John | 1 Mar 2007 20:04

Re: OFF TOPIC BABIES HATCH


> When you said 1-2-3-4- etc. I thought you were naming the new pups, did you sell them alrea
No I will not be selling them for t least 2 possibly three years as they re quite delicate till then.
Most are spoken for.

 How many eggs did you have?
I think there were 20 eggs and 18 hatched.
 Do they all grow at the same rate? ; 
No some grow very fast depends on how greedy they are.

JohnG

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>     On 28 Feb 2007 at 15:06, Norma L wrote: 
> 
> 
>     > Do they each have their own personality, 
>     Yes when they get older. 
> 
>     can you tell them apart. 
>     most of them the plastron is different. Plastron the belly plates. 
>     Are we talking about reptiles now?Plants? 
>     Tortoise as far as I know. 
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Hermine | 1 Mar 2007 20:15

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At 11:04 AM 3/1/2007, John wrote:

> > When you said 1-2-3-4- etc. I thought you were naming the new 
> pups, did you sell them alrea
>No I will not be selling them for t least 2 possibly three years as 
>they re quite delicate till then.
>Most are spoken for.

the reproduction of herps outside of their habitat is to me one of 
the most delicate things to manage of many things a person can do. 
hat is off to you, John!
most folks do not know how wonderful the disposition is of tortoises.

hermine

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John | 1 Mar 2007 20:24

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from you Hermine that is high praise indeed.

JohnG

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> At 11:04 AM 3/1/2007, John wrote:
> 
> 
> > > When you said 1-2-3-4- etc. I thought you were naming the new 
> > pups, did you sell them alrea
> >No I will not be selling them for t least 2 possibly three years as 
> >they re quite delicate till then.
> >Most are spoken for.
> 
> 
> the reproduction of herps outside of their habitat is to me one of 
> the most delicate things to manage of many things a person can do. 
> hat is off to you, John!
> most folks do not know how wonderful the disposition is of tortoises.
> 
> hermine
> 
> 
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Norma L | 1 Mar 2007 20:47
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Thats unusual for a breeder to keep them at long.  They are going to eat you 
out of house and home. John I really hope to see you again in the States. 
Norma
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> At 11:04 AM 3/1/2007, John wrote:
>
>
>> > When you said 1-2-3-4- etc. I thought you were naming the new
>> pups, did you sell them alrea
>>No I will not be selling them for t least 2 possibly three years as
>>they re quite delicate till then.
>>Most are spoken for.
>
>
> the reproduction of herps outside of their habitat is to me one of
> the most delicate things to manage of many things a person can do.
> hat is off to you, John!
> most folks do not know how wonderful the disposition is of tortoises.
>
> hermine
>
>
>
>
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Norma L | 1 Mar 2007 20:51
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Do you break them up in groups, so the bully's don't get more food than the 
others.  Or keep them in tiny stalls, so they have their privacy, and can 
eat as much as they want.  Are they feed just greens or do they get grubs, 
etc for proteen?  What about the snakes at this time?  Still breeding them ? 
I haven't seen pictures of them for a long time.  Hugs, Norma
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>
>
>> When you said 1-2-3-4- etc. I thought you were naming the new pups, did 
>> you sell them alrea
> No I will not be selling them for t least 2 possibly three years as they 
> re quite delicate till then.
> Most are spoken for.
>
> How many eggs did you have?
> I think there were 20 eggs and 18 hatched.
> Do they all grow at the same rate? ;
> No some grow very fast depends on how greedy they are.
>
> JohnG
>
>
>>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>>     From: John
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Big Herm | 1 Mar 2007 21:33

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(Deep curtsey)
Herm
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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:24:31 
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from you Hermine that is high praise indeed.

 JohnG

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 > At 11:04 AM 3/1/2007, John wrote:
 > 
 > 
 > > > When you said 1-2-3-4- etc. I thought you were naming the new 
 > > pups, did you sell them alrea
 > >No I will not be selling them for t least 2 possibly three years as 
 > >they re quite delicate till then.
 > >Most are spoken for.
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Big Herm | 1 Mar 2007 21:34

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Such wonderful neonatal photos are RARE even in actual BOOKS!
typed by banging on the keyboard with a tumor which grows out of my forehead    

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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:35:38 
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John, 

 Thanks for sharing those pictures with us. It is truly amazing to see the
 miracle.

 And CONGRATULATIONS!

 joe

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 from you Hermine that is high praise indeed.

 JohnG

 On 1 Mar 2007 at 11:15, Hermine wrote:

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Big Herm | 1 Mar 2007 22:13

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They have a long, delicate infancy, but they live a long time. It is not costly to feed them. I feel an attack of
Uromastix coming on. FRAN :ORWOOD BROUGHT SOME OF THESE B ACK AND IN TRANSIT THEY ATE MANY OF HIS HAWORTHIAS!
HERM
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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:47:55 
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Thats unusual for a breeder to keep them at long. They are going to eat you 
 out of house and home. John I really hope to see you again in the States. 
 Norma
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 > At 11:04 AM 3/1/2007, John wrote:
 >
 >
 >> > When you said 1-2-3-4- etc. I thought you were naming the new
 >> pups, did you sell them alrea
 >>No I will not be selling them for t least 2 possibly three years as
 >>they re quite delicate till then.
 >>Most are spoken for.
 >
 >
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John | 1 Mar 2007 22:35

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On 1 Mar 2007 at 11:51, Norma L wrote:


> Do you break them up in groups, so the bully's don't get more food than the
> others.
I will be keeping them in a large Tortoise table which is basically a table with 12" sides to which is placed a spot lamp for daily warmth and a special UV bulb. They will be kept in that till the weather is warm enough to put them outside. Then they will go into a pen which I can move around the garden so they can forage on natural food.

> Are they feed just greens or do they get grubs,
No these are purely vegetarians eating flowers,leaves and some vegies.
> What about the snakes at this time?  Still breeding them ?
The snakes are still in brumation till this weekend when i will start to warm them up. Then the males and females will be put together. Hopefully I will be breeding Western coachwhips. This will be a first for me and as far as I know a first in the UK.
Also Bullsnakes and white sided ratsnakes. I was hoping to breed Huacha King snakes but I have just found out the one I thought as a male is in fact a female. So I am desperately looking for one.
> I haven't seen pictures of them for a long time.  Hugs, Norma
One of my pairs of Bullsnakes only four foot and still babies but will be breeding them this year for the first time.
A blue beauty ratsnake from Viet Nam this is a female and 8' long very vicious I will hopefully breed them next year. These are quite rare outside of the wild, they come from a very isolated area of Viet Nam.

Note the long sleeves.

John
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barbara polny | 1 Mar 2007 22:46
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If you are speaking of the beautiful lizards by that name, I share your 
urge, trying valiantly to resist it.  They  have that "masterful" gazw, 
quite similar to our Chuckwallas, which are also most beautiful critters.
Hans
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> They have a long, delicate infancy, but they live a long time. It is not 
> costly to feed them. I feel an attack of Uromastix coming on. FRAN :ORWOOD 
> BROUGHT SOME OF THESE B ACK AND IN TRANSIT THEY ATE MANY OF HIS 
> HAWORTHIAS!
> HERM
> typed by banging on the keyboard with a tumor which grows out of my 
> forehead
>
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> Subject: Re: [Sansevierias] OFF TOPIC BABIES HATCH
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> Thats unusual for a breeder to keep them at long. They are going to eat 
> you
> out of house and home. John I really hope to see you again in the States.
> Norma
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> >> pups, did you sell them alrea
> >>No I will not be selling them for t least 2 possibly three years as
> >>they re quite delicate till then.
> >>Most are spoken for.
> >
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> > the reproduction of herps outside of their habitat is to me one of
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