Lawrence F. London, Jr. | 1 Dec 2007 02:31

Antarctica from Nasa satellite


Antarctica from Nasa satellite
The most accurate, high resolution images to date of Antarctica can be seen by Nasa's Landsat 7 satellite.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/player/nol/newsid_7110000/newsid_7117500?redirect=7117562.stm&news=1&nbwm=1&bbram=1&nbram=1&bbwm=1&asb=1

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Lawrence F. London, Jr. | 1 Dec 2007 02:51

Address by Mayor Ross C. “Rocky” Anderson, Mayor of Salt Lake City, Utah


http://www.slcgov.com/mayor/speeches/2007%20Speeches/102507octoberdemonstration.pdf
Address by Mayor Ross C. “Rocky” Anderson
October 27, 2007
City & County Building
Salt Lake City, Utah

Today, as we come together once again in this great city, we raise our
voices in unison to say to President Bush, to Vice President Cheney, to other
members of the Bush Administration (past and present), to a majority of
Congress, including Utah’s entire congressional delegation, and to much of
the mainstream media: “You have failed us miserably and we won’t take it
any more.”
“While we had every reason to expect far more of you, you have been
pompous, greedy, cruel, and incompetent as you have led this great nation to
a moral, military, and national security abyss.”
“You have breached trust with the American people in the most
egregious ways. You have utterly failed in the performance of your jobs.
You have undermined our Constitution, permitted the violation of the most
fundamental treaty obligations, and betrayed the rule of law.”
“You have engaged in, or permitted, heinous human rights abuses of
the sort never before countenanced in our nation’s history as a matter of
official policy. You have sent American men and women to kill and be
killed on the basis of lies, on the basis of shifting justifications, without
competent leadership, and without even a coherent plan for this monumental
blunder.”
“We are here to tell you: We won’t take it any more!”
“You have acted in direct contravention of values that we, as
Americans who love our country, hold dear. You have deceived us in the
most cynical, outrageous ways. You have undermined, or allowed the
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Scott Pittman | 1 Dec 2007 18:13

Re: Pond construction


The method you describe Sepp Holtzer using is as old as the hills and is
called gleying.  You can use almost any domestic livestock that are penned
into the pond area and fed and watered there.  The side slopes of the pond
should be gentle to accommodate animal access.  Each day move the feed
station a little so that the livestock is concentrated in a new area.  It is
the combination of their hoof action and their manure and urine that works
to form a seal.  This method works if you have sufficient clay content, it
won't work in sand as far as I know.

To improve your chances you could add a little bentonite clay to the soil
before the animals are introduced.  One source of bentonite is through
drilling supply companies who use the a clay slurry to lubricate drilling
bits.  Often it is cheaper from the drilling companies than from other
sources.  Check the contents of the bentonite clay bag before purchasing.
It has been years since I bought it and they may have added compounds that
you don't want in your pond.

You may have deposits of bentonite clay near you so check first.  Bentonite
is a composit of minerals primarily volcanic clays with the essential
mineral monmorillonite which has the capacity of swelling many times its
size when exposed to water.

I have heard of using explosives to compact a pond if the leaks are small.
This is done with a full pond and the explosive creates a pressure wave that
causes the water to surge against the pond walls and compact the soil.
Don't try this at home!

Finally, Bill Mollison spoke of using green plant material anchored to the
bottom of the pond.  You could pen banana fronds to the bottom and sides of
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Scott Pittman | 1 Dec 2007 18:37

Re: Pond construction

Sorry Vital I didn't respond to your questions about Bill's ponds and soil.

It sounds to me like you could have lateritic soils which are tightly bound
claylike material, high in iron oxide with most of the silica leached out by
rains.  My experience with this soil is that it needs to be ground into a
powder to function as clay.  I know this is true for making brick not sure
about in ponds. Also laterite can be formed from any parent material so it
may be very poor in clay content.  The typical jar test for clay content
doesn't seem to work for me with laterite which means I have to use a soils
lab to give me an analysis.

Bill had a good clay source and his red soils seemed to have sufficient
available clay to seal.  It seems to me that he had to bring clay from a
nearby clay barrow to key his dams into the arroyo bottoms but I'm fuzzy on
the details- its been some years since I was in Tyalgum.  The person to talk
to about this is Doug Dorrough who built all of Bills' ponds but I'm not
sure how to reach him.

By the way the term gleying is derived from the Russian glei which was a
soil classification for a particular type of clay.  Since the Russians were
the first scientists to really classify soil types we have a lot of Russian
words introduced to international soil classification.

Scott Pittman
Director
Permaculture Institute
www.permaculture.org

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Scott Pittman | 1 Dec 2007 18:51

Re: [Fwd from - Dylan Ford: Beginning Farmers

Any way to get the information on ordering this CD?  Sounds like a good
teaching tool for the pc certification course.

