Silence in October

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Re: Silence in October

On Sun, Oct 16, 2005 at 05:58:06PM +0100, Gottfried F. Zojer wrote:
> Hello,
> Just to see how everybody is doing.Bit surprised why the mailing list is so
> silent.
> And just come back to the latest thoughts about orthogonal persistance and
> petri nets.
> Also was going through Petri Nets Simulator from University of Berlin.
> But not really sure about the projects as such away from the fact that the
> only agree is that there isnt much progress.
> As I started it was all about python and a exokernel and now we are talking
> about Petri Nets and the universe of E languages.
> Hope somebody can explain.
> 
> Thanks for any feedback
> 
> Gottfried

It's silent because no one is doing anything on Unununium. Feel free to
change that, though.

The goal of Unununium has never been "to write as OS in Python". Rather,
Python was used because it seemed useful. "Exokernel" was never a part
of the design, either. In fact, without separate address spaces, there
is hardly a useful definition of "kernel". While a single address space
is not required, it has been the design of choice through the entire
history of Unununium.

Petri nets have been a topic of thought for a long time. They were just
mentioned again, recently. Because of their transactional, concurrent
nature, they are interesting in the context of Unununium.

I'm not sure where this discussion about E languages has been. Surely
some people have mentioned E and it's possible use in Unununium, but
then so has just about every other programming language. I would like to
explore it more.

The primary goal of Unununium is orthogonal persistence. There are many
paths to get there. Currently the project is nothing more than an IRC
channel and a mailing list of acquainted people who have collectively
pondered ways to implement such a system. No one, unfortunately, is
writing any apreciable amount of code. Anyone is welcome to do so,
however.

Persistance

Alright if this is really the case we should switch to java or jython.
Well I m interested  in contributing code but like anyone else I
suppose I have a job
what is time consuming,so I wanted to focus my interest on Unununium on how
to Unununium can be developed with Eclipse and how to create a disk
image for Bochs

http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/hosking/pjama.html

http://dejay.org/

http://www.jython.org/

Again any feedback welcomed

Regards

Gottfried

Re: Persistance

On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 03:15:56PM +0100, Gottfried F. Zojer wrote:
> Alright if this is really the case we should switch to java or jython.
> Well I m interested  in contributing code but like anyone else I
> suppose I have a job
> what is time consuming,so I wanted to focus my interest on Unununium on how
> to Unununium can be developed with Eclipse and how to create a disk
> image for Bochs
> 
> http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/hosking/pjama.html
> 
> http://dejay.org/
> 
> http://www.jython.org/
> 
> Again any feedback welcomed
> 
> Regards
> 
> Gottfried

Firstly, knowing how to use your development tools is your
responsibility, not mine.

If you actually downloaded the source code and ran it, you would see
that it doesn't run in bochs, and there is no disk image to make. There
is only a 'uuu' package for python that you can import.

Lastly, you are free to do whatever you like, but before you start an
email with "Alright if this is really the case we should [discard all
previous code and design and do everything my way]", put a little
thought into your position. Many of us have been working on this project
for several years. If you are going to suggest everything is wrong, at
least do it respectfully.

Re: Persistance

On Tue, Oct 18, 2005 at 03:15:56PM +0100, Gottfried F. Zojer wrote:
| Alright if this is really the case we should switch to java or jython.

Jython is just a different implementation of the Python language.  You
should be able to use it to run pretty much any python program.
Jython can't run programs that depend on C extensions, implementation
details that aren't specified in the spec, and language and library
features that are newer than jython the spec jython implements.

| I wanted to focus my interest on Unununium on how
| to Unununium can be developed with Eclipse

http://pydev.sf.net/

| http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/hosking/pjama.html

The headline here seems like it will be an interesting read.

-D

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