Thomas Novelli | 9 Nov 2005 04:45
Picon
Gravatar

mediawiki

I looked into Mediawiki... It seems fairly easy to set up, then it's just a matter of customizing the link bar, logo, help pages, etc.

Translation looks pretty easy... the format for links is different, but HTML is HTML.  Do we care about version history?  Looks like CLiki just stores a complete copy, not a diff... I assume Mediawiki does the same.
 - Get Cliki pages from /serv/tunes/cliki/data/  (someone needs to do a "chmod 644 data/*")
 - Run through a regex script
 - Dump into MySQL tables without screwing up Mediawiki

I'll try this at home, unless someone else is already working on it.

Tom

Brian Rice | 11 Nov 2005 21:29
Favicon

Re: mediawiki

I'm actually at a loss to get the suggested mediawiki anti-spam  
settings (disable anonymous edits, use content-regexp matching to  
block spam content) to actually take effect, so until that's  
resolved, I'm not as enthused about it as I'd like to be.  
LocalSettings.php edits should update the website, but I don't know  
if there's an additional magic step to take. If someone can answer  
this (I already asked Fare and then he disappeared), it would move  
things forward.

On Nov 8, 2005, at 7:45 PM, Thomas Novelli wrote:

> I looked into Mediawiki... It seems fairly easy to set up, then  
> it's just a matter of customizing the link bar, logo, help pages, etc.
>
> Translation looks pretty easy... the format for links is different,  
> but HTML is HTML.  Do we care about version history?  Looks like  
> CLiki just stores a complete copy, not a diff... I assume Mediawiki  
> does the same.
>  - Get Cliki pages from /serv/tunes/cliki/data/  (someone needs to  
> do a "chmod 644 data/*")
>  - Run through a regex script
>  - Dump into MySQL tables without screwing up Mediawiki
>
> I'll try this at home, unless someone else is already working on it.
>
> Tom
>

--
-Brian

Thomas Novelli | 12 Nov 2005 00:10
Picon
Gravatar

Re: mediawiki

I'm having LocalSettings.php problems too... I turned off "Your Logo Here" the other day, and the change took immediate effect, without restarting wiki.  Now it's back, and LocalSettings seems to have no effect.  Obviously I need to solve that problem... probably permissions or something.  Man, PHP is ugly -- C, Perl, and HTML, combined -- and this is a complex piece of software... But, it works for Wikipedia...

On the upside, I'm ready to bulk-import CLiki pages to Mediawiki.

Tril/Fare/Brian: Will I need root's intervention to setup a Mysql database?  And should we use the 'tunes' account, or create a separate wiki account?

BTW, Fare's not missing, he's just ignoring us. Look at his Livejournal...

Tom


On 11/11/05, Brian Rice <water <at> tunes.org> wrote:
I'm actually at a loss to get the suggested mediawiki anti-spam
settings (disable anonymous edits, use content-regexp matching to
block spam content) to actually take effect, so until that's
resolved, I'm not as enthused about it as I'd like to be.
LocalSettings.php edits should update the website, but I don't know
if there's an additional magic step to take. If someone can answer
this (I already asked Fare and then he disappeared), it would move
things forward.
 
Faré | 12 Nov 2005 00:55
Picon
Gravatar

Re: mediawiki

I created a database account for the Tunes wiki. I still have issues
with keeping a regular schedule for working, sleeping, eating, tunes,
etc. Use IM or SMS for any urgent issue (ask in private).

On 11/11/05, Thomas Novelli <tnovelli <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm having LocalSettings.php problems too... I turned off "Your Logo Here"
> the other day, and the change took immediate effect, without restarting
> wiki.  Now it's back, and LocalSettings seems to have no effect.  Obviously
> I need to solve that problem... probably permissions or something.  Man, PHP
> is ugly -- C, Perl, and HTML, combined -- and this is a complex piece of
> software... But, it works for Wikipedia...
>
>  On the upside, I'm ready to bulk-import CLiki pages to Mediawiki.
>
>  Tril/Fare/Brian: Will I need root's intervention to setup a Mysql database?
>  And should we use the 'tunes' account, or create a separate wiki account?
>
>  BTW, Fare's not missing, he's just ignoring us. Look at his Livejournal...

[ François-René ÐVB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ]
"As an adolescent I aspired to lasting fame, I craved factual certainty, and
I thirsted for a meaningful vision of human life -- so I became a scientist.
This is like becoming an archbishop so you can meet girls."
                -- Matt Cartmill

Faré | 14 Nov 2005 06:16
Picon
Gravatar

Fwd: The special session of IPMU 2006 on Metaknowledge has been accepted

If any of you can be in France next year, here's a conference that
will feature a session on Metaknowledge...

