the
> >> > results. Interestingly, one location set up for intensive testing
> >> > comprises 400 sq km around Pune, on the western edge of the Deccan
> >> > plateau, which is currently experiencing the heaviest rainfall in 99
> >> > years. The robustness of the hybrid network (WiMax plus WiFi) should
> >> be
> >> > useful for future reference, a good learning experience.
> >> >
> >> > ---
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> >> >
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Juergen Neumann | 8 Aug 2006 11:24
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Interesting / Who are they?


Hi folks,

Cven just posted a link to http://www.meraki.net/index.html on the
freifunk lists. Does anyone have a clue who they are? Other comments?

Thx

JuergeN
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Ramon Roca | 8 Aug 2006 12:12

Re: Interesting / Who are they?


I saw also this site some weeks ago. At that time was just announced, nop
availability.
By some reading looked to me as somewhat related to the MIT Roofnet project.

Sounds interesting: For this type of meshing, density is an issue, so by
having mesh-ready low cost devices might help.

I don't know anything else expect what's published at their site, which I
see that have been somewhat changed since my last visit, looks that now
there is a beta program in progress.

Ramon.

>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Cven just posted a link to http://www.meraki.net/index.html on the
> freifunk lists. Does anyone have a clue who they are? Other comments?
>
> Thx
>
> JuergeN
>
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