Hi Divya,
I have transfered 100$ to Chandra's Bank of America account through my friend's account.(Online Transfer)
My friend's name is "Vijendra Raj Apsingekar".
Regards,
Gowtham

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Hello Friends,

Please go through this mail completely and reply on how many of us
are for this cause and how many of us want to take it up seriously.

I am for one will strive for this issue. This has been in my mind
right from the Kargil days. I was not very sure on what to do. Now
that we have got Lt. Saurav Kaliya's father's contact details, we
can talk to him and will ask him on how we can be of help and how to
make the Nation listen to us and take serious steps in this regard.

I will contact Late Major Padmapani Acharya's parents and two days
back I get to know a Major who quit the army after serving 8 years.
I will talk to them.

Let us plan a big event to do something about this. Let us discuss
more on this.

I couldn't control my tears and anger after reading about the brutal
acts again. In fact every now and then I think of doing something
for our Defence people (all the three wings - Air Force, Navy and
Armed Forces).

Please go through the article that I wrote then:

http://authorsden.com/visit/viewarticle.asp?AuthorID=7336&id=9451

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Lt. Saurabh Kalia of 4 JAT Regiment of the Indian Army laid down his
life at the young age of 22 for the nation while guarding the
frontiers at Kargil.

His parents, indeed the Indian Army and nation itself,
lost a dedicated, honest and brave son. He was the first officer to
detect and inform about Pakistani intrusion. Pakistan captured him
and his patrol party of 5 brave men alive on May 15, 1999 from the
Indian side of LOC.

They were kept in captivity for three weeks and
subjected to unprecedented brutal torture, evident from their bodies
handed over by Pakistan Army on June 9, 1999.
The Pakistanis indulged in dastardly acts of inflicting burns on
these Indian officers with cigarettes, piercing their ears with hot
rods, removing their eyes before puncturing them and breaking most
of the bones and teeth.
They even chopped off various limbs and private organs of the Indian
soldiers besides inflicting unimaginable physical and mental
torture.

After 22 days of torture, the brave soldiers were ultimately shot
dead. A detailed post-mortem report is with the Indian Army.
Pakistan dared to humiliate India this way flouting all
international norms.

They proved the extent to which they can degrade humanity. However,
the Indian soldiers did not break while undergoing all this
unimaginable barbarism, which speaks volumes of their patriotism,
grit, determination, tenacity and valour - something all of India
should be proud of.
Sacrificing oneself for the nation is an honour every soldier would
be proud of, but no parent, army or nation can accept what happened
to these brave sons of India . I am afraid every parent may think
twice to send their child in the armed forces if we all fall short
of our duty in safeguarding the PRISONERS OF WAR AND LET THEM MEET
THE FATE OF LT.SAURABH KALIA.

It may also send a demoralising signal to the army personnel
fighting for the Nation that our POWs in Pak cannot be taken care
of. It is a matter of shame and disgust that most of Indian Human
Rights Organisations by and large, showed apathy in this matter.

Through this humble submission, may I appeal to all the civilized
people irrespective of colour, caste, region, religion and political
lineage to stir their conscience and rise to take this as a NATIONAL
ISSUE !!!

International Human Rights Organizations must be approached to
expose and pressure Pakistan to identify, book and punish all those
who perpetrated this heinous crime to our men in uniform.

If Pakistan is allowed to go unpunished in this case, we can only
imagine the consequences. Below is the list of 5 other soldiers who
preferred to die for the country rather than open their mouths in
front of enemy -

1. Sep. Arjun Ram s/o Sh. Chokka Ram; Village & PO
Gudi. Teh. & Dist.
Nagaur, (Rajasthan)

2. Sep. Bhanwar Lal Bagaria h/o Smt. Santosh Devi;
Village Sivelara;Teh.&
Dist.Sikar (Rajasthan)
3. Sep. Bhikaram h/o Smt. Bhawri Devi; Village
Patasar; Teh.
Pachpatva;Distt.Barmer (Rajasthan)

4. Sep. Moola Ram h/o Smt. Rameshwari Devi; Village
Katori; Teh. Jayal;Dist.
Nagaur(Rajasthan)

5. Sep. Naresh Singh h/o Smt. Kalpana Devi; Village
Chhoti Tallam;
Teh.Iglab; Dist.Aligarh (UP)

Yours truly,
Dr. N.K. Kalia (Lt. Saurabh Kalia's father).
Saurabh Nagar,
Palampur-176061
Himachal Pradesh
Tel: +91 (01894) 32065

Let us give a supporting hand to Dr. Kalia in his efforts to get
justice. Remember, Lt. Kalia and his colleagues died on the front so
that we could sleep peacefully in our homes.

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Hi Divya,

Definitely we can do. We only have to persists. We have to move
every post and pillar.

Following is the reply from Ajit Dembla in the Likeminded Group to
my mail.
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Prasanthi & All,

Let me speak for myself here. I think adding our name and forwarding
this to
about x people in my address book is armchair patriotism at its
best. And
that does not help anyone or also influence anyone. If we have to do
something - we should first HAVE facts. What action is required and
why ?

Pakistan forces have done the worst thing they could have. We need
to have
facts of what Indian govt did after receiving the bodies on 9th
June, 1999.
If we have to organise people action - it cannot be done via emails
in
personal boxes - but thru more organized action.

