Exploring issues related to eliminating or reducing one's reliance on automotive transport.

Colin Leath | 2 Jan 2004 02:57

Lords of the Chainring by Adam Katzman

You all might like this:
http://homepage.mac.com/mkatzman/Adam's_Reel/iMovieTheater115.html

http://carfreeuniverse.org/Members/colin/LOC
Much shorter, and in some ways much better than LotR
(which I never saw). 5 min long or so. (Spoilage
warning: don't read the next sentence!) Well-stuffed
superheroes, a damsel in distress, a villainous
car-driver, and the requisite car-bashing. And I was
able to dowload it in a short time even over a modem
connection!

Colin
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Renegade Buddha | 3 Jan 2004 18:05

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Virginia | 4 Jan 2004 03:38

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why carfree

i have a very hard time explaining why i choose to be carfree to 
people.  it seems to be just in me, what i believe in, the lifestyle 
i choose.  it's difficult for me to persuade or even explain this.  i 
talk about the environment and freedoms and stress, but those 
arguments never phase people blinded by the need to drive and the 
need for everything to be convienient and immediate. (esp. in the 
motor city - where i'm currently living)
so i'm just looking for some help - websites, arguments, etc - to 
help me explain to people a little better about being carfree.
thanks
Virginia

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De Clarke | 4 Jan 2004 05:04

Re: why carfree

Virginia (jinxy1279@...) wrote:
> so i'm just looking for some help - websites, arguments, etc - to 
> help me explain to people a little better about being carfree.

I humbly offer

	http://www.ucolick.org/~de/AltTrans

where there are many links to other folks' sites.  I'm behind on
error corrections and link updates, but most of them should be
OK.

de

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Gene Edinger | 4 Jan 2004 19:48

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Re: why carfree

--- In CarFree@..., "Virginia" <jinxy1279 <at> y...> wrote:
> i have a very hard time explaining why i choose to be carfree to 
> people.  it seems to be just in me, what i believe in, the 
lifestyle 
> i choose.  it's difficult for me to persuade or even explain 
this.  i 
> talk about the environment and freedoms and stress, but those 
> arguments never phase people blinded by the need to drive and the 
> need for everything to be convienient and immediate. (esp. in the 
> motor city - where i'm currently living)
> so i'm just looking for some help - websites, arguments, etc - to 
> help me explain to people a little better about being carfree.

My reasons for maintaining a carfree existence can be enumerated ad 
nauseam on the basis of internal versus external costs.  For those 
interested, a cogent explanation of price and internal/external 
costs is presented in Garrett Hardin's _EXPLORING NEW ETHICS FOR 
SURVIVAL_ but most people whom I encounter want more concrete 
reasons for my disdain of the auto culture.   I'm sure that many on 
this list can provide additional reasons.  Here is just one of my 
(to me) nontrivial reasons:

In Tucson, one advantage to remain carfree is that I'm, 
essentially,  panhandler-free.  While on my bike, I've had brief 
cordial conversations with (unfortunately) ubiquitous panhandlers 
while waiting for traffic lights to change.  Never, have I been 
asked for a contribution.  

Unfortunately, I assumed the role of taxi driver (in my parents' 
car) for a few elderly people last week.  Upon letting my riders off

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RIIN GILL | 5 Jan 2004 01:09

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Re: why carfree

On Sat, 3 Jan 2004, De Clarke wrote:

> I humbly offer
>
> 	http://www.ucolick.org/~de/AltTrans

De, I love your lunchbox analogy.  :)  I can just see someone lugging
around a 25lb lunchbox...

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mgagnonlv | 5 Jan 2004 15:43

Re: why carfree

--- In CarFree@..., "Virginia" <jinxy1279 <at> y...> wrote:
> i have a very hard time explaining why i choose to be carfree to 
> people.  it seems to be just in me, what i believe in, the 
lifestyle 
> i choose.  it's difficult for me to persuade or even explain this.  
i 
> talk about the environment and freedoms and stress, but those 
> arguments never phase people blinded by the need to drive and the 
> need for everything to be convienient and immediate. (esp. in the 
> motor city - where i'm currently living)
> so i'm just looking for some help - websites, arguments, etc - to 
> help me explain to people a little better about being carfree.
> thanks
> Virginia

De and Riin have offered a few ones, Ken Kifer's bike pages offer 
some more http://www.kenkifer.com . Ultimately, you will have to draw 
from these but most importantly from your life to find plausible 
explanations. For instance:

- some people can't drive or are nervous wrecks when driving a car;
- some people can't afford driving their own car (doesn't seem to be 
your case);
- some people prefer to spend their money elsewhere: for instance 
paying for a trip to a far-away place instead of mere gasoline, 
getting more jewelry, retiring early, working less hours per week, or 
at a more interesting but less lucrative work, or...;
- some people do that for the environment;
- some people actually save time (even in the immediate sense) by not 
using or not having a car;

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John O. Andersen | 5 Jan 2004 16:32

Why we are car-free--for us, choosing something better

We understand according to the AAA statistics that it costs around $6,000 a year to own and operate a motor
vehicle.  

We gave up our family car in August 2002.  In October 2003, we did a family trip to England and North Wales.  We
spent more than we ever had before.

Ironically, when I totaled it all up, it came to around $6,000.

I wrote up a description of our trip complete with photos.  If you're interested, you can find it here:

http://www.unconventionalideas.com/england.html

John O. Andersen
Unconventional Ideas: 
Counter-Mainstream Thoughts on Living Meaningfully in the 21st Century
http://www.unconventionalideas.com

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RIIN GILL | 6 Jan 2004 01:22

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my website

I'm finally done with my website, though I'll be continuing to add to it,
of course, so maybe it would be more accurate to say it's finally ready
for its debut.  Riin's Rants: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~riin/

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John O. Andersen | 6 Jan 2004 03:19

Re: my website

Riin,

I've been reading your site.  Looks great.  I particularly like your rant on "Girls Afraid to Sweat..."

I'll be sharing that with my daughter.

John O. Andersen
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Counter-Mainstream Thoughts on Living Meaningfully in the 21st Century
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I'm finally done with my website, though I'll be continuing to add to it,
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