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Norma - Crasulady2 | 1 Apr 2012 04:07
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Your plant does not look like the one named 'Ed Eby' we don't believe the man that authored that name actually grows Sans.  I do believe that your is the real thing and now you just back up mine that the Huntington gave me as S. patens, from Meena Singh. Bye
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Very, very nice!

--Scott
Long Beach, California, USA (in Los Angeles County)




On Mar 26, 2012, at 1:33 PM, mlaforest05 <at> comcast.net wrote:

I took some pictures of my S, patens this morning for posting here. A different growth in this same pot flowered about 2 years ago, and I did a hobbyists in-depth study of the flowers and pollen using a stereoscope and compared it to Brown's 1906 monograph. I concluded the two were the same.  I had an advantage over the author of the name 'Ed Eby', because I had flowers and the 'Ed Eby' author did not. His description was based on vegetative characteristics, literature search, and somewhat dubious conclusions. Whatever is your name preference, this species (hybrid?) does not flower very often; it seemingly takes a long while to reach adulthood.












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mlaforest05 | 1 Apr 2012 23:58
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[Sansevierias] OFF TOPIC - NOT Rimpo A & B

Someone was showing pictures of the tree Peony named 'Rimpo' a short time ago. I just took these two pictures
in the back yard of a couple of tree peonies I have in early bloom - no April Fool joke! 

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Mike,

  We have been offering this Peony(Shimanishiki) to the nursery I work at and it never seems to have the
variegated petals....is it a case of maturity?

OK back to Begonias....
 
Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, MCN
Maine Zone 5

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Someone was showing pictures of the tree Peony named 'Rimpo' a short time ago. I just took these two pictures
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Norma - Crasulady2 | 2 Apr 2012 01:34
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They are on most of them.  The leaf bud is on the end of the rhyizome of stolen depending on the species. 
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Hi Michael,
I called it a bud but I am not too sure if it can be called a bud. As in the picture it starts out like a bud but is actually like the start of a stolon, but it does not fully develop into a runner and turns into a leaf. I suppose it could be called a pseudo stolon.
Anyone noticed this type of growth on any other Sansevieria?
 
JohnG

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Interesting; I don't think of Sansevieria as having leaf buds. They just throw up a new leaf which is green - don't they? Is this a flower bud?

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Last year I got Sansevieria sp. ES21736 (Ernst Speck) from Tanzania near Morogoro. This year as soon as I started watering late February it has put out new growth from stem buds as you can see from the pictures the buds are purple or wine coloured. It needs quite a bit of water, if it is left too long the leaves start to show signs of stress and take ages to get back to normal, lesson learnt last year.
Been through the books and I think it might be something new but until it flowers or starts to show adult leaves nothing is cast in stone.
Anyway thought you all would like to see it.
 
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mlaforest05 | 2 Apr 2012 03:24
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I don't think so, Kyle. The first flowers from this now 5 year old plant were variegated. I noticed this year
the flower count increased, but the flowers were not equally bicolored; some were redder than others. I
have no explanation. Perhaps it is not stable. Mericlinal variegation? 

OK. Back to Stanford vs. Baylor. 
Mike 

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Mike, 

We have been offering this Peony(Shimanishiki) to the nursery I work at and it never seems to have the
variegated petals....is it a case of maturity? 

OK back to Begonias.... 

Mr. Kyle Fletcher Baker, MCN 
Maine Zone 5 

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Someone was showing pictures of the tree Peony named 'Rimpo' a short time ago. I just took these two pictures
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They may have them in the Chinese Garden.  They really don't grow well in our zone here,  we are too humid and hot 
but I can certainly check it out. 
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Norma,  I think they have tree peonies at the Huntington in the Asian garden, near the wisteria.  It's been 10 years, but I think I remember that I saw them there.  They are stunning members of the genus Paeonia with about 12-18 species, depending on who you talk to.  The cultivars range from a less than two feet tall to over 8 or 9'.  

Kamata Nishiki


Michael L.
NY Zone 6

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This species I have never heard of.  Norma
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I DO have Rimpo!  At least that's what the tag said.  I have to see it in bloom to believe it.  There are many psuedo-names on the market.  It took me four plants to get the actual Kamata Nishiki - the fabulous purple with soft fading petals and deep purple interior blotches - 10 inches across!!! 


THE SATIN LUMINOUS TEXTURE OF THE PETALS IS SOMETHING I CANNOT DESCRIBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the purple is like a divine shade of eggplant skin lit from within. <faints with memory>. Oh how I wish I could grow them here in Soviet California!



I've been learning from everyone on the list.  That's what make them fun.  Good folks around here.

Oh we are borderline WONDERFUL! <at> >----
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Someone was showing pictures of the tree Peony named 'Rimpo' a short time ago. I just took these two pictures in the back yard of a couple of tree peonies I have in early bloom - no April Fool joke!

