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electroteque | 4 Mar 2006 02:47
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Sun Fire V100 and large drives over 80GB

Hi there I was wondering if anyone can help me, i am lookin at fitting 
a drive into my server which is larger than 80GB , am i required to 
purchase the sun supplied seagate drive , or can i fit a larger seagate 
drive purchased locally ? ive attempted to fit a 200G drive before and 
it would only recognise a portion of it. What is the limit there , i 
will be planning to install bsd instead of solaris also.
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Sandwich Maker | 5 Mar 2006 19:34
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Re: Sun Fire V100 and large drives over 80GB

" From: electroteque <spam <at> electroteque.org>
" 
" Hi there I was wondering if anyone can help me, i am lookin at fitting 
" a drive into my server which is larger than 80GB, am i required to 
" purchase the sun supplied seagate drive, or can i fit a larger seagate 
" drive purchased locally? i've attempted to fit a 200G drive before and 
" it would only recognise a portion of it. What is the limit there, i 
" will be planning to install bsd instead of solaris also.

there's no particular need to use sun drives.  

did you hit the wall at 137G with that 200G drive?  starting with the
u5/u10 and for a long time - maybe still - sun's ide suffers from the
lba48 limit -- it can't physically address more than 137G/disk.  this
has nothing to do with whose drive it is.

also, some solarii - 2.5.1 and 2.6 for sure - couldn't properly
autodetect large [>8G] geometries in format, requiring you to enter
dummied-up values by hand to make the full space of the drives
available.
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electroteque | 6 Mar 2006 00:26
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Re: Sun Fire V100 and large drives over 80GB

On 06/03/2006, at 5:34 AM, Sandwich Maker wrote:

> " From: electroteque <spam <at> electroteque.org>
> "
> " Hi there I was wondering if anyone can help me, i am lookin at 
> fitting
> " a drive into my server which is larger than 80GB, am i required to
> " purchase the sun supplied seagate drive, or can i fit a larger 
> seagate
> " drive purchased locally? i've attempted to fit a 200G drive before 
> and
> " it would only recognise a portion of it. What is the limit there, i
> " will be planning to install bsd instead of solaris also.
>
> there's no particular need to use sun drives.
>
> did you hit the wall at 137G with that 200G drive?

I think it was much less than that , like the drive loaded fine , it 
just couldnt see the entire volume ?

> starting with the
> u5/u10 and for a long time - maybe still - sun's ide suffers from the
> lba48 limit -- it can't physically address more than 137G/disk.  this
> has nothing to do with whose drive it is.

what is the u5 and u10 ? I assume i can be safe just getting a 120GB 
drive ?

>
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Sandwich Maker | 6 Mar 2006 01:08
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Re: Sun Fire V100 and large drives over 80GB

" From: electroteque <spam <at> electroteque.org>
" 
" On 06/03/2006, at 5:34 AM, Sandwich Maker wrote:
" 
" > " From: electroteque <spam <at> electroteque.org>
" > "
" > " Hi there I was wondering if anyone can help me, i am lookin at 
" > fitting
" > " a drive into my server which is larger than 80GB, am i required to
" > " purchase the sun supplied seagate drive, or can i fit a larger 
" > seagate
" > " drive purchased locally? i've attempted to fit a 200G drive before 
" > and
" > " it would only recognise a portion of it. What is the limit there, i
" > " will be planning to install bsd instead of solaris also.
" >
" > there's no particular need to use sun drives.
" >
" > did you hit the wall at 137G with that 200G drive?
" 
" I think it was much less than that , like the drive loaded fine , it 
" just couldnt see the entire volume ?

i don't know, then.

" > starting with the
" > u5/u10 and for a long time - maybe still - sun's ide suffers from the
" > lba48 limit -- it can't physically address more than 137G/disk.  this
" > has nothing to do with whose drive it is.
"
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electroteque | 6 Mar 2006 02:46
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Re: Sun Fire V100 and large drives over 80GB

Ok cheers, 120G drive it is. I recently just purchased a 1GB stick of  
ram for the V100, its a 550 processor so i researched that it can  
handle 1GB stick rather than 2x 550mb sticks. Lets see how that goes.

On 06/03/2006, at 11:08 AM, Sandwich Maker wrote:

> " From: electroteque <spam <at> electroteque.org>
> "
> " On 06/03/2006, at 5:34 AM, Sandwich Maker wrote:
> "
> " > " From: electroteque <spam <at> electroteque.org>
> " > "
> " > " Hi there I was wondering if anyone can help me, i am lookin at
> " > fitting
> " > " a drive into my server which is larger than 80GB, am i required  
> to
> " > " purchase the sun supplied seagate drive, or can i fit a larger
> " > seagate
> " > " drive purchased locally? i've attempted to fit a 200G drive  
> before
> " > and
> " > " it would only recognise a portion of it. What is the limit  
> there, i
> " > " will be planning to install bsd instead of solaris also.
> " >
> " > there's no particular need to use sun drives.
> " >
> " > did you hit the wall at 137G with that 200G drive?
> "
> " I think it was much less than that , like the drive loaded fine , it
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Dale Ghent | 6 Mar 2006 04:32

