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Lawrence London | 1 Feb 03:01
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Fast, open-science publishing for biology and medicine
January 31, 2012
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(Credit: Faculty of 1000)

The Faculty of 1000 (F1000) has announced an experiment in online
science publishing aimed at sharing research results widely and
rapidly, Nature News Blog reports.

Unlike ArXiv, it will use open peer review to check postings
afterwards and will charge for submissions.

The F1000 Research project begins publishing later this year, covering
biology and medicine. It will accept any format of work (posters, data
tables, discursive speculation based on preliminary results, raw data
sets and protocols, for example) after an “initial sanity check.”

It encourages authors to keep revising and updating what they have
published. And by default, it will use open publishing licenses,
allowing others to share and remix posted research (with attribution).

Also see: An arXiv for all of science?
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loren luyendyk | 1 Feb 06:19

Re: Fwd: Fukuoka and trees


In my experience, pruning usually leads to more pruning.  Depending on the tree's response to pruning
(maybe due to the timing of the pruning, ie waxing or waning moon), more corrective pruning may be
necessary to keep the shape desired, or to manage rampant growth (water sprouts) which may compromise
tree health and stability.

I am a fan of minimal pruning.  I prune to correct crossing branches, or to reduce the chance of branches
breaking due to occlude bark or bad branch angles.  It is true that larger and higher quality fruit is the
result of a proper pruning regime.

Grafted trees definitely grow differently than seedlings.  Due to their precocious nature, they set large
amounts of fruit early on in life.  Also, depending on where the scion came from on the mother tree, the graft
retains the memory.  For example, if you use a laterally growing branch for a scion, the grated tree may grow
sideways.  Same goes for cuttings.

I have been working on growing out fruit trees that are true to type from seed, in my own small and slow way.  I
have found that many subtropical fruit trees produce high quality fruit from seed, ie cherimoyas,
loquats, rose apples, pineapple guavas and others.  We also have some local naturalized white peaches
that are great from seed.  These trees all seem to have great form naturally and do not need much pruning at
all. 

I think Fukuoka must have been growing seedlings, especially since he was so zen and probably didn't deem it
necessary to graft.  I also like Sepp Holzer's approach to plant seeds in the field and graft in place, and
then leave the seedling branches below the graft.  I don't think he prunes much at all either.

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Permaculture Design & Education
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sals3 | 1 Feb 16:19
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Re: Fwd: Fukuoka and trees

I like this thread.  I found that some mangoes grow true to type.  I can't 
spell but they call them pollyembroatic or something like that.  they way I 
tell is that the mango seed that put out more than one tree from the seed 
usually come true to mom.  I live in Santa Barbara and I had lots of grafted 
mango trees that were kill back below the graft from a freeze we had in the 
90s so now I really prize seedlings because there is no dying below the 
graft and they can come back true.  I know folks that only eat from seedling 
trees and think grafting is not so good.  either the scion grows faster than 
the graft or vice a verse .  I think for money people in stores all buy Hass 
or name brands.  so for money I grow good tasting grafted trees but I also 
love seedlings .  I also have a white peach that has great seedlings .  I 
have a orange grapefruit that is so sweet and comes true to seed so far. 
remember all trees came from seedlings .  I would like to see the list of 
true parent  seed plants.  nothing beats a true seedling with tap root and 
natural growth.  all one and the same plant .
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "loren luyendyk" <loren@...>
To: "Permaculture Listserve" <permaculture@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Fwd: Fukuoka and trees

>
> In my experience, pruning usually leads to more pruning.  Depending on the 
> tree's response to pruning (maybe due to the timing of the pruning, ie 
> waxing or waning moon), more corrective pruning may be necessary to keep 
> the shape desired, or to manage rampant growth (water sprouts) which may 
> compromise tree health and stability.
>
> I am a fan of minimal pruning.  I prune to correct crossing branches, or 
> to reduce the chance of branches breaking due to occlude bark or bad
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Lawrence F. London, Jr. | 1 Feb 16:51

Re: Fwd: Fukuoka and trees


Cc.: seedkeepers list
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/seedkeepers

I would like to see us start a fruit tree seed exchange program and 
network. I would be very interested in acquiring seeds for trees that 
will reproduce true to form for apple, plum, Sal's orange-grapefruit,
pear, blackberry, raspberry and others. Is anyone interested. I have 
fruiting eleagnus, plum and heirloom blackberry to exchange.

