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Mark Benson | 17 Jun 2011 22:55
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Re: Passing on some news..

On 17 Jun 2011, at 20:04, Bill Bradford wrote:

> http://www.sunhelp.org/2011/06/17/oracle-solaris-11-drops-support-for-legacy-sun-hardware/

Larry Ellison - **** him.

Seriously though, although some of the higher end systems are still viable, the low end stuff is going on for
15-20 years old. I'm aware enterprise legacy is a lot longer than consumer markets but Oracle are not Sun.
This is all stuff they can do without supporting in a current OS, and they can provide Solaris 9 and 10 for
these systems still.

Shrewd move if you ask me. Kinda sad for those wanting to upgrade on older hardware, but I can't say I didn't
expect it.

There still remains the thorn that there's no Solaris 10 hobbyist license of any kind to run older machines
with Sol10 without a service deal. Can't see Oracle changing that. It's the part that really bugs me to be
honest, especially while I'm sitting here laying with a Hobbyist licensed version of OpenVMS (thanks HP!!).

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Adam Victor Reed | 18 Jun 2011 00:26
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Re: Passing on some news..

Where did Oracle put the Solaris 9 ISOs? I will need them if I need to
re-image my legacy systems, but I can't find them... Does anyone have a
current URL for download from Oracle?

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On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 09:55:37PM +0100, Mark Benson wrote:
> On 17 Jun 2011, at 20:04, Bill Bradford wrote:
> 
> > http://www.sunhelp.org/2011/06/17/oracle-solaris-11-drops-support-for-legacy-sun-hardware/
> 
> Larry Ellison - **** him.
> 
> Seriously though, although some of the higher end systems are still viable, the low end stuff is going on
for 15-20 years old. I'm aware enterprise legacy is a lot longer than consumer markets but Oracle are not
Sun. This is all stuff they can do without supporting in a current OS, and they can provide Solaris 9 and 10
for these systems still.
> 
> Shrewd move if you ask me. Kinda sad for those wanting to upgrade on older hardware, but I can't say I didn't
expect it.
> 
> There still remains the thorn that there's no Solaris 10 hobbyist license of any kind to run older machines
with Sol10 without a service deal. Can't see Oracle changing that. It's the part that really bugs me to be
honest, especially while I'm sitting here laying with a Hobbyist licensed version of OpenVMS (thanks HP!!).
> 
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Brian Richman | 18 Jun 2011 02:13
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Re: Passing on some news..

Looks like if it isn't an Exa-something, it might soon be time to move on... 
At least my M5000 and T2000 boxes will carry on for a few years yet. 

Guess
we had better prepare our management for the move to dump more Oracle hardware
and Software sooner than would have been optimal on the cost-efficiency curve
for us... 

Larry Ellison? BYEEEEEEEEEE...

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Sandwich Maker | 18 Jun 2011 04:39
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Re: [rescue] Passing on some news..

" From: Bill Bradford <mrbill <at> mrbill.net>
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" http://www.sunhelp.org/2011/06/17/oracle-solaris-11-drops-support-for-legacy-sun-hardware/

yikes!  that's rather a long list...  but when did s10/s11 ever support
us1 in the first place [not counting alphas/betas]?
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Jerry Kemp | 18 Jun 2011 06:08

Re: Passing on some news..

From my documentation, Solaris 10 Express release (11/03) was the last
release to support the Ultra 1 platform.  Support for the Ultra 1 could
easily be shoe-horned back in.

I have high hopes that support for Ultra III && IV systems can be
shoe-horned back into Solaris 11.  Obviously this would be for my hobby
support.  $WORK has been on T series and M series boxes for years.

Probably a better option would be to see what the Illumos/OpenIndiana
people are doing.

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In a separate note, I am hoping I can shoe-horn Rosetta back into Mac OS
X 10.7/Lion.  :)

Jerry

On 06/17/11 21:39, Sandwich Maker wrote:

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> yikes!  that's rather a long list...  but when did s10/s11 ever support
> us1 in the first place [not counting alphas/betas]?
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Sandwich Maker | 18 Jun 2011 15:21
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Re: Passing on some news..

" From: Adam Victor Reed <areed2 <at> calstatela.edu>
" 
" Where did Oracle put the Solaris 9 ISOs? I will need them if I need to
" re-image my legacy systems, but I can't find them... Does anyone have a
" current URL for download from Oracle?

i believe they removed them - oracle doesn't believe in -giving- stuff
away.  i'd like to be proved wrong in this case though.
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Jerry Kemp | 18 Jun 2011 17:27

Re: Passing on some news..

I thought that the Solaris 9 stuff disappeared long before Oracle
purchased Sun.

Jerry

On 06/18/11 08:21, Sandwich Maker wrote:
> " From: Adam Victor Reed <areed2 <at> calstatela.edu>
> " 
> " Where did Oracle put the Solaris 9 ISOs? I will need them if I need to
> " re-image my legacy systems, but I can't find them... Does anyone have a
> " current URL for download from Oracle?
> 
> i believe they removed them - oracle doesn't believe in -giving- stuff
> away.  i'd like to be proved wrong in this case though.
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Javier Augusto | 18 Jun 2011 17:53
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Re: Passing on some news..


according to http://proisk.ru/?q=sol-9

hope it helps...

ftp://ftp.gldn.net/pub/software/Solaris/sol-9
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stephen price | 30 Jun 2011 18:33
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netapp training materials

Anybody have any netapp courseware 101 books that I could borrow for a couple of days.  I'll pay round-trip
fedex etc.
Just got informed that I'm now the $WORK netapp expert for an Evaluation that $WORK is supposed to perform
with zero training in a short amount of time - and there is no support provided by NetApp - no account login etc.
Never administered one in my life.......
Suggestions welcome .....
regards
steve
dfw tx
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Dave Sailors | 30 Jun 2011 18:57

Re: netapp training materials

Here's a link to the man pages. There's a command line interface that
you can access from an ssh connection. I use putty ssh. You need the
root password.

http://now.netapp.com/NOW/public/knowledge/docs/ontap/rel732/pdfs/ontap/
210-04499.pdf

The easiest way to admin a netapp is to use the web interface. To access
it if it's up go to
http://netapp2/na_admin/

replace netapp2 with the DNS name of your netapp filer. Again you need
the root password. Id is root.

Dave

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Subject: [SunHELP] netapp training materials

Anybody have any netapp courseware 101 books that I could borrow for a
couple of days.  I'll pay round-trip fedex etc.
Just got informed that I'm now the $WORK netapp expert for an Evaluation
that $WORK is supposed to perform with zero training in a short amount
of time - and there is no support provided by NetApp - no account login
etc.
Never administered one in my life.......
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