Re: Sun Fire V100 and large drives over 80GB

On Mar 3, 2006, at 8:47 PM, electroteque wrote:

> Hi there I was wondering if anyone can help me, i am lookin at fitting
> a drive into my server which is larger than 80GB , am i required to
> purchase the sun supplied seagate drive , or can i fit a larger  
> seagate
> drive purchased locally ? ive attempted to fit a 200G drive before and
> it would only recognise a portion of it. What is the limit there , i
> will be planning to install bsd instead of solaris also.

the ALi chipset used on the V100 (and on the Netra X1 as well)  
supports up to ATA-100, so you're limited to 137GB drives as the max.

/dale
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electroteque | 6 Mar 2006 05:49
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Re: Sun Fire V100 and large drives over 80GB

Ahh its only ATA100 ? Lets just hope this ram module works then :\

On 06/03/2006, at 2:32 PM, Dale Ghent wrote:

> On Mar 3, 2006, at 8:47 PM, electroteque wrote:
>
>> Hi there I was wondering if anyone can help me, i am lookin at fitting
>> a drive into my server which is larger than 80GB , am i required to
>> purchase the sun supplied seagate drive , or can i fit a larger
>> seagate
>> drive purchased locally ? ive attempted to fit a 200G drive before and
>> it would only recognise a portion of it. What is the limit there , i
>> will be planning to install bsd instead of solaris also.
>
> the ALi chipset used on the V100 (and on the Netra X1 as well)
> supports up to ATA-100, so you're limited to 137GB drives as the max.
>
> /dale
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Dale Ghent | 6 Mar 2006 06:32

Re: Sun Fire V100 and large drives over 80GB

The ALi M1535 the V100 and X1 uses has nothing to do with RAM. This  
southbridge chip provides just the ATA, serial, and USB controllers  
for the system. It's the UltraSPARC IIe/i CPUs used in the V100/X1  
that have the on-board memory controllers... and as you suspect, V100  
models with >= 550Mhz CPU can address up to 1GB per DIMM slot.

In case you don't have them on hand, the following are the memory  
notes for the V100:

Memory Notes
The memory installation sequence is Slot 3, 2, 1, and 0.
Each DIMM slot addresses 512MB with <550MHz UltraSPARC IIe.
Each DIMM slot addresses 1GB with >=550MHz UltraSPARC IIi.
When equal size DIMMs are installed, the lowest slot number is mapped  
to the lowest address range.
When mixed size DIMMs are installed, the slot number with the largest  
size DIMM is mapped to the lowest address range.

/dale

On Mar 5, 2006, at 11:49 PM, electroteque wrote:

> Ahh its only ATA100 ? Lets just hope this ram module works then :\
>
> On 06/03/2006, at 2:32 PM, Dale Ghent wrote:
>
>> On Mar 3, 2006, at 8:47 PM, electroteque wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there I was wondering if anyone can help me, i am lookin at  
>>> fitting
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George Munk | 6 Mar 2006 15:45

Re: Sun Fire V100 and large drives over 80GB

One other comment about 120 GB drives. We bought and used some Western
Digital 120 GB drives in some of our V100s. When one of them failed, the
replacement drive which was the exact same model, prevented the system
from booting. This occurred using all versions of Solaris 9 that we
tried and with multiple newer disks. The problem didn't occur with
Solaris 10. I don't recall the exact message but the implication was
that Solaris 9 was trying to get or set a drive parameter and hung when
it wasn't able to.

George

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Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Sun Fire V100 and large drives over 80GB

Ok cheers, 120G drive it is. I recently just purchased a 1GB stick of
ram for the V100, its a 550 processor so i researched that it can
handle 1GB stick rather than 2x 550mb sticks. Lets see how that goes.

On 06/03/2006, at 11:08 AM, Sandwich Maker wrote:

> " From: electroteque <spam <at> electroteque.org>
> "
> " On 06/03/2006, at 5:34 AM, Sandwich Maker wrote:
> "
> " > " From: electroteque <spam <at> electroteque.org>
> " > "
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electroteque | 6 Mar 2006 16:09
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Re: Sun Fire V100 and large drives over 80GB

Sounds like a Solaris 9 problem then ? Im getting a 160GB drive even 
though ill only be able to use 137GB of it :D I did read on google that 
S9 needed to be patched, patching is a nightmare in S9 i wont go there 
:D

On 07/03/2006, at 1:45 AM, George Munk wrote:

> One other comment about 120 GB drives. We bought and used some Western
> Digital 120 GB drives in some of our V100s. When one of them failed, 
> the
> replacement drive which was the exact same model, prevented the system
> from booting. This occurred using all versