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However, the picture of Peter Heyens plant (with a typical cylindrica offset) embedded in your message shows a plant that differs VERY MUCH from what is usually offered under the name 'Boncel' (aka 'bocelensis' or 'bonceilensis') in terms of both coloring AND leaf shape. The latter matches rather a small cylindrica 'Skyline' plant or something very close to it. IMHO the maternal plant in the picture shows signs of fooling with growth retardants. I would have never taken it for 'Boncel', not even for the dark form of the latter that was introduced most recently and was claimed by the author/grower to remain stable for three generations.
 
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YES, this is very like the boncel photo sent to me by SOMEBODY.
thank you for this Lord Gamesby, keeper of the Sansevieria Botanical Library.

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Here is Peter Heyens Boncel with a typical cylindrica offset.




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YES, this is very like the boncel photo sent to me by SOMEBODY.
thank you for this Lord Gamesby, keeper of the Sansevieria Botanical Library.

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Here is Peter Heyens Boncel with a typical cylindrica offset.




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Please have Peter dump the pot and take a new picture. I wanna see the rhizome connection between these 2 plants.
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Here is Peter Heyens Boncel with a typical cylindrica offset.

On 27 July 2014 23:04, Hermine Stover hermine <at> endangeredspecies.com [Sansevierias] <Sansevierias <at> yahoogroups.com> wrote:


For me, it is hard to believe the
story of getting normal cylindrica offsets from 'Boncel' leaf cuttings.
This variety reproduces truly from offsets in my collection with no signs
of size increasing. Hermine, are you that "one person"? Wasn't
there a human eror involved with that leaf cutting experiment? If it
wasn't the case, how do you explain that the offsets remain
dwarf?


I never even had boncel. however somebody whose name escapes my
overheated mind, DID get one, praps off eBay and reported that the pups
which emerged from a rooted leave were plain cylindrica. Perhaps there
are several different plants being sold under this name? in short, I
dunno.

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Here is Peter Heyens Boncel with a typical cylindrica offset.




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For me, it is hard to believe the story of getting normal cylindrica offsets from 'Boncel' leaf cuttings. This variety reproduces truly from offsets in my collection with no signs of size increasing. Hermine, are you that "one person"? Wasn't there a human eror involved with that leaf cutting experiment? If it wasn't the case, how do you explain that the offsets remain dwarf?


I never even had boncel. however somebody whose name escapes my overheated mind, DID get one, praps off eBay and reported that the pups which emerged from a rooted leave were plain cylindrica. Perhaps there are several different plants being sold under this name? in short, I dunno.

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Hermine and John,
 
For me, it is hard to believe the story of getting normal cylindrica offsets from 'Boncel' leaf cuttings. This variety reproduces truly from offsets in my collection with no signs of size increasing. Hermine, are you that "one person"? Wasn't there a human eror involved with that leaf cutting experiment? If it wasn't the case, how do you explain that the offsets remain dwarf?
 
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Thank's for that Staszek more o r less what I thought, it was the small size that made me ask. I know of at least one person who took a 'Boncel' leaf cutting and got normal cylindrica offsets.


And so do I, regarding the leaf cuttings.

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At 06:49 AM 7/27/2014, you wrote:
 

Thank's for that Staszek more o r less what I thought, it was the small size that made me ask. I know of at least one person who took a 'Boncel' leaf cutting and got normal cylindrica offsets.


And so do I, regarding the leaf cuttings.

herm

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MOST variegated plants need to be grown only at the maximum light just short of what will BURN THE VARIEGATION.

I grew variegated Cactus and this was a very touchy thing because they need bright light, but the right amount of light burns the variegation.

I got my var hybrid from they guy who was running I think Fairchild. we had a nice visit. I was delighted! He was delighted!

your plants sure look good, and of course continue selecting for the best variegation. my original plant had a modest amount.

hermine

Hi Corey,
I'm not sure what you mean by "light....to maintain the variegation". Variegation is genetically set in the rhizome - specifically in what is called the 'apical meristem' at the growing rhizome tip. More (or less) light has no effect on the existence of variegation. However, variegated plants as a whole are considered sun-lovers because they have less chlorophyll in their leaves to make the sugars the plant needs to grow. This particular plant does not have enough variegation to noticeably effect its growth and 'happiness'. In fact it has been in a shaded porch since mid April. In winter, it was receiving poor light from a house window. I hasten to say it would probably get taller if I gave it better sunlight - but then it would become larger and even more unwieldly! Ha!
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Sent: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 22:51:35 -0000 (UTC)
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Wow! How much light does it need to maintain the variegation?

