g_keagle | 5 Nov 01:08 2009
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New Guy, 2nd try

 

INTRODUCTORY PROFILE

1. Which of the following best describes you? Please check one.

_X I own a car but use other forms of transport frequently

2. How long have you been either car-free or used non-automotive
transport as your principle means of transportation?

25+ years

3. What inspired your decision to reduce or end your reliance on the
automobile?

Fuel Cost

4. What factors have either impeded or inspired your decision to reduce
your reliance on automotive transport?

Improved Health

5. Has your transportational choices had any discernible effect on your
family and friends?

Yes

6. What are the advantages and disadvantages of being car-free and/or
getting around without using a car?

Many savings, good health

7. Do you typically feel comfortable recommending car-free living to
your friends and/or relatives?

Why or why not? Yes

8. Have you experienced any adverse consequences of reducing or
eliminating your automotive dependency with regard to time and finances?

No

9. Have there been any benefits?

Yes

10. In an ideal world, what role should the car play in the general
transportation system?

I know of no ideal world, thus I bike

11. Do you have any other personal or general thoughts you've care to
share on this topic?

Only those at the top of the page

12. Where do you live (city, state, country)?

Des Moines, IA USA

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John Mayson | 9 Nov 23:48 2009
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City Streets a Mortal Threat to Pedestrians

 
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Jym Dyer | 17 Nov 18:49 2009

Converting the U.S. Interstate to Passenger Rail

 

=v= Well, here's one approach to saving the planet:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/senexprime/4055072020/

(Click on "All Sizes" -- it's best experienced at 3000x1941)

=v= Oh, don't worry that this would be some sort of teabagger's
worst "Obamasocialist" nightmare. Warren Buffet is putting up
the cash. Woo hoo!!!
<_Jym_>

P.S.: For those inclined to "retweet": http://bit.ly/3WjQBD

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John Mayson | 18 Nov 19:10 2009
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Doctor killed jogging while visiting Orlando

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssHealthcareNews/idUSN173578520091117

You might remember a recent survey came out listing Orlando as the
most dangerous place for pedestrians.

John

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John Mayson <john <at> mayson.us>
Austin, Texas, USA

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George Keagle | 18 Nov 19:40 2009
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Re: Doctor killed jogging while visiting Orlando

 

Austin runs a close second.

Geo. Keagle

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You might remember a recent survey came out listing Orlando as the
most dangerous place for pedestrians.

John

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Austin, Texas, USA

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John T | 17 Nov 20:15 2009
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The Interstate Autobahn and Royal HIghway

 

Anything that kills like the Interstate, Autobahn or British Royal Highway needs a speed that it won't kill at or transfer from those who's speed is safe for the mind. What ever happen to "Love thy neighbor? I say thgis in lue of my preaching slow speeds, stickered vehicles and appreciation of all we have with lettters and proof for years.
John

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Christopher Miller | 25 Nov 17:18 2009
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Mass active transit a major means of combating health dangers of climate change

A story today in the Montreal Gazette cites a new medical study recommending "mass active transit" as one of
the most effective ways of improving public health and fending off dangers to public health from climate
change. 

The story, which appears in the Gazette and other press organs in the CanWest network, cites a study
published today in the medical journal the Lancet, part of a series on "Health and Climate Change". 

http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/Walking+biking+good+planet+study/2264373/story.html

The original paper can be read on The Lancet web site:

http://www.thelancet.com/series/health-and-climate-change

Search for "Public health benefits of strategies to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions: urban land
transport" about halfway down the page. 

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Walking, biking good for you and the planet: Study

BY MARGARET MUNRO, CANWEST NEWS SERVICENOVEMBER 25, 2009 10:22 AMBE THE FIRST TO POST A COMMENT

(photo)

(Caption: Pedestrians and cyclists should be made king of the urban jungle, according to an international
study showing the big benefits of "mass active travel.")
Photograph by: File, CNS

Pedestrians and cyclists should be made king of the urban jungle, according to an international study
showing the big benefits of "mass active travel."

It suggests money should be diverted way from roads to make walking and cycling "the most direct,
convenient, and pleasant options for most urban trips." Pedestrians and bikers should also get
"priority" over cars and trucks at intersections.

The study is one of six reports on the "health dividend" of combating climate change published in the
medical journal Lancet Wednesday.

The reports say that enormous changes are needed to slow global warming, but show that reducing carbon
dioxide emissions will be good for people's health. Millions of deaths could be averted by getting people
out of cars, breathing cleaner air and eating healthier food.

Public health researchers and leaders issued the reports in a bid to get the message across to world leaders
and negotiators heading to next month’s climate talks in Copenhagen.

"Sadly, policy-makers have been slow to recognize that the real bottom line of climate change is its risk to
human health and quality of life," Dr. Margaret Chan, director general of the World Health Organization,
says in a commentary with the studies.

She says the threats to public health are real: Climate change is expected to increase malnutrition, and
its "devastating effects" on child health, worsen floods, droughts, storms and heat waves, and alter the
geographical distribution of insects that spread malaria and dengue.

"The issue now is not whether climate change is occurring, but how we can respond most effectively," says Chan.