  




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Thanks for the input, I don't remember seeing them at that location.  Norma
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Norma,  I think they have tree peonies at the Huntington in the Asian garden, near the wisteria.  It's been 10 years, but I think I remember that I saw them there.  They are stunning members of the genus Paeonia with about 12-18 species, depending on who you talk to.  The cultivars range from a less than two feet tall to over 8 or 9'.  

Kamata Nishiki


Michael L.
NY Zone 6

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Sent: Tue, Mar 27, 2012 9:48 pm
Subject: Re: [Sansevierias] Introduction

 
This species I have never heard of.  Norma
----- Original Message -----
From: hermine
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Sansevierias] Introduction


I DO have Rimpo!  At least that's what the tag said.  I have to see it in bloom to believe it.  There are many psuedo-names on the market.  It took me four plants to get the actual Kamata Nishiki - the fabulous purple with soft fading petals and deep purple interior blotches - 10 inches across!!! 


THE SATIN LUMINOUS TEXTURE OF THE PETALS IS SOMETHING I CANNOT DESCRIBE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and the purple is like a divine shade of eggplant skin lit from within. <faints with memory>. Oh how I wish I could grow them here in Soviet California!



I've been learning from everyone on the list.  That's what make them fun.  Good folks around here.

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Re: [Sansevierias] buds, rhizomes, and stolons, oh my



I will keep an eye on the bud and keep a photo diary. I missed the growth of the last one that turned into the leaves on the right of the plant.
 
John

On 31 March 2012 08:02, Norma - Crasulady2 <crasulady2 <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
it depends how full the pot is.  Perhaps the leaf bumps or ? are called eyes
only they are not indented. ?  I am only talking rhizomes,  not stolens
which are referred to as above the soil line but not consistently,
especially in old plants,  my old plants even the rhizomes are pushing above
the soil  line no place to go down,  so they go above.  Got to go to bed.
Norma
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 6:11 AM
Subject: [Sansevierias] buds, rhizomes, and stolons, oh my


I learned that stolons were at ground level or slightly below.  Rhizomes
were considered to grow more deeply underground like many of our
Sansevieria... but some could be at ground level.  Consider bearded Iris.
Stolons may be slender, in the case of strawberries, or heavier in the case
of arial stolons of some Sansevieria.  But... to make this more confusing,
the morphology is not distinct.  There are thick stolons and slender
rhizomes.

Buds, either leaf or flower, are found near or at the end of a growth.  They
are also found in leaf axils.  Typically, they are found with bud scales, as
seen in the recent pictures.  Some of these should probably be considered
bracts, especially in the case Sansevieria.  Within the bud is the
meristematic tissue (the cell dividing stuff) that will produce the new
growth - branch, flower, or whole plant.

Now wasn't that clear - perhaps not!  Plants DO NOT follow the rules, if you
haven't already figured that out.

This is really only part of the story, but it gives an idea... right?

Michael L.
NY Zone 6



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Re: [Sansevierias] buds, rhizomes, and stolons, oh my



I have already responded to this question.  Plants with rhizomes  may heave themselves out of the pot by pushing up instead of going through holes that are too small or splitting the pot.  No one tells them that they can't break the rules. I have several that do that, because there is no other place to go.  Norma  
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Subject: Re: [Sansevierias] buds, rhizomes, and stolons, oh my

I will keep an eye on the bud and keep a photo diary. I missed the growth of the last one that turned into the leaves on the right of the plant.
 
John

On 31 March 2012 08:02, Norma - Crasulady2 <crasulady2 <at> dslextreme.com> wrote:
it depends how full the pot is.  Perhaps the leaf bumps or ? are called eyes
only they are not indented. ?  I am only talking rhizomes,  not stolens
which are referred to as above the soil line but not consistently,
especially in old plants,  my old plants even the rhizomes are pushing above
the soil  line no place to go down,  so they go above.  Got to go to bed.
Norma
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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 6:11 AM
Subject: [Sansevierias] buds, rhizomes, and stolons, oh my


I learned that stolons were at ground level or slightly below.  Rhizomes
were considered to grow more deeply underground like many of our
Sansevieria... but some could be at ground level.  Consider bearded Iris.
Stolons may be slender, in the case of strawberries, or heavier in the case
of arial stolons of some Sansevieria.  But... to make this more confusing,
the morphology is not distinct.  There are thick stolons and slender
rhizomes.

Buds, either leaf or flower, are found near or at the end of a growth.  They
are also found in leaf axils.  Typically, they are found with bud scales, as
seen in the recent pictures.  Some of these should probably be considered
bracts, especially in the case Sansevieria.  Within the bud is the
meristematic tissue (the cell dividing stuff) that will produce the new
growth - branch, flower, or whole plant.

Now wasn't that clear - perhaps not!  Plants DO NOT follow the rules, if you
haven't already figured that out.

This is really only part of the story, but it gives an idea... right?

Michael L.
NY Zone 6



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