-Corey
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> Attached are a few pictures of the subject sansevieria. This plant is a descendant of the USDA experiments in the 1940's (in Florida) to develop a Sansevieria with long, strong fibers for the making of rope. This plant is a bit unusual, maybe even rare, because it is variegated. At 6+ feet long, with large, heavy rhizomes, I hate depotting the monster. It needs a large, heavy pot because the tall leaves act as a sail to sometimes blow the pot over in a wind. Although every leaf has at least one yellow stripe, I always discard the lesser variegated pups and keep the best. As an F-1 hybrid, it exhibits the hybrid vigor you would expect from a first cross.

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At 10:43 AM 7/26/2014, you wrote:
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>he is calling S. bonceilensis??

whatever the parentage, it looks BLOATED.
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Over on FB one of the Sansevieria groups a member has posted a plant he is calling S. bonceilensis??
Anyone ever heard of it, probably another Indo hybrids. 

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Attached are a few pictures of the subject sansevieria. This plant is a descendant of the USDA experiments in the 1940's (in Florida) to develop a Sansevieria with long, strong fibers for the making of rope. This plant is a bit unusual, maybe even rare, because it is variegated. At 6+ feet long, with large, heavy rhizomes, I hate depotting the monster. It needs a large, heavy pot because the tall leaves act as a sail to sometimes blow the pot over in a wind. Although every leaf has at least one yellow stripe, I always discard the lesser variegated pups and keep the best. As an F-1 hybrid, it exhibits the hybrid vigor you would expect from a first cross.


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As some of you might already know there are a few free online journals to do with our hobby. So I have put the journals that I know of the links and volumes/issues available to date.

If you know of any that I have not mentioned please let me know vie reply, E-mail or FB message.

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Free Online Cactus/Succulent Magazines Update #4

 

Showing the issues available to date (11/07/14)



Acta Succulenta

http://www.acta-succulenta.eu/index.php?pg=dwn&mnu=m1_en&clc=1&zc=BeB

Issues available 2013 Vol.1 No. 1-2 014 Vol.2 No.2

Available in pdf format in English, German, Italian and French.

Available in pdf format



Avonia-News - The German Society for the other succulents (Fachgesellschaft andere Sukkulenten e.V.), FGaS

http://www.cactuspro.com/biblio/en:avonia

Issues Available 2008 issues 1-9. 2009 issues 1- 11. 2010 issues 1-11. 2011 issues 1-11. 2012 issues 1-12. 2013 issues 1-11.2014 issues 1-6 pdf.

Available in pdf format


 

Journal Acc Aztekium – Rumanian Cacti Growers Society.

 http://www.aztekium.ro/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=149

Issues Available: January 2012 – November 2013. 2014 May #36

Available in pdf format.


Boletin de la SLCCS – Sociedad Latinoamerican Y Del Caribe De Cactaceas Y Otras Succulentas SLCCS)

http://www.ibiologia.unam.mx/slccs/www/boletin.htm

Issues Available - Bulletin Vol 1 No 1 Sep Dec 2004.Bulletin Vol 10 No 2 May - Aug - 2013.

Available in pdf format in Spanish.

 

The Cactus Explorers 

http://www.cactusexplorers.org.uk/journal6.htm

Issues Available Issues 1 - 10 pdf - August 2011 – April 2014 #11

 Available in pdf format in English


Crassulacea n° 3 [2013-04-15]

http://www.crassulaceae.ch/

Crassulaceae 1-3

Cactacean 1-4

Available in pdf format in English


Echinocereus

http://www.echinocereus.eu/

Available issues 2013 – 2014 01-02

Available in pdf format in German/English with a foreign language translator blue button.


Schütziana Gymnocalycium Journal

 http://www.schuetziana.org/downloads.php

Issues Available  Volume 1, Issue 1, 2010 - Volume 4, Issue 1, - Volume 4, Issue 2, 2013 

Available in pdf format in English and Japanese.

Sansevieria Online

http://www.sansevieria-online.de/doku.php

Journal 1 (1) 2013 – Vol.2:1 2014 available from 01-05-2014?

There is also a very helpful The field numbers of the Sansevierias  in PDF for download.

Succulentopi – Au Cactus Francophone

Available in PDF German


Succulentopia

http://www.cactuspro.com/succulentopia/

Issues Available 9 issues No.1 April 2012 – No 7 October 2013: 2014 No.8-10

 Available in pdf format in French

Xerophilia 

http://xerophilia.ro/

Issues Available No. 1 June 2012 – December 2013. #9 Junr2014

Special issues

No.1 The Stone Eaters

No.2 First Description of Aztekium valdezii Velazco, Alvarado et Arias sp. Nov.

No.3 January 2014 – Epiphytic myrmecophytes of southern Asia and the southwest Pacific

No.4 March 2014 – Turbinicarpus schmiedickeanus (Böedeker) Buxb. & Backeb. subsp. sanchezi-mejoradae García-Morales, González-Botello & Vargas-Vázquez – a new subspecies from Tamaulipas, México

Available in Standard and High Quality Magazine print pdf format in Romanian then in English from May 2013.




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