The up-side, say Chan and the researchers, is that some carbon-reduction strategies could result in major
health improvements.

Simple measures to improve household energy efficiency could have huge benefits, according to one study
that looked at polluting indoor cook stoves widely used in low-income countries.

Replacing the stoves with low-emissions stove technology that costs $50 US per household has the
potential to "avert millions of premature deaths and hundreds of millions of tonnes of CO2-equivalent
greenhouse pollutants," says the study led by Dr. Paul Wilkinson at the London School of Hygiene and
Tropical Medicine.

It found a 10-year program to introduce 150 million efficient, low-emission cooking stoves in India could
by 2020 prevent 240,000 children under age five from dying of acute lower respiratory infections and more
than 1.8 million premature adult deaths from heart disease and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

Reducing the use of coal to produce electricity would also have "co-benefits," a second study reports.
Carbon emissions wafting into the atmosphere would be reduced along with particulate air pollutants
linked to lung cancer, and acute respiratory and cardio-respiratory illnesses. The researchers say
that by 2030 "decarbonizing" electricity production could prevent an estimated 93,000 premature
deaths in India, another 57,000 in China and 5,000 in the European Union.

The urban transportation study says encouraging more walking and cycling would have big benefits for both
health and the climate. It compared different transportation scenarios for London and Delhi. Walking
and cycling came out on top even when compared to increased use of low-emission vehicles that are widely
touted as "green" solutions.

"Important health gains and reductions in CO2 emissions can be achieved through replacement of urban
trips in private motor vehicles with active travel in high-income and middle-income countries,” the
researchers conclude.

They suggest policy-makers divert investment away from roads and toward provision of infrastructure for
pedestrians and cyclists. They suggest motor vehicles be slowed down and more strictly controlled,
while pedestrians and bikers should have direct routes with priority at intersections, to "increase in
the safety, convenience, and comfort of walking and cycling."

© Copyright (c) Canwest News Service

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Christopher Miller
Montreal QC  Canada

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George Keagle | 25 Nov 21:58 2009
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Re: Mass active transit a major means of combating health dangers of climate change

 

Anybody who knows me will recognize I agree wholeheartedly with the concept of encouraging individuals to exercise. In fact I just left a meeting with children concerning my plan to eliminate my cars and rely on biking (which I've done for many years), bus system and car rental when necessary.

But leave employees of civil government** out of it. I don't want government to steal from you or anybody else ("tax") to provide me with better trails or sidewalks.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/giles/giles36.1.html

Samarami

** "Governments" do not exist. Government employees exist. Forget the slogan "we are a nation of laws, not men...". Sheer poppycock.

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From: Christopher Miller <christophermiller <at> mac.com>
To: carfree_cities <at> yahoogroups.com; CarFree <at> yahoogroups.com
Cc: Christopher Ray Miller <christophermiller <at> mac.com>
Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 10:18:30 AM
Subject: [CF] Mass active transit a major means of combating health dangers of climate change

A story today in the Montreal Gazette cites a new medical study recommending "mass active transit" as one of the most effective ways of improving public health and fending off dangers to public health from climate change.

The story, which appears in the Gazette and other press organs in the CanWest network, cites a study published today in the medical journal the Lancet, part of a series on "Health and Climate Change".

http://www.montrealgazette.com/health/Walking+biking+good+planet+study/2264373/story.html

The original paper can be read on The Lancet web site:

http://www.thelancet.com/series/health-and-climate-change

Search for "Public health benefits of strategies to reduce greenhouse-gas emissions: urban land transport" about halfway down the page.

=========================================================

Walking, biking good for you and the planet: Study

BY MARGARET MUNRO, CANWEST NEWS SERVICENOVEMBER 25, 2009 10:22 AMBE THE FIRST TO POST A COMMENT

(photo)

(Caption: Pedestrians and cyclists should be made king of the urban jungle, according to an international study showing the big benefits of "mass active travel.")
Photograph by: File, CNS

Pedestrians and cyclists should be made king of the urban jungle, according to an international study showing the big benefits of "mass active travel."

It suggests money should be diverted way from roads to make walking and cycling "the most direct, convenient, and pleasant options for most urban trips." Pedestrians and bikers should also get "priority" over cars and trucks at intersections.

The study is one of six reports on the "health dividend" of combating climate change published in the medical journal Lancet Wednesday.

The reports say that enormous changes are needed to slow global warming, but show that reducing carbon dioxide emissions will be good for people's health. Millions of deaths could be averted by getting people out of cars, breathing cleaner air and eating healthier food.

Public health researchers and leaders issued the reports in a bid to get the message across to world leaders and negotiators heading to next month’s climate talks in Copenhagen.

"Sadly, policy-makers have been slow to recognize that the real bottom line of climate change is its risk to human health and quality of life," Dr. Margaret Chan, director general of the World Health Organization, says in a commentary with the studies.

She says the threats to public health are real: Climate change is expected to increase malnutrition, and its "devastating effects" on child health, worsen floods, droughts, storms and heat waves, and alter the geographical distribution of insects that spread malaria and dengue.

