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SArjuna | 1 Feb 2008 01:45
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re. Lactoferments

     Lawrence wrote:

     "The kim chee/kraut foods are truly ambrosia-class delicacies and keep 
you in
top health, vital when lab cultured biodiverse probiotics are not available."

     I look at it quite differently.   Lactofermenting a variety of foods at 
home is part of permaculture, not just something to do "when buying 
lab-cultured biodiverse probiotics are not available!"

     For ages, people all over the world have made and eaten lactoferments.   
 Only in modern commercial society have "consumers" started buying 
lab-cultured probiotics.    

     How did people change from being makers of things to "consumers?"

     Shivani in   WI

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Lawrence F. London, Jr. | 1 Feb 2008 06:21

Climate Change Websites


   http://www.earth911.org
   http://www.climatechoices.org
   http://www.theclimateproject.org
   http://www.realclimate.org

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Michael Pilarski | 1 Feb 2008 07:21
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List of Permaculture Convergences in the US. Anyone missing?


Permaculture Convergences in the US 

North American Permaculture Convergence 
Keith Johnson of the Permaculture Activist posted a short proposal for a North American Permaculture
Convergence on the permaculture@... PC listserve
(on January 21, 2008).

Northeast Permaculture Gathering
4th Annual NEPC Summer Gathering,
 2008 tentative Dates July 11-13. 
Hosted by the Western Mass Permaculture Guild. 
http://northeasternpermaculture.wikispaces.com/

Southeast Permaculture Convergence
15th annual. Tentative date, August 2-4,  2008
Celo, North Carolina.
http://se-permaculture.tripod.com/

Southwest Drylands Permaculture Gathering 
Near Santa Barbara. Labor Day weekend  2008. Combined with the first Southern California Convergence.
www.sbpermaculture.org/ May not be posted yet.

Bay Area Regional Permaculture Convergence
California. Their 4th annual was held July 7-8, 2007. 
www.urbanpermacultureguild.org/convergence/

Upper Midwest Collaborative 
February, 2008. Minneapolis. This is an annual gathering. They also held a Twin Cities PC Convergence in
2006. www.permaculturecollaborative.us
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Juergen Botz | 1 Feb 2008 12:35
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Re: Permaculture, Sustainable Agriculture, sustag <at> (gardening and farming) and Market Farming, marketfarming <at> ibiblio mailing lists are available to those interested in subscribing.

Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:
> Sustainable Agriculture (gardening and farming) ibiblio mailing list: sustag <at> 

I attempted to sign up for this about a week ago, as well as 
the seedsavers list, but got a response that signup requires 
moderator approval, and no further response.

:j

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Woody Wodraska | 1 Feb 2008 18:41
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Sustainable is not good enough

 From the February essay in the Stella*Natura Calendar, by Ethan Roland

"But is sustainable enough? Taking a few steps back, to Kazakhstan,  
to Chile, to a global perspective, I'm not sure that we want to  
"sustain" what is happening right now: Climate change, mass  
extinction of species, overpopulation, peak oil, soil degradation,  
collapsing fisheries, deforestation...   We must go beyond  
"sustainability." We must REGENERATE the earth. Combining the  
productive and fruitful biodynamically cultivated landscapes with the  
eco-logical focus of permaculture design can create systems of  
holistic regeneration--farms, homes, and communities that give back  
to the natural world, healing the damage we have already done."

May I slip this in?

Biodynamic gardeners and teachers seek long term opportunity to share  
our life’s work.

Who we are: Barbara M V Scott and Woody Wodraska [see Biographies]  
are long-time Biodynamic gardeners and teachers. We teach people how  
to make conscious compost.  We  make and use the biodynamic  
preparations, grow vital garden seeds, formulate homeopathic flower  
essences, and know how to bring land and gardens into health and  
vitality. We bring with us a large cache of heirloom seeds from our  
18 years as a Biodynamic seed company.

Where We Wish To Be:   We will join with people already situated on  
rural land--a small community, farm, school or learning center--whose  
vision includes education, nutrition, right livelihood and a passion  
to bring the land into a high vibration.  We aim to be with people
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L. Santoyo | 1 Feb 2008 21:15

Santa Cruz, CA -Permaculture Design Course Series

*Greetings,

Please forward this to your friends in California's Bay Area ...