Scott Pittman
Director
Permaculture Institute
www.permaculture.org

-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence F. London, Jr. [mailto:lflj@...] 
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 9:01 PM
To: permaculture
Subject: [permaculture] [Fwd from - Dylan Ford: Beginning Farmers

Beginning Farmers
Dylan Ford

Folks -

 From time to time people will write to the various agriculture discussion
lists to which I subscribe, stating their intent or at least desire to begin
farming, people seeking advice and direction. I have gardened for nearly
forty years and worked in nurseries and at grounds-keeping from time to
time, but do not know the nuts and bolts involved in farming firsthand to
offer any advice.

But I would like to make one modest suggestion that I think would be of
value to any would-be farmers - I recently had the good fortune of watching
a documentary film called "How To Save The World: One Man, One Cow, One
Planet," which details and discusses the work of 80 year old Biodynamic
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cuauhtemoc landeros | 1 Dec 2007 19:59
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Drinking Water


I am a new Permaculturist and am looking for some guidance in the way of books, links, experience or
knowledge of water purification techniques. I would like to make a model/plan for implementation in
needing areas were clean water access in scarce to none.
Any links are good links
Thanks Cuauhtemoc   
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Jody Troupe | 2 Dec 2007 01:08
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Re: Scott - [Fwd from - Dylan Ford: Beginning Farmers

Hi Scott (and others)-

I may not have the best info, but I just Googled the name to find my 
way. I just ordered the DVD from Green Planet Films:     
http://www.greenplanetfilms.org/
It is supposedly offered thru Amazon too, but when I searched for it, I 
couldn't find it.

I also found it at its name URL:    http://www.howtosavetheworld.co.nz/ 
  but the shipping was $10
(they did have an American link so I don't think it was being shipped 
from NZ).

I opted for Green Planet Films because it was a tad cheaper to ship 
(only $4.15 first class), and they offer a ton of other films. I also 
picked up "Building With Awareness: the construction of a hybrid home".
Looking forward to seeing both!

Jody

On Dec 1, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Scott Pittman wrote:

> Any way to get the information on ordering this CD?  Sounds like a good
> teaching tool for the pc certification course.
>
> Scott Pittman
> Director
> Permaculture Institute
> www.permaculture.org
>
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Primal Parent | 2 Dec 2007 07:21
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Peak Water


slightly off topic, but i am looking for on line resources for global predictions of water, weather, etc.

i have found numerous sites for places to be in north america during "the collapse", but nothing abroad.

also, i remember reading that water is set to become more scarce than oil is now and places at the foot of
mountain ranges (andes, alps, himalayas) will be the best off.

can anyone point me in the right direction?

thanks.

> From: descendingeagle@...
> To: permaculture@...
> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 18:59:08 +0000
> Subject: [permaculture] Drinking Water
> 
> 
> I am a new Permaculturist and am looking for some guidance in the way of books, links, experience or
knowledge of water purification techniques. I would like to make a model/plan for implementation in
needing areas were clean water access in scarce to none.
> Any links are good links
> Thanks Cuauhtemoc   
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Linda Shewan | 2 Dec 2007 07:31
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Re: How to save the world DVD

Probably best to buy from and support the source http://www.howtosavetheworld.co.nz/ I think. There was
talk on another mailing list that they have not seen much money from it so far and yet a lot of people have seen
it so... but any authentic copy is good I guess.

It's a beautiful, wonderful film.

Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Pittman [mailto:scott@...]
Sent: Sunday, 2 December 2007 4:52 AM
To: 'permaculture'
Subject: Re: [permaculture] [Fwd from - Dylan Ford: Beginning Farmers

Any way to get the information on ordering this CD?  Sounds like a good
teaching tool for the pc certification course.

Scott Pittman
Director
Permaculture Institute
www.permaculture.org

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Lawrence F. London, Jr. | 2 Dec 2007 08:26

Parachuting cats into Borneo


Parachuting cats into Borneo! A Cautionary Tale.

In the early 1950's, the Dayak people of Borneo suffered a malarial
outbreak. The World Health Organisation (WHO) had a solution: to spray
large amounts of DDT to kill the mosquitoes that carried the malaria. The
mosquitoes died; the malaria declined; so far so good. But there were
unexpected side effects. Amongst the first was that the roofs of the
people's
houses began to fall down on their heads. It seemed that the DDT had also
killed a parasitic wasp which had previously controlled thatch-eating
caterpillars. Worse, the DDT-poisoned insects were eaten by geckoes, which
were eaten by cats. The cats started to die, the rats flourished, and the
people were threatened by outbreaks of typhus and plague. To cope with
these problems, which it had itself created, the WHO was obliged to
parachute 14 000 live cats into Borneo. Operation Cat Drop, now almost
forgotten at the WHO, is a graphic illustration of the
interconnectedness of
life, and of the fact that the root of problems often stems from their
purported solutions.

(Quoted in Rachel Wynberg and Christine Jardine, Biotechnology and
Biodiversity: Key Policy Issues for South Africa, 2000)

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