Hello. Has anyone looked at segusoLand, or even tried it? I'm not sure it's that good, but maybe a good idea to consider when defining the "new" gui... http://segusoland.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html -- -- Jacques Mony
Seems a very interesting project. Just a few observations: -clicking a .gif removes all devices from the list except the cd-burner and the printer...what happened to wanting to copy it to floppy, or another harddisk? Must be simply a bad example imho, clicking an mp3 later on on the page summons more sensible possible actions. -You still need to select which cd-writer you want to use out of a list of 1..but that could be changed depending on user-preference I guess. -the more important one: finding files among massive heaps of files requires meta-data. The page says itself: you almost don't need directories any more. *Almost*. Directories can be bloody useful however, and here they're hidden. A rant about meta-data: http://www.well.com/~doctorow/metacrap.htm My favorite quote: "Short of breaking fingers or sending out squads of vengeful info-ninjas to add metadata to the average user's files, we're never gonna get there." Nonetheless, this is a very interesting approach, integratable with existing software :) Jacques Mony wrote: >Hello. > >Has anyone looked at segusoLand, or even tried it? I'm not sure it's >that good, but maybe a good idea to consider when defining the "new" >gui... > >http://segusoland.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html >(Continue reading)
The product itself doesn't interest me much... it's the fact that they are changing from the old desktop/icons paradigm. I think we can do even more than what they have done. However, the world might not be ready for more. On 6/1/06, Ronald Vos <Egregius <at> gmail.com> wrote: > Seems a very interesting project. Just a few observations: > > -clicking a .gif removes all devices from the list except the cd-burner > and the printer...what happened to wanting to copy it to floppy, or > another harddisk? Must be simply a bad example imho, clicking an mp3 > later on on the page summons more sensible possible actions. > -You still need to select which cd-writer you want to use out of a list > of 1..but that could be changed depending on user-preference I guess. > -the more important one: finding files among massive heaps of files > requires meta-data. The page says itself: you almost don't need > directories any more. *Almost*. Directories can be bloody useful > however, and here they're hidden. A rant about meta-data: > http://www.well.com/~doctorow/metacrap.htm > My favorite quote: "Short of breaking fingers or sending out squads of > vengeful info-ninjas to add metadata to the average user's files, we're > never gonna get there." > > Nonetheless, this is a very interesting approach, integratable with > existing software :) > > Jacques Mony wrote: > > >Hello. > >(Continue reading)
Is it a fair statement that we typically read more than we interact/type with our computers? One of the problems I find is that most people do not find it pleasurable to read documents and papers on the computer screen. We can't just blame this on the angle of the screen, or white backgrounds. I think that a simpler navigation system would make such an interface much more pleasurable and efficient to use. On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 10:33:31PM -0400, Jacques Mony wrote: > The product itself doesn't interest me much... it's the fact that they > are changing from the old desktop/icons paradigm. I think we can do > even more than what they have done. However, the world might not be > ready for more. > > On 6/1/06, Ronald Vos <Egregius <at> gmail.com> wrote: > > Seems a very interesting project. Just a few observations: > > > > -clicking a .gif removes all devices from the list except the cd-burner > > and the printer...what happened to wanting to copy it to floppy, or > > another harddisk? Must be simply a bad example imho, clicking an mp3 > > later on on the page summons more sensible possible actions. > > -You still need to select which cd-writer you want to use out of a list > > of 1..but that could be changed depending on user-preference I guess. > > -the more important one: finding files among massive heaps of files > > requires meta-data. The page says itself: you almost don't need > > directories any more. *Almost*. Directories can be bloody useful > > however, and here they're hidden. A rant about meta-data: > > http://www.well.com/~doctorow/metacrap.htm > > My favorite quote: "Short of breaking fingers or sending out squads of(Continue reading)
On 6/2/06, Davison Avery <doobie <at> unununium.org> wrote: > Is it a fair statement that we typically read more than we > interact/type with our computers? > > One of the problems I find is that most people do not find it > pleasurable to read documents and papers on the computer screen. We > can't just blame this on the angle of the screen, or white > backgrounds. I think that a simpler navigation system would make such > an interface much more pleasurable and efficient to use. I used to find it not pleasurable to read documents on my screen until I got an LCD, now I find it quite nice. I also find tilting it by 90 degrees helps a lot (it's a widescreen). Also, the wider the document is, the harder it is to read. The problem is further made worse by many web pages where the text fills the screen up to the sides which makes it much harder to read. This is also why word processors have huge margins by default (and ironically the first thing most people do is reduce the margin size making their documents less readable).