"The issue now is not whether climate change is occurring, but how we can respond most effectively," says Chan.

The up-side, say Chan and the researchers, is that some carbon-reduction strategies could result in major health improvements.

Simple measures to improve household energy efficiency could have huge benefits, according to one study that looked at polluting indoor cook stoves widely used in low-income countries.

Replacing the stoves with low-emissions stove technology that costs $50 US per household has the potential to "avert millions of premature deaths and hundreds of millions of tonnes of CO2-equivalent greenhouse pollutants," says the study led by Dr. Paul Wilkinson at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine.

It found a 10-year program to introduce 150 million efficient, low-emission cooking stoves in India could by 2020 prevent 240,000 children under age five from dying of acute lower respiratory infections and more than 1.8 million premature adult deaths from heart disease and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

Reducing the use of coal to produce electricity would also have "co-benefits," a second study reports. Carbon emissions wafting into the atmosphere would be reduced along with particulate air pollutants linked to lung cancer, and acute respiratory and cardio-respiratory illnesses. The researchers say that by 2030 "decarbonizing" electricity production could prevent an estimated 93,000 premature deaths in India, another 57,000 in China and 5,000 in the European Union.

The urban transportation study says encouraging more walking and cycling would have big benefits for both health and the climate. It compared different transportation scenarios for London and Delhi. Walking and cycling came out on top even when compared to increased use of low-emission vehicles that are widely touted as "green" solutions.

"Important health gains and reductions in CO2 emissions can be achieved through replacement of urban trips in private motor vehicles with active travel in high-income and middle-income countries,” the researchers conclude.

They suggest policy-makers divert investment away from roads and toward provision of infrastructure for pedestrians and cyclists. They suggest motor vehicles be slowed down and more strictly controlled, while pedestrians and bikers should have direct routes with priority at intersections, to "increase in the safety, convenience, and comfort of walking and cycling."

© Copyright (c) Canwest News Service

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Christopher Miller
Montreal QC Canada

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Christopher Miller | 25 Nov 22:26 2009
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Re: Mass active transit a major means of combating health dangers of climate change

 

Funny. I don't remember seeing posts from you previously about governments "stealing" money from us (after we vote for them) to provide us with car-centred infrastructure.

We are not atomic individuals, we are all members of organised societies. The only way to organise societies more or less in the *public* interest as opposed to allowing powerful private individuals to control all in their own interest is through socialised politics, i.e. democratic government. People who use "socialism" as a "dirty word" to refer to things done in the general public interest are being silly (to use a far too mild term).

End of my contribution to discussion of your post, which I find pointless as a reaction to the original piece of news, which is a welcome attempt to encourage public policy that will mitigate the effects of anthropogenic gloal warming, which - like it or not - is established beyond serious doubt, not something that is the subject of debate among reputable scientists. Period.

On 2009-11-25, at 3:58 PM, George Keagle wrote:

> Anybody who knows me will recognize I agree wholeheartedly with the concept of encouraging individuals to exercise. In fact I just left a meeting with children concerning my plan to eliminate my cars and rely on biking (which I've done for many years), bus system and car rental when necessary.
>
> But leave employees of civil government** out of it. I don't want government to steal from you or anybody else ("tax") to provide me with better trails or sidewalks.
>
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/giles/giles36.1.html
>
> Samarami
>
> ** "Governments" do not exist. Government employees exist. Forget the slogan "we are a nation of laws, not men...". Sheer poppycock.
>
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>
>

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George Keagle | 25 Nov 22:30 2009
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Re: Mass active transit a major means of combating health dangers of climate change

 

My mantra is simply: exercise. Leave government out of exercise.

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Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 3:26:02 PM
Subject: Re: [CF] Mass active transit a major means of combating health dangers of climate change

Funny. I don't remember seeing posts from you previously about governments "stealing" money from us (after we vote for them) to provide us with car-centred infrastructure.

We are not atomic individuals, we are all members of organised societies. The only way to organise societies more or less in the *public* interest as opposed to allowing powerful private individuals to control all in their own interest is through socialised politics, i.e. democratic government. People who use "socialism" as a "dirty word" to refer to things done in the general public interest are being silly (to use a far too mild term).

End of my contribution to discussion of your post, which I find pointless as a reaction to the original piece of news, which is a welcome attempt to encourage public policy that will mitigate the effects of anthropogenic gloal warming, which - like it or not - is established beyond serious doubt, not something that is the subject of debate among reputable scientists. Period.

On 2009-11-25, at 3:58 PM, George Keagle wrote:

> Anybody who knows me will recognize I agree wholeheartedly with the concept of encouraging individuals to exercise. In fact I just left a meeting with children concerning my plan to eliminate my cars and rely on biking (which I've done for many years), bus system and car rental when necessary.
>
> But leave employees of civil government** out of it. I don't want government to steal from you or anybody else ("tax") to provide me with better trails or sidewalks.
>
> http://www.lewrockwell.com/giles/giles36.1.html
>
> Samarami
>
> ** "Governments" do not exist. Government employees exist. Forget the slogan "we are a nation of laws, not men...". Sheer poppycock.
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
>

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