FDA Should Rescind Cloning Support!

(I normally don't send things from the company I work for thru the 
lists, but this latest blasphemy from the FDA is much too doomsday 
scenario to ignore.  The important thing here is to send a letter to 
your congress person.  If you do not want to get further mailings from 
Organic Valley remember to uncheck the Farm Friends box-- mIEKAL)

FDA Should Rescind Cloning Support!

Once man-made species are introduced into the environment there is no 
"calling them back."  Whether it's genetically engineered crops cross 
pollinating with wild weeds, genetically modified salmon breeding with 
wild fish, or future concerns with cloned mammals, the risks to the 
balance in ecosystems worldwide are great.   American families should 
not be guinea pigs for corporate greed! Contrary to what the F.D.A. 
says, there is no level of 'acceptable risk' when it comes to putting 
unproven science on the table for dinner.

"By allowing foods from cloned animals into the food system without 
proof of their long-term effects on human, animal and environmental 
health, the F.D.A. is not protecting the consumer. The F.D.A. is 
furthering their support of the abhorrent attempt by corporate 
interests to control the genes of our citizenry," warned George Siemon, 
CEO of Organic Valley. Send an email from the Farm Friends Action 
Center now demanding that the FDA change their position!

http://farmfriends.organicvalley.com/action/index.asp?step=2&item=12731

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Privatizing water in Bolivia by US corporations

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Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 23:13:47 -0800
From: Margaret <booldawgs@...>
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I am a lurker on this list but I cannot imagine a subject of more concern
to a gardener than water.  Everyone should do some research on what is
happening concerning privatization of water in this country.  Dependence on
oil is nothing compared to dependence on water.

The Owens Valley in Eastern California was a beautiful green area with
farms and orchards before the water rights were bought and the water was
sent east to turn the LA desert into a city.  I believe that was done by
Mulholland (sp?), one of the early developers of Los Angeles. Very
interesting story.

A Google search for "T. Boone Pickens" the notorious corporate raider of
the 1980s will give you an idea of  how water may be bought and sold in our
near future.Texas newspapers and farm and ranch magazines have numerous
articles concerning the aquifers there.

I haven't read the letter concerning Bolivia but Mesa Oil and Mesa Water
should be watched by all of us.  My husband was with a company that was
almost bankrupted by Pickens in the 80s.
Margaret- back to lurking

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Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:

> The Owens Valley in Eastern California was a beautiful green area with
> farms and orchards before the water rights were bought and the water was
> sent east to turn the LA desert into a city.  I believe that was done by
> Mulholland (sp?), one of the early developers of Los Angeles. Very
> interesting story.

The movie "Chinatown" with Jack Nicholson in the leading role, was about that.

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Simon Henderson - Bamboo People - Permaculture with bamboo article

Greetings,

A while ago, I found an article by Simon Henderson in which he discussed the
use of bamboo as an element/function in Permaculture. This article was found
through a inactive Australian Website. Does anyone know of this article or
Simon's email? The Bamboo People website is inactive

Thank you very much.

Best regards,

João Paulo Freire Paglione
(BBF) Bamboo Brazil Foundation
(FBB) Fundação BambuBrasil
www.bambubrasil.org
www.watertree.net/bambubrasil (BETA testing TikiWiki, dynamic content
management system)

Re: Simon Henderson - Bamboo People - Permaculture with bamboo article

Joao Paglione wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> A while ago, I found an article by Simon Henderson in which he discussed the
> use of bamboo as an element/function in Permaculture. This article was found
> through a inactive Australian Website. Does anyone know of this article or
> Simon's email? The Bamboo People website is inactive
> 
> Thank you very much.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> João Paulo Freire Paglione
> (BBF) Bamboo Brazil Foundation
> (FBB) Fundação BambuBrasil
> www.bambubrasil.org
> www.watertree.net/bambubrasil (BETA testing TikiWiki, dynamic content
> management system)

I fould the following in the archives for this permaculture list:
http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/permaculture/
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Simon Henderson  simonh@...
Sat, 24 Aug 1996 12:22:31 -0600

Friends of Permaculture...

Simon Henderson and his fellows in Bamboo People, Daphne Lewis and Stuart
Brune are hosting an open house at our Bamboo Research Station at Coyote
Ranch near Stanwood, WA, USA Sunday, September 8th, 1996; 10:00a.m. TO
5:30Pp.m. It is our one-year celebration.

Nothing like this has ever been done to this extent. Yes; we stand on the
shoulders of giants. We are giants in that we have put our money where our
ideology and commmittment is. Come see bamboo woven into the web of
agroforestry and vision.

Meet bambusero farmers, musicians, poets and craftspeople

Come feast, work and celebrate with us...It's free...like it should be....