-Big Thanks!!!
earthflow.com*

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*Please Forward -Please Post**

**Santa Cruz, CA -Permaculture Design Course Series*
 *Third weekend of each month: Feb - July, 2008 *

http://earthflow.com/santacruzPDC08.php

Santa Cruz, CA - Registration is now open for the *Santa Cruz Permaculture
Design Course*, which will begin the third weekend in *February,
02/16-02/17, and continue once a month through the third weekend in July,
07/ 19-07/20*, at various locations throughout Santa Cruz County. Saturday
class times are from 9am-5pm and Sunday class times are from 10am-5pm.

Participants in the Santa Cruz Permaculture Design Course will learn how to
*integrate ecological principles into their lives* by learning about organic
gardening and farming; alternative energy and appropriate technology; solar
design and natural building; water conservation and erosion control;
community building and communication skills.

Learn from *veteran permaculture instructors and internationally acclaimed
leaders in the worldwide sustainability movement* including *Larry Santoyo*,
Director, EarthFlow Design Works;* **Ken Foster*, Permaculture Designer,
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Michael Pilarski | 1 Feb 2008 22:50
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permaculture convergences


I tried sending this yesterday, but it didn't seem to go online, so I am trying again. MP.

PERMACULTURE CONVERGENCES IN THE US 

North American Permaculture Convergence 
Keith Johnson at the Permaculture Activist posted a proposal for a North American Permaculture
Convergence on the permaculture@... PC listserve
(on January 21, 2008).

Northeast Permaculture Gathering
4th Annual NEPC Summer Gathering, 2008 tentative Dates July 11-13. Hosted by the Western Mass
Permaculture Guild. 
http://northeasternpermaculture.wikispaces.com/

Southeast Permaculture Convergence
15th annual. Tentative date, August 2-4,  2008
Celo, North Carolina.
http://se-permaculture.tripod.com/

Southwest Drylands Permaculture Gathering 
Near Santa Barbara. Labor Day weekend  2008. Combined with the first Southern California Convergence. www.sbpermaculture.org/

Bay Area Regional Permaculture Convergence
California. Their 4th annual was held July 7-8, 2007. 
www.urbanpermacultureguild.org/convergence/

Upper Midwest Collaborative 
February, 2008. Minneapolis. This is an annual gathering. They also held a Twin Cities PC Convergence in
2006. www.permaculturecollaborative.us
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Lawrence F. London, Jr. | 1 Feb 2008 23:13

Re: permaculture convergences

Michael Pilarski wrote:
> I tried sending this yesterday, but it didn't seem to go online, so I am trying again. MP.
> 
> PERMACULTURE CONVERGENCES IN THE US 

It made it to the list just fine.

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Michael Pilarski | 2 Feb 2008 05:03
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missing email

It never arrived in my in-box, so I assumed it hadn't gone out. I usually get it right away.  I'll holler if it
happens again.  Glad to hear it went out. No response yet.

Do you maintain the Permaculture Online part of ibiblio by yourself? Or is it a collaboration?  I have just
looked at ibiblio's website so I am just getting a better idea of what you are all doing.

 Thanks for the notification,

Michael, 

"Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj@...> wrote: Michael Pilarski wrote:
> I tried sending this yesterday, but it didn't seem to go online, so I am trying again. MP.
> 
> PERMACULTURE CONVERGENCES IN THE US 

It made it to the list just fine.

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Lawrence F. London, Jr. | 2 Feb 2008 05:35

Futuristic Singing Ringing Tree Sculpture


Singing Ringing Tree, Burnley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS3ugIfPHRk&feature=related
Singing Ringing Tree, a Panopticon for Burnley. Filmed at the launch event on December 15th 2006. Film by
Roger Appleton 
on behalf of Mid Pennine Arts and their partners.
Futuristic Singing Ringing Tree Sculpture
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B0hGyKV9qs
Looking like the wreckage of an Alien space craft, this Futuristic Sculpture is Art Jim, but not as we know
it. 
Commisioned by a forward thinking Burnley Council, The collection of tubes makes the strangest sounds
when the wind 
blows, which is often round the location at Crown POint, on the moorland overlooking Burnley. Seen in the
background is 
Pendle Hill, famous for the PENDLE WITCHES. Maybe in the sculpture, the myth lives on. Let me know what YOU think.
THE SINGING RINGING TREE, TAKE 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPbbbfpjFAc&feature=user
The Singing Ringing Tree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rhuFGvXARA&feature=related
The Singing Ringing Tree up Crown Point in Burnley, Lancashire, England.

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