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Martin Naylor | 1 Jun 2006 01:16
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Re: permaTV

Hi guys
  This is also starting, which could open possibilities
  below name
  Martin

Graham <grahamburnett@...> wrote:
  havn't checked this out properly yet, but looks interesting....

http://www.ecoresources.com.au/ptv2/index.html

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Wesley Roe and Marjorie Lakin Erickson | 1 Jun 2006 05:15
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Rainwater Harvesting book tour and presentations to northern New Mexico and central Arizona June.2006

Hello water harvesters,
I take my rainwater harvesting book tour and presentations to northern New 
Mexico and central Arizona in June. Please visit the events page on my 
website www.HarvestingRainwater.com for the specific dates, locations, and 
times or see them in the message below. PLEASE HELP SPREAD THE WORD!

-Brad Lancaster

Rainwater Harvesting for Drylands
Turning Water Scarcity into Water Abundance
Slide Show & Booksigning with Brad Lancaster

NORTHERN NEW MEXICO (Albuquerque, Los Alamos, Lama Foundation, Santa Fe, 
Taos, Ramah) AND CENTRAL ARIZONA (Globe)
JUNE 10 ­ JUNE 20, 2006

Although rainwater harvesting has been accomplished by humans in
virtually every drought vulnerable region of the world for millennia, our
society seems to have collective amnesia about the utility, efficiency,
sustainability and beauty of these time-tried practices.

In his newly published book, Rainwater Harvesting for Drylands, Volume 1, 
Brad Lancaster encourages us to turn water scarcity into water abundance by 
welcoming rain into our lives, landscape, and soil. Sharing techniques and 
strategies from around the world, some ancient, some new---including the 
inspiring story of Mr.Phiri, water farmer from Zimbabwe---readers are 
empowered to create their own integrated water-sustainable landscape plans.

Rainwater harvesting is the process of capturing rain and making the most 
of it as close as possible to where it falls. By harvesting rainwater on
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yarrow | 1 Jun 2006 06:12

shady edibles, was Re: soil amending

>My new "plan" is to start leaving
>compost around the edges of the yard, in case I ever learn what edible
>perrenials might grow in clay soil/shade. Meanwhile, I love learning this
>stuff for someday when I become a real farmer.  Kathy in St. Louis

Kathy,
We're doing a shade edibles demo garden at the community garden, 
where we have grown -- in zone 9 -- arugula (annual, but reseeds 
easily), cilantro, parsley, celery, lettuces, and (for edible 
flowers) calendula, borage, and rose. This area is in high shade and 
gets a few hours of sun.

In my garden, I have lemon balm, strawberries, alpine strawberries, 
bolivian sunroot, currants, yerba buena, broccoli, cabbage, kale, 
collards, artichokes, cardoon, garlic chives, celery, parsley, red 
onion, mullein, calendula, nasturtium, and more in the shadier area 
(high shade, gets about 3-4 hours of direct sun). Last year 2 cherry 
tomato plants did well there, and a volunteer winter squash took over 
the whole area and produced a lot.

Here are a few more suggestions. Try a few things and see what does 
well! Some plants that are listed as "full sun" will still grow well 
in high shade or dappled shade, though they may produce less than 
they would in full sun.

http://www.rickharrison.com/texts/info/shade_tolerant.html
Shade Tolerant Vegetables (and Fruits)

It depends on your climate, soil, and what kind of shade you have. Is 
it solid shade cast by a large building, or dappled shade cast by
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hannah brumerskyj | 1 Jun 2006 06:42
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Re: hardy banannas

I think the sugar banana or lady's finger is a mit more towards the hardy end. I know it grows well in Sydney
Australia, but not sure how it would go in frost. It usually fruits the second year I think, so if it kep dying
off that wouldn't be much good.
  Hannah

Forest Garden <forestgarden@...> wrote:
  Speaking of banannas...

Anyone have any insight into varieites of banannas that are more hardy? The
zone I live in fluctuates between zone 7- 9. I don't mind doing some work
to protect from cold, but am looking for as cold hardy a variety as possible
just in case (you know how you don't always get around to all those chores
you hope to?).