true. On 6/1/06, Davison Avery <avery.davison <at> gmail.com> wrote: > Doesn't matter if the world is ready or not -- as long as we can find > something that works for us, it will most likely catch on with the > people that need to use it. > > On 6/1/06, Jacques Mony <jacques.mony <at> gmail.com> wrote: > > The product itself doesn't interest me much... it's the fact that they > > are changing from the old desktop/icons paradigm. I think we can do > > even more than what they have done. However, the world might not be > > ready for more. > > > > On 6/1/06, Ronald Vos <Egregius <at> gmail.com> wrote: > > > Seems a very interesting project. Just a few observations: > > > > > > -clicking a .gif removes all devices from the list except the cd-burner > > > and the printer...what happened to wanting to copy it to floppy, or > > > another harddisk? Must be simply a bad example imho, clicking an mp3 > > > later on on the page summons more sensible possible actions. > > > -You still need to select which cd-writer you want to use out of a list > > > of 1..but that could be changed depending on user-preference I guess. > > > -the more important one: finding files among massive heaps of files > > > requires meta-data. The page says itself: you almost don't need > > > directories any more. *Almost*. Directories can be bloody useful > > > however, and here they're hidden. A rant about meta-data: > > > http://www.well.com/~doctorow/metacrap.htm > > > My favorite quote: "Short of breaking fingers or sending out squads of > > > vengeful info-ninjas to add metadata to the average user's files, we're > > > never gonna get there."(Continue reading)
I believe that tablet PCs with touch screen (to underline text) will increase this ability to read large documents on a computer. On 6/1/06, Michael Kedzierski <waikurosu <at> gmail.com> wrote: > On 6/2/06, Davison Avery <doobie <at> unununium.org> wrote: > > Is it a fair statement that we typically read more than we > > interact/type with our computers? > > > > One of the problems I find is that most people do not find it > > pleasurable to read documents and papers on the computer screen. We > > can't just blame this on the angle of the screen, or white > > backgrounds. I think that a simpler navigation system would make such > > an interface much more pleasurable and efficient to use. > > I used to find it not pleasurable to read documents on my screen until > I got an LCD, now I find it quite nice. I also find tilting it by 90 > degrees helps a lot (it's a widescreen). > > Also, the wider the document is, the harder it is to read. The problem > is further made worse by many web pages where the text fills the > screen up to the sides which makes it much harder to read. > > This is also why word processors have huge margins by default (and > ironically the first thing most people do is reduce the margin size > making their documents less readable). > > _______________________________________________ > Uuu-devel mailing list > Uuu-devel <at> unununium.org > http://unununium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/uuu-devel(Continue reading)
Ronald Vos (el 2006-06-02 a les 00:40:42 +0200) va dir:: > Seems a very interesting project. Just a few observations: > > […] > -the more important one: finding files among massive heaps of files > requires meta-data. The page says itself: you almost don't need > directories any more. *Almost*. Directories can be bloody useful > however, and here they're hidden. A rant about meta-data: > http://www.well.com/~doctorow/metacrap.htm > […] This reminds me of a very interesting `article about metadata`__ by `Tuomo Valkonen`_ (the author of Ion), which also links Cory’s article. __ http://www.modeemi.fi/~tuomov/b/archives/2006/03/01/T17_55_20/ > Jacques Mony wrote: > > >Hello. > > > >Has anyone looked at segusoLand, or even tried it? […] You surely have noticed it, but anyway, segusoLand_ was abandoned in favour of `Logical Desktop`_, which has been superseded by OneFinger_, so don’t be surprised if there are some corners left in segusoLand. ;) And yes, UUU will allow me to put a reStructuredText-to-PDF formatter in my mail viewer. ;)(Continue reading)
Hello everyone, Before the last post, when I proposed to participate to the Google summer of code, I made a little progress on my project. Unfortunately, I hadn't enought time to apply for the Google summer of code. Then I coded it on my spare time (10h). I hadn't much time since April. As I promised to Norman Köhring I made site where I uploaded my work. The shell is called argentinium and isn't yet complete but I think that things can be go much faster during holidays. For the moment, the shell is able to parse commands like: www.unununium.org scanPort:20 to:1024 and generate a string to execute (it needs some little impovement) Narke. PS: site: http://narke.free.fr/
Hello everyone, Before the last post, when I proposed to participate to the Google summer of code, I made a little progress on my project. Unfortunately, I hadn't enought time to apply for the Google summer of code. Then I coded it on my spare time (10h). I hadn't much time since April. As I promised to Norman Köhring I made site where I uploaded my work. The shell is called argentinium and isn't yet complete but I think that things can be go much faster during holidays. For the moment, the shell is able to parse commands like: www.unununium.org scanPort:20 to:1024 and generate a string to execute (it needs some little impovement) Narke. PS: site: http://narke.free.fr/
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