1 Feb 2000 08:39
Re: welcome
In-Reply-To: <12946-38961C41-14480@...> >Where did you find out about our list? Someone mentioned it on the urbancyclist-uk list, so any UK members may have come from there. Chris in London, England
In-Reply-To: <12946-38961C41-14480@...> >Where did you find out about our list? Someone mentioned it on the urbancyclist-uk list, so any UK members may have come from there. Chris in London, England
wgilmore@... wrote >Instead you might find it more profitable to join the Touring list >which is a list dedicated bike touring enthusiasts. Undoubtedly >someone on that list would be able to offer routing info on Tampa. >List info is here ==> http://www.phred.org/mailman/listinfo/touring You see, being a member of this list has already paid off, I have been looking for the Touring List for ages. Never thought to ask about it here, well you live and learn. Cheers Trevor
>From John Ratcliff of Cambridge Area Bus Users Campaign (mailto:cambuc@...). Christopher Amies wrote: > In-Reply-To: <12946-38961C41-14480@...> > >Where did you find out about our list? > Someone mentioned it on the urbancyclist-uk list, so any UK members may > have come from there. I found it in one of the weekly newsletters from RailWatch - a very good source on cheap rail ticket offers (and other web-based rail information) in the UK. To subscribe, mailto:Requests@... with "subscribe RailWatch" in the title line. John Cambridge, UK
re: the "California left turn" - I probably should have specified that the left turn problem is almost always on a left turn arrow signal (even cars may not turn left unless the arrow is green, unlike a standard signal light). I was informed by a miraculously lenient law enforcement official (I usually consider them the gestapo around here but this guy cut me some slack) that I would be ticketed unless I used the pedestrian walkways. Anyway, I guess I could end up a test case whether I wanted to or not! Yikes! What I will do is consult the city about the signal problems and I'll keep you all updated on what I discover. I very much appreciate the suggestions thus far. This is a good list. re: how'd I find the list - I found it while clicking on a link from a fascinating paper on Community Based Economics in the Environmentalism:Red-Green list. I was excited to find a car-free area. As one writer signed off, "ride on," ditto. C:)
Found it in 'London Cyclist' mag ---------- >From: kitami@... (Christopher Amies) >To: CarFree@... >Subject: Re: [CarFree] welcome >Date: Tue, Feb 1, 2000, 7:00 am > > From: kitami@... (Christopher Amies) > > In-Reply-To: <12946-38961C41-14480@...> >>Where did you find out about our list? > Someone mentioned it on the urbancyclist-uk list, so any UK members may > have come from there. > > Chris > > in London, England > > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor ---------------------------- > > FREE ADVICE FROM REAL PEOPLE! Xpertsite has thousands of experts who > are willing to answer your questions for FREE. Go to Xpertsite today > and put your mind to rest. > <a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/XpersiteCPC ">Click Here</a> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >(Continue reading)
This great intro was sent to me instead of the list so I am forwarding it on. I agree with the comments about the need for speed. Since i got rid of the truck I can feel myself slowing down to a more natural pace. We are getting many new members please introduce yourselfs. buddha I roller skate I ride my bike don't ride no car don't go to fast but I go pretty far. CarFree and Proud to be [This message contained attachments]
Hey C - in your last writing you mentioned the gestapo told you to use the pedestrian cross walk. This is a totally misinformed officer. Bicycles are legal vehicles and are entitled to the roadway. Many police officers are ignorant to the laws pertaining to bicycles. They still think the bicycle is a toy. If you have the energy, consult with your local DOT official who is involved with pedestrian/transportation issues. Know the laws and follow them. You will be better off. One day my wife pam and I stood up to an officer who said we shouldn't be riding on the bridge at this time of day because of the high traffic. It was heated for awhile, but the next day this officer called us and acknowledged we were right, BUT he still would not do it? Ride on.......... Mike Gerke Easy Living Services & Pedicab Green Bay WI http://www.execpc.com/~ezliving
The Swiss Initiative "Umverkehr" (see CarFree Digest No. 53) aims to reduce car travel in Switzerland by 50% within 10 years. We vote on this issue on March 12th. If you have Swiss friends, please urge them to vote YES. The UmVerkehr web site now has a large section in English. See: http://www.umverkehr.ch BTW, car usage also has a lot to do with exerting power over others. At the recent World Economic Forum in Davos, a small mountain town were everything is within walking distance, participants were allowed to drive around in large black limousines and park everywhere even where it is usually forbidden, whereas NGO demonstrators were forbidden their constitutional right to demonstrate. Unfortunately this resulted in some violence; several people were injured, several cars damaged, and the local MacDonalds had its windows demolished. Theo Schmidt, Switzerland
I fell we can pretty well state the advent of the car led to the decline of neighborhoods. Can we extend the thinking and say that the car is responsbile for the RAV we are seing today. I for one find that since I went carfree I know many more people in the neighborhood. And you are less likely to RAV those whom you know. budddha I roller skate I ride my bike don't ride no car don't go to fast but I go pretty far. CarFree and Proud to be
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