[ François-René ÐVB Rideau | Reflection&Cybernethics | http://fare.tunes.org ]
No man would listen to you talk if he didn't know it was his turn next.
                -- Edgar Watson Howe

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Tristan Cazenave <cazenave <at> ai.univ-paris8.fr>
Date: 10-Nov-2005 09:01
Subject: The special session of IPMU 2006 on Metaknowledge has been accepted
To: undisclosed-recipients

               Special session on Metaknowledge

                         IPMU 2006
                  Paris, France, July 2-7, 2006
                    http://ipmu2006.lip6.fr/

                  Organizer : Tristan Cazenave

This session will focus on knowledge about knowledge (Metaknowledge) and
reasoning about reasoning (Metareasoning). When a system has to handle
large and possibly hetereogenous knowledge sources it can be useful to
use metaknowledge in order to use, transform, find, or discover
knowledge. Similarly when a system has different reasoning
possibilities, it can be useful to use metareasoning to reason, choose,
or monitor reasoning.

Keywords : Metaknowledge, Metareasoning, Self-Observation,
Metaprogramming, Reflection

Important dates :

December 15th, 2005 :  Papers Submission Deadline
February 1st, 2006 :   Notification of acceptance/rejection
March 31st, 2006 :     Camera-ready papers Deadline

The papers should be sent to cazenave <at> ai.univ-paris8.fr in pdf format.

Conference in Paris July 2-7th, 2006

http://ipmu2006.lip6.fr/

Best regards,

Tristan Cazenave.

Thomas Novelli | 15 Nov 2005 04:48
Picon
Gravatar

Mediawiki is up

Mediawiki is up and running:
   http://tunes.org/wiki

Yes, I've imported the CLiki stuff... Please let me know if you find anything majorly wrong in the conversion.  I was about to make this announcement an hour ago when I discovered a huge mistake, so it wouldn't surprise me if there are more... If, however, the bulk of the pages are OK now, we'll live with it. They all need major editing, anyway.

Enjoy...
 - Tom

Brian Rice | 15 Nov 2005 05:24
Favicon

Re: Mediawiki is up

Excellent! Thanks for taking your time to do this.

On Nov 14, 2005, at 7:48 PM, Thomas Novelli wrote:

> Mediawiki is up and running:
>    http://tunes.org/wiki
>
> Yes, I've imported the CLiki stuff... Please let me know if you  
> find anything majorly wrong in the conversion.

Actually, I don't see the pages linked or in the recent changes. How  
do I reach them?

>   I was about to make this announcement an hour ago when I  
> discovered a huge mistake, so it wouldn't surprise me if there are  
> more... If, however, the bulk of the pages are OK now, we'll live  
> with it. They all need major editing, anyway.

They definitely need editing, but more importantly, did you figure  
out how to e.g. disable anonymous edits or spam black-list content?

--
-Brian
http://tunes.org/~water/brice.vcf

Brian Rice | 15 Nov 2005 05:28
Favicon

Re: Mediawiki is up


On Nov 14, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Brian Rice wrote:
> On Nov 14, 2005, at 7:48 PM, Thomas Novelli wrote:
>> Mediawiki is up and running:
>>    http://tunes.org/wiki
>>
>> Yes, I've imported the CLiki stuff... Please let me know if you  
>> find anything majorly wrong in the conversion.
>
> Actually, I don't see the pages linked or in the recent changes.  
> How do I reach them?

Never-mind this: Of course, I can reach them by typing in the page  
name directly. Site organization can be worked on incrementally.

--
-Brian
http://tunes.org/~water/brice.vcf

Massimo Dentico | 15 Nov 2005 06:11
Picon
Favicon

Path to "all pages" (was: Mediawiki is up)


Brian Rice wrote:

> Excellent! Thanks for taking your time to do this.

Yes, thank you very much Thomas.

> Actually, I don't see the pages linked or in the recent
> changes. How do I reach them?

I will explain in much details the path to "All pages"
for the benefit of all on the mailing list.

Under "search", on the left, there is in "toolbox" the link
"Special pages"

  http://tunes.org/wiki/index.php/Special:Specialpages

The first link in that page is "All pages"

  http://tunes.org/wiki/index.php/Special:Allpages

where you choose the starting page and (leaving the edit
box blank and pressing the OK button) you finally arrive
here

  http://tunes.org/wiki/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=&namespace=0

A final concern: can we redirect a path like

  http://cliki.tues.org/%s

in the actual

  http://tunes.org/wiki/index.php/%s

or is it too much work?

Regards.

--
Massimo Dentico

Massimo Dentico | 15 Nov 2005 06:24
Picon
Favicon

Very short URL (was: Path to "all pages")

Well, I was hurried. Replying to myself:

> A final concern: can we redirect a path like
> 
>  http://cliki.tues.org/%s
> 
> in the actual
> 
>  http://tunes.org/wiki/index.php/%s
> 
> or is it too much work?

Yes, there is:

  "Using a very short URL"
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Using_a_very_short_URL

But it seems quite intrusive and dangerous from the
description. Also, see:

  "Eliminating index.php from the url"
  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Eliminating_index.php_from_the_url

Regards.

--
Massimo Dentico


Gmane