LL

On 2/1/2012 10:19 AM, sals3 wrote:
> I like this thread.  I found that some mangoes grow true to type.  I can't
> spell but they call them pollyembroatic or something like that.  they way I
> tell is that the mango seed that put out more than one tree from the seed
> usually come true to mom.  I live in Santa Barbara and I had lots of grafted
> mango trees that were kill back below the graft from a freeze we had in the
> 90s so now I really prize seedlings because there is no dying below the
> graft and they can come back true.  I know folks that only eat from seedling
> trees and think grafting is not so good.  either the scion grows faster than
> the graft or vice a verse .  I think for money people in stores all buy Hass
> or name brands.  so for money I grow good tasting grafted trees but I also
> love seedlings .  I also have a white peach that has great seedlings .  I
> have a orange grapefruit that is so sweet and comes true to seed so far.
> remember all trees came from seedlings .  I would like to see the list of
> true parent  seed plants.  nothing beats a true seedling with tap root and
> natural growth.  all one and the same plant .
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "loren luyendyk"<loren@...>
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Chris Carnevale | 1 Feb 18:25
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Re: true-to-type seed exchange

Lawrence,

I would like to participate in your proposed "true-to-type" seed exchange.
Perhaps you could set up an invite-only Google Doc as an inventory and
folks could add their name, contact info, and what seeds they have
available.  That would be a great resource.  Also it would be good for
folks to be cognizant of pest/pathogen transmission issues.  I will
certainly participate.

Thanks,

Chris Carnevale
Charleston, SC
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Lawrence F. London, Jr. | 1 Feb 18:46

Re: true-to-type seed exchange

On 2/1/2012 12:25 PM, Chris Carnevale wrote:
> Lawrence,
>
> I would like to participate in your proposed "true-to-type" seed exchange.
> Perhaps you could set up an invite-only Google Doc as an inventory and
> folks could add their name, contact info, and what seeds they have
> available.  That would be a great resource.  Also it would be good for
> folks to be cognizant of pest/pathogen transmission issues.  I will
> certainly participate.

I just created a Google Doc we can all use.

Seed Exchange TTT
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N2wYF8y3tfWA0T8aDIq_iT_BcLjs80kOaoEuHWDqHQQ/edit?hl=en_US

I have added Shawn Tisdell (who created the seed resources & sourcelist 
spreadsheet),Chris & Sal. Anyone else want to help edit this document?

LL
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Michael Pilarski | 1 Feb 20:11
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Re: true-to-type seed exchange

Hi,

I am interested in a seed exchange with an invite-only Google Doc  I tried to get onto the one that Chris C
just set up and it wouldn't let me in because I am not authorized.  If anyone gets a google doc seed exchange
going please put me on the authorized to access list.

I grow and save large amounts of seed every year.  I have a seed list if anyone is interested.  

Michael Pilarski

--- On Wed, 2/1/12, Lawrence F. London, Jr. <venaurafarm@...> wrote:

From: Lawrence F. London, Jr. <venaurafarm@...>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] true-to-type seed exchange
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@...>
Date: Wednesday, February 1, 2012, 9:46 AM

On 2/1/2012 12:25 PM, Chris Carnevale wrote:
> Lawrence,
>
> I would like to participate in your proposed "true-to-type" seed exchange.
> Perhaps you could set up an invite-only Google Doc as an inventory and
> folks could add their name, contact info, and what seeds they have
> available.  That would be a great resource.  Also it would be good for
> folks to be cognizant of pest/pathogen transmission issues.  I will
> certainly participate.