Simon Henderson
30816 3rd Ave. N.E.
Stanwood, WA 98292
Phone:(360) 626-6160
Email: simonh@...
Website: http//www.highway99.com/bamboo

Simon Henderson
Bamboo People

 > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:29:42 -0600
 > From: simonh@... (Simon Henderson)
 > Please add our website to your list of sustainable/permaculture information
 > sites.  Our webpage is:
 > http://www.highway99.com/bamboo
 > Our nonprofit organization is Bamboo People, devoted to the sustainable use
 > and cuture of bamboo as a food and fiber plant.
 > Thank you,
 > Simon Henderson
 > Simon Henderson
 > Bamboo People

Milogic@...  Milogic <at> aol.com
Sat, 5 Oct 1996 15:06:18 -0400
Simon Henderson, Daphne Lewis and Stuart Brune do Bamboo People, Stuart at
206 788-5292, Daphne at 206 781-1437 and Simon <simonh@...>. Simon and
Daphne are off to sourthern Mexico at the moment, I think. Bamboo People are
developing larger scale bamboo plantings, publishings and teachings. Simon is
a very competent permaculture design consultant and outstanding teacher.
Milo Clark
http://www.swans.com

Milogic@...  Milogic <at> aol.com
Sat, 14 Sep 1996 14:02:43 -0400

Rama,

In response to your inquiry about the proposed bamboo identification manual
which we hope INBAR will spearhead: some tentative thoughts--

A major task for the world bamboo communities is to develop appropriate
infrastructure to support the long processes which will put bamboo more
strongly into local and, perhaps, world resource calculations. As with any
resource, immense work is involved. Look how many years it took to develop
that gooey black ooze into petrochemicals--not that that particular
development process is a meaningful model for bamboo.

The history of the Philippines, common to nearly all nations colonized by
western imperialists, shows almost 500 years during which the pre-existing
norms were ripped out and displaced by the conquering western cultures. Those
processes may now be coming to some logical conclusions thereby opening more
possibilites for past and present locally-based ways to influence a better
future.

I hope that developing bamboo as a more widely used resource will consist
more of adapting local processes to contemporary local needs than
substitutions within primarily western-oriented or export products for now
depleted other resources such as wood.

It is within this context that the recent First National Conference on Bamboo
in the Philippines acquires added significance in my view. I note that this
conference was an outgrowth of the Bali World Bamboo Congress in 1995. We,
individually and collectively, are building and expanding on the work done by
INBAR and the other bamboo organizations.

The existence of a dynamically expanding set of related format
INBAR-sponsored publications or manuals would be a significant step in the
direction of determining and then actualizing the potential of bamboo as a
contemporary resource. A first effort naturally would be some sort of
identification manual. I would hope that the manual developed will break the
bonds of purely scientific or taxonomic considerations. I would hope that the
listing and depiction of each identified bamboo would also include listing
and depiction of uses and utliizations of that bamboo as they are known and
naming where, the specific areas, within which that use is known.

 >From western perspectives, we also have works such as the University of
Stuttgart's IL31 within which considerable detail is available on bamboo
utilizations, albeit primarily archetectural. A volume belongs in the bamboo
set which collects the archetectural and building experiences in Colombia,
Costa Rica, the Philippines, Indonesia, India, China and elsewhere both west
and east where bamboo is being used effectively in today's terms. Another
volume which concentrated on the myriad utilitarian uses of bamboo as tools
and aids to living is sugggested. Still another which focuses on arts and
crafts uses would be appreciated. A fine arts history and appreciation of the
highest artistic and spiritual contexts for bamboo would cap such as set or
series.

Probably optimal publications would incorporate the heart of David Farrelly's
work, the pragmatics of one like "Joe" Caasi of the Philippines and the
academic details of the taxonomists all rolled up into physically tough
handbooks for workshop, laboratory, home and field. A tall order and one
which bamboo fully merits.

As Richard Waters, American Bamboo Society chair on arts and crafts, likes to
point out, "Bamboo is more than just a plant." Of course, one major
difficulty here in the US and to differing degrees elsewhere is availability
of bamboo to use and to utilize. People like Simon Henderson and Daphne Lewis
of Bamboo People in Washington state along with an expanding number of others
who are involved in larger scale growing of bamboo are exemplars moving to
increase supply, to advance practical knowledge and to provide training. The
pragmatic Joe Caasi's of the bamboo world need as much or more coverage than
the more academic approaches. Establishing a regenerating and diverse supply
of bamboos adequate for projected demands is as necessary as understanding
tensile strength and other important technical issues.

All of the bamboo advancement processes are of the systems nature of
"both/and" and "and/and"; that is, complementary, inclusive and open. We are
all parts of the global system expanding feedback loops and thereby
participating in important aspects of rebalancing the planet. Bamboo is a
prime example of the negentropic or anti-entropic qualities available in
nature. Working to understand, to expand and to actualize those natural
qualities is a challenge worthy of poet and pragmatist.