... see "Save Naznin" campaign on Orkut.
Naznin was a rape victim in Iran and while defending herself she
killed her
attacker. As per Iranian law - she was being hanged for the local
law had
'an eye for an eye' kind of justice system. Later being pressurised
by all
international media / website / press - the judicial system changed
the
verdict on day of hanging instead asking for a large amount to be
paid in
some time as 'blood money' to family and suspended hanging of
naaznin
for some time. Money poured in from all over and she was freed
within a
couple of weeks! check out the story and what she is doing now at
the link
below

http://save.nazanin.googlepages.com/news#overturned

The reason I state above is to impress the right way of action.
Definitely not through private emails - we will achieve nothing.

Br
Ajit Dembla
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This is my reply:

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This is my idea:

1. First mobilize people (for this we use mails)
2. Talk to Dr. N.K. Kalia (I already tried but the call is not
allowed
from my cell phone. I will try tonight from any STD booth. Meanwhile
I
will also check BharatRakshak.com and other Army related Web sites).
3. As you mentioned, we will see if we can file an RTI on this.
Though
it is related to defence it is not any confidential information that
shouldn't be shared with the public.
4. Once we can unite people in Hyderabad, we will do the same in all
the districts in AP. One day we will appeal to our people to form a
human chain or something as such, to gain National Attention.
---- For this we will take the help of Army Associations
and people like Late Major Padmapani Acharya's family members and
people who served in Army and quit. (Major Shiv Kiran of Ryze. I
gave
a message to him. I will talk to him tonight).
5. This we will repeat in all states.

But we shouldn't stop until the Parliament replies and take
necessary action.

This may seem too ideal but if we all want it genuinely, we can
definitely do. When there is a will, there is a way.

Also, this is a cause everyone feels for. As we, common public,
didn't
do much, this has not been taken up seriously. But if we all take it
up seriously and do a program like Human Chain or anything, (this is
only one idea. May be we can get more ideas), we will succeed
definitely.

How to mobilize people?

1. Members of our groups.
2. Members of the groups where we are members.
3. Our respective companies.

We can definitely unite. But for that we should persist till we
reach the goal.

I will do all the co-ordination that is required and update everyone
of us. But I need the support and co-operation of all of you.
=====================================================

Kishore from Saayam Cheddam group already expressed his interest to
support me.

I mailed to BharatRakshak.com about our interest to help. Waiting
for a reply from them.

This is there in my mind right from the Kargil war. But then I
didn't know what to do, whom to approach and all. Then I am only
one. Now I feel there are few people to support me, if not all.

Thank you.

with regards,
Prasanthi.
When you want something, the whole universe conspires in helping you
to achieve it.

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Thanks Gowtham for the contribution. I will confirm once i get the
Money into our account.

Here are the Contributions from our group:

Prasad: $100
Divya: $100
Chandra $100
Kavitha $100
Suneel $100
Uday $50
Gowtham $100

I am sending $650 Today.

Thanks
Yasoda

--- In tomakeadifference <at> yahoogroups.com, "Smiling Lavender"
<smilinglavender <at> ...> wrote:
>
> Appreciate ur efforts & thnks on ur donation <at> Gowtham !
Personally I know
> wht crisis u and ur frnds r gng thru having tried helping another
fellow
> student. Apart from tht, u found urself wishing to help this guy
in need.
>
> This speaks a lot abt u guys, who are still in the student life
here, trying
> to make ends meet. Bravo !
>
> Chandra will confirm on the transfer.
>
> :)
> Divya
>
>
>
>
> On 9/30/07, gowtham r <gowtham1984 <at> ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Divya,
> > I have transfered 100$ to Chandra's Bank of America account
through my
> > friend's account.(Online Transfer)
> > My friend's name is "Vijendra Raj Apsingekar".
> > Regards,
> > Gowtham
> >
> >
> > On 9/30/07, smilinglavender <smilinglavender <at> ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Pls send ur cheque to Chandra, address and details mentioned
in the
> > > other thread on this very case.
> > >
> > > U can ask Santhosh on other details if any. He is more
familiar with
> > > the whole process, and u r one of his frnds I think, if I am
not
> > > wrong.
> > >
> > > Divya
> > >
> > > --- In tomakeadifference <at> yahoogroups.com<tomakeadifference%
40yahoogroups.com>,
> > > "gowtham r"
> > > <gowtham1984 <at> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi everyone,
> > > > This is Gowtham, a silent member of this group.
> > > > I would like to contribute. Please let me know how to do it.
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Gowtham
> > > >
> > > > On 9/26/07, kavitha_nistala <kavitha_nistala <at> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Guys:
> > > > >
> > > > > Any help that we could do to help out this person battle
for his
> > > life
> > > > > would be appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://help-suresh.org/. <http://help-suresh.org/>
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Kavitha.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>

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Hi,

   Did anyone attend this event? Please share your notes from this event. Any pictures taken? Please share them as well.

Karthik

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Hi,

   How was the meeting? Any  minutes to share?

Karthik

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Karthik,

Where are you now :)

These are early hours in India, 1:50 AM. 9 more hours to go to visit
the hospital.

As far as I am concerned, I will be going to Candle March. I decided
not to take my camera this time. We will get the photos from BHUMI
people.

On last sunday, I decided not to attend the hospital cleaning
program as I am very stressed out. With so many things happening
around, I am trying my level best not to miss and to catch up.

I have to go to office in the morning, afternoon I have to meet a TP
friend, Sarma garu. I am planning to go directly to Tankbund from
there.

As per my knowledge, Ravi will definitely go. Others depending on
their office work will participate. I think most of us will
participate in the candle march as it is evening.

As Ravi proved to be a very good writer with his blog, I am sure he
will give us the picture of what went through.

Thank you.

with regards,
Prasanthi.

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