I just created a Google Doc we can all use.

Seed Exchange TTT
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Jason Gerhardt | 1 Feb 20:44
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Re: Fwd: Fukuoka and trees

Lawrence,
That is an awesome idea! I think we permaculturalists need more avenues for
useful plant exchange. A live plant exchange would be excellent as well.

In general, I think subtropical and tropical fruits produce closer to type
from seed, peaches and apricots too, which helps explain Fukuoka's methods
more. I would be skeptical of plums, cherries, and apples from seed due to
multiple cross pollination sources being very frequent in many areas i.e.
wild cherries, plums, crabapples. It is possible to get them true to type,
but needs control and careful management, likely hand pollination.

I am beginning to wonder what happens to trees longer term by planting the
graft below grade, and leaving it unpruned. I usually plant my grafts about
an inch or so below grade as in my very windy climate it makes for a much
more resilient tree. St. Lawrence Nursery in N.Y. recommends this planting
method for cold climates too. I have been minimal pruning plants like this
so I can't say how well they do without manipulation. I think I will leave
a few new trees alone to watch what they do over the years when growing on
a combination of their own roots and on rootstock.

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Lawrence F. London, Jr. | 2 Feb 00:38

Re: true-to-type seed exchange

On 2/1/2012 12:25 PM, Chris Carnevale wrote:

> I would like to participate in your proposed "true-to-type" seed exchange.
> Perhaps you could set up an invite-only Google Doc as an inventory and
> folks could add their name, contact info, and what seeds they have
> available.  That would be a great resource.  Also it would be good for
> folks to be cognizant of pest/pathogen transmission issues.  I will
> certainly participate.

On 2/1/2012 2:11 PM, Michael Pilarski wrote:

 > I am interested in a seed exchange with an invite-only Google Doc  I
 > tried to get onto the one that Chris C just set up and it wouldn't
 > let me in because I am not authorized.  If anyone gets a google doc
 > seed exchange going please put me on the authorized to access list.
 >
 > I grow and save large amounts of seed every year.  I have a seed list
 > if anyone is interested.

On 2/1/2012 2:44 PM, Jason Gerhardt wrote:

 > That is an awesome idea! I think we permaculturalists need more 
avenues for useful plant exchange. A live plant exchange would be 
excellent as well.
 > In general, I think subtropical and tropical fruits produce closer to 
type from seed, peaches and apricots too, which helps explain Fukuoka's 
methods> more. I would be skeptical of plums, cherries, and apples from 
seed due to multiple cross pollination sources being very frequent in 
many areas i.e. wild cherries, plums, crabapples. It is possible to get 
them true to type, but needs control and careful management, likely hand
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loren luyendyk | 2 Feb 07:27

PDC in Raglan NZ this March- Designing for Change


March 4th-18th, 2012 

Permaculture Design Certification Course
Designing for Change

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If there is one thing we can count on, it is change- it is the only constant in the universe.  Especially
nowadays, change seems to be the norm.  With this in mind, how can we create resilient and regenerative
systems that provide our basic needs without taxing the environment, and that adapt to change?  We will
explore this vital question during this two week intensive learning experience.

So, what is permaculture?  A better way to ask is- what are permacultures, an how do we design them?

Perma-cultures are perma-nent cultures, be they agricultures, economic cultures, or social cultures. 
We can create long-lasting and resilient systems by mimicking nature in our designs.  If we recognize and
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relationships we can leverage Nature for the benefit of all, creating more surplus with less work.

Course Topics include:
    •    Productive Home and Large Scale Food Production
    •    Plant Propagation and Nursery Design
    •    Food forestry, Agroforestry, Broad-Acre Strategies 
    •    Composting and Waste-to-Nutrient Cycling 
    •    Soil building for Sustainable Fertility
    •    Water Harvesting, Storage, and Conservation Strategies
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