Re: Iraq report -NGO/ media

Darren and Russ

Thought you might be interested in this article by Andrew Jones from 
our last Seeds of Change eNewsletter. He discusses his Pc work with 
Geoff Lawton in a refugee camp in Macedonia. Pretty fascinating whatt 
they could accomplish in a short time. I hear that Andrew is in Iraq 
now as well.

http://www.seedsofchange.com/enewsletter/issue_34/permaculture.asp

Peace,
Scott Vlaun

On Sunday, June 29, 2003, at 10:39  PM, Russ Grayson wrote:

> Hi Darren...
> On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 10:38  PM, Darren J. Doherty wrote:
>
>> Russ,
>> Isn’t Geoff Lawton heading that way!!
>
> Yes, I have heard that he is off to Iraq... though I don't know for 
> whom he is going there or what he is to do.
>
>>  

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Re: Scythes and similar devices

Sharon Gordon wrote:
> I'd appreciate some suggestions for a good quality scythe or similar cutting
> device.

Scythe Supply - see reference below:

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RE: Iraq report -NGO/ media

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Re: A Permaculture Curriculum

> John said:
> > PERMACULTURE TEACHER TRAINING
> > ...We also use and provide to participants a
> > copy of "A Permaculture Curriculum", our 200-page guide to effective
> > permaculture teaching that features great exercises from dozens of
> > permaculture teachers.
>
> Is this guide available for purchase?  If so, how and how much?

At the moment, the permaculture curriculum is in incomplete draft form even
though there is already a wealth of information in it. Christopher Peck and
I hope to someday raise the additional $10K to finish this, and it would
then be great to get it published, but other priorities currently engage our
energies. Given this status, we feel comfortable sharing it only as part of
our teacher trainings, as it is shared as a work in progress for our
students to then test and provide feedback, in essence continuing the
development of the curriculum.

Michael Kramer
www.NaturalInvesting.com

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Re: Scythes and similar devices

Hi Sharon,

For the last year, I've been using a European style scythe from Scythe 
Supply in Perry, Maine. It's an amazing tool. I have two actually. I 
keep a short blade (20") on one for general brush and grass clearing, 
and a longer (32") blade for mowing soft grass and clover in a small 
field. I've literally parked the power mower.

They buy the blades from Europe, but make custom make their own Snaths 
to your measurements from local ash. Their package comes with a nice 
stone with holder.  The scythe works best if you touch up the blade for 
a few seconds every 15 minutes or so to keep it razor sharp.

They also have other cutting implements and accessories.

http://www.scythesupply.com/index.html.

Good Luck,

Scott Vlaun

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Re: Iraq report -NGO/ media

Aloha,

Great article.  Good to read about this kind of work being done and the
designers getting asked by UN heavies, military, etc. to do more.

Too bad this sort of thing doesn't make the 6 o'clock network news, eh?

The best part IMO is that he shows, from on-the-ground experience, how
meeting immediate/crisis needs *can* (could have been, in this case) be
integrated with implementing longer-term elements (here, for example,
bulldozing those flood-ending water-infiltrating swales the first time
around, had people with the basic design skills been on the job).

Scott Vlaun said:
> Darren and Russ
>
> Thought you might be interested in this article by Andrew Jones from
> our last Seeds of Change eNewsletter. He discusses his Pc work with
> Geoff Lawton in a refugee camp in Macedonia. Pretty fascinating whatt
> they could accomplish in a short time. I hear that Andrew is in Iraq
> now as well.
>
> http://www.seedsofchange.com/enewsletter/issue_34/permaculture.asp
>

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Re: Walled Communities

Aloha,

> Ted's ideas on integrating the suburbs are good but probably
> unachievable, given contemporary attitudes to property and cooperation.

There are counterexamples.  One such is N Street Cohousing in Davis, CA, USA:

http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/go/nstreet/

Another (hardcore urban) example is the Los Angeles Ecovillage:

http://www.ic.org/laev/

The most 'popular', or at least most visible manifestation of alternatives
to industrial housing production in the USA seems to be cohousing
projects.  I'm guessing they are close enough to 'normal' to attract a
wide variety of people and 'different' enough to appeal to people who want
a bit more of a community-oriented option other than the usual generic
tract house, condo or apartment.

> What works against this in Australian cities at the present time is the
> escalating cost of property, especially in Sydney. This makes cost the
> major barrier to people entering the property market.

Our cultural attachment to land as (speculative) commodity is a
fundamental problem that IMO cannot be 'solved' short of cultural
redesign.  There are plenty of examples of cultures that had different
relatiings with the land they inhabited.  Land trusts are one already
existing approach.

Ecovillages I've heard of that are on the high end of the cost scale for
buy-in are sometimes there simply because of the high cost of land in
their location - they don't all have a 'gated community' mentality.

Some are there because founders/organizers have been through the process a
few times (unsuccessfully) and don't want to waste any more of their time
with people who have lots of talk but never actually contribute (whether
in money, sweat equity, whatever the options are).  One possible response
is to simply raise the up-front price bar.

And some, of course, want a walled community.  Which reminds me of another
interesting read that purports to be set in the 'future' but the future
depicted is mostly already here:

"Snow Crash," by Neal Stephenson

(the seminal cyberpunk novel...)

John Schinnerer, MA
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