The pragmatics of a publication challenge such as a manual or set of manuals
focusing on 1) identification/taxonomy; 2) pragmatics of growing bamboo and
3) uses and utilizations of bamboo are immensely complex. For example,
Richard Waters is advocating expanding the ABS Source List to include
suitable uses for each particular bamboo and then to add in the sources
section the names of people and companies who are using them or have cut
culms or pieces of that particular bamboo for sale. I hear rumors and get
snatches of tantilizing information about bamboo efforts in Australia and
other countries which merit some kind of followup beyond my resources. To
have references related to supplies of particular bamboos being developed for
particular uses in distant places would be a significant inclusion for a
basic manual.

To begin dealing with the pragmatics, I would advocate designing a strategy
for the publishing program in terms of end-users. Part of that strategic
design is identifying audiences both apparent and peripheral to the stated
purposes of the publications--which I would see ever expanding in scope
myself. The collected database would then have multiple uses and spread the
expenses across more publications. The entire effort would necessarily be
seen as on-going with expansions, new editions and widening audience
possibilities all focusing on bamboo as more than just a plant.

The narrower the enduser definitions, the narrower the possibilities for
securing financial as well as other participation. For example, given the
popularity of David Farrelly's book, now in second printing, a broader based
strategic concept or vision, if you will, involving a set of publications on
bamboo may be more likely to attract a publisher's advance funding. Another
possibility is to attract other forms of advances in terms of 1) equity
participation in a for-profit publishing venture to which INBAR and others
involved would be contractors, 2) grant funding from private or NGO
organizations or 3) governmental participation in the publishing projects.
The world's bamboo societies represent a fourth possible funds source. The
process of planning and executing an integrated plan for such a project is
one also involving relatively sophisticated skills. With volunteers carrying
such projects the risk is getting exactly what is paid for. An approach
looking for the best of all possiblities will craft a significant mix of
volunteers, enthusiasts, professionals and, fundings.

While there is a large role for volunteer participation in research and, to a
degree, data gathering; I suspect that the scope of the project (at least as
I would visualize it and urge) will demand some very strong professional
participation in design of data organization and information collection as
well as the actual database development involved in a project with staggering
amounts of widely scattered information most likely in incompatible formats
as well as languages.

When the relevant data for the intitial publication spectifications are
finally assembled in some manageable format and availability (which today
demands powerful computer and data storage capacity), then the equally
formidable task of intregrating, selecting, writing and graphic presentation
begins. With that in progress, another parallel process involves the design
and layout of the publications. The pre-press processes are another major
task now largely undertaken with powerful programs and computer-based
graphics capacities as well as capabilities. This kind of existing
capabilities for such tasks is seen, in the US, with Time-Life Books,
Smithsonian Books, Sierra Club Books and numerous others who have staff and
technology in-being or strong contractors with the equipment, staff and
experience. Major academic-based presses also possess the relevent skill
bases to manage such a project.

If my recent Philippine experience is any guide, had I depended entirely on
the conventional in-country sources primarily from academic and scientific
institutions, I would have missed a great deal as well as learning a great
deal. I believe it is immensely important to understand the cultural and
societal situations, micro-economic contexts and micro-climatic influences
which largely determine the socio-economic actualities of bamboo in a
particular area. One matter which always impresses me is the range of
differences which evolve in island areas compared with continental areas. The
evolution of bamboo in the Philippines is quite different f rom what I saw in
Indonesia. To project to the general from the specific based on one country's
or one geographic region's experience can lead to misleading expectations.
For example, what worked for Joe Caasi in Davao, Mindanao did not work in
Santa Cruz, Laguna, Luzon--not two hundred miles away. And the principles
involved were similar enough that he could successfully recognize the
differences and compensate for them. The learning there, at least for me, is
to understand the principles as including significant room for variation and
difference so that rigidity is avoided in practice. That is, there is no
"right" way to grow or to use bamboo in any particular place or application.
There are many "right" ways and the more we know about more of them, the
better off we are.

I am suggesting thereby that independent field work can also produce
important data which might otherwise be overlooked. Similar opportunities
were present in Bali where Linda Garland's efforts added dimensions which
might otherwise have been unavailable. I am sorry that my time committments
and funds limitations kept me from extended visits to other Indonesian
islands and areas. From all the scattered information which dribbles in
through participation in conferences, books, magazines and such; I am aware
of myraid research opportunities which would fit into a coordinated set of
bamboo publications aimed at a broadening audience for bamboo information as
well as suggestions and directions for growing and using this wonderful plant
resource.

The openings becoming available through the bamboo families developing from
internet contacts cannot be over-emphasized. These media are, in spite of the
exaggeration, frustrations and learning curves involved, simply magnificent.

In terms of people who might contribute to the committee, I would suggest you
pay appropriate homage to the academics and scientists and, in parallel,
search for people with publishing and marketing skills to carry the balance
when positive votes are needed.

Right now I would hope for some strong visionary leadership to get this
effort going.

Milo Clark

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