Sincerely,

Marjory

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Lawrence F. London, Jr. | 1 Jun 2006 07:13

Peak oil, ethanol production, energy production through waste recycing


Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack, Democrat, excellent potential presidential candidate (possible Kerry running
mate) mentioned 
tonight on the Tavis Smiley talk show on PBS that Iowa is 2nd in the nation in ethanol production and near that
in 
biodiesel fuel. Considering the cost of production of either, in-the-field costs, storage, processing
and distribution 
and all other costs associated with production, and following energy, environmental and economic audit
trails out to the 
limits I wonder how much hard won net gain there is. If you're going to lower demand for oil, decrease
pollution and 
contribute less to global warming and get serious about it I would think there needs to be a re-think about
waste 
management and make it part of the energy equation, i.e. stop the waste of waste. CNN has a video newsclip on
recycling 
cow manure as vehicle fuel. If the public could be pursuaded to stop dumping things they shouldn't into the
waste stream
(npi) then municipal sewage could be processed in natural systems within which vast biofuel and ethanol
crops could be 
grown. How can this be so difficult? Agricultural livestock waste would be even easier to convert into many
useful 
products: biogas, livestock protein source (sawfly maggots), compost and worm castings for sustainable
farms, paper,
wood, the growing of ornamental plants, reforestation, erosion control and windbreak plant material,
landscape nursery 
stock and again, biofuel and ethanol production, to name just a few. This use of such a valuable source of
nutrients and 
humus could make it possible to have vast permaculture plant nurseries providing material for road and
highway 
plantings, parkland, farm and range land and to help stabilize wild areas and reduce the impact of or
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J Kolenovsky | 1 Jun 2006 07:41
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developers cutting down old growth trees

What do you guys do or say in an urban situation like this? I was in 
another state nursing my wife in ICU for 2 months when this action happened.

A tear down 1 story sold behind us and the developer did the work. They 
took out an 80 foot Pecan tree that had probably been there since 
1930's. The tree was 1 of 2 planted in that area of the block. It 
provided great cooling from the west afternoon sun. A neighbors wife ran 
out there and tried to stop the men and they said the tree is within 12 
feet of the proposed new 2 story brick mansion (a 4000 sg. ft house on a 
50' X 100' lot).  They said that is city code. That's funny. The tree 
which was behind me looked like it had been on the rear easement for the 
past 45 years that I lived here and watched it grow. What a habitat 
loss. In the winter, many migratory birds would rest in it.
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Kathy Evans | 1 Jun 2006 14:39
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Re: Peak oil, ethanol production, energy production through waste recycing

Regarding Lawrence's comments about biodiesel and ethanol production in
Iowa....I learned in my required 7th grade conservation class in Iowa in
the sixties that 1/4th of the richest land in the world was in the Midwest,
esp. Illinois and (of course) Iowa. It disturbs my soul that so much of
this rich black dirt is used to grow fuel or to feed livestock. Doesn't
make sense. Maybe 3% of the corn grown in the Tall Corn State goes to feed
humans, not to mention the monoculture problem. Yes, politicians should
include and highlight the programs you mentioned, along with a nod to
biodiversity.  Kathy
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mIEKAL aND | 1 Jun 2006 17:16
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List of Colleges offering Perm or Sustainable Systems degrees

Anyone know if there is a current list online of colleges &  
universities which offer accredited permaculture or sustainable  
systems degrees?   I seem to remember seeing something like this at  
one point but I can't seem to pull anything comprehensive up.

~mIEKAL
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Lisa in Oregon | 1 Jun 2006 18:37
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Re: Tagasaste

My seeds germinated very easily, almost 100%, with both boiling water 
and nicking the seed case (I'm not very skilled at hard to start
seeds).
Per Mollison and Holmgren it seems like the perfect plant, but none of 
the plants survived in our conditions :-(

Lisa in Ashland Oregon

> > > I have a small amount of seeds and if you have any experience
> starting
> or
> > > propagating please add that in.

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Lawrence F. London, Jr. | 1 Jun 2006 20:21

Rick Valley, bamboo expert & grower - still online?


Is Rick Valley still around? Last I heard he was in Oregon somewhere
and at one time had a bamboo nursery? Anyone who remembers him from years past in this PC list
know how he is doing?

Thanks,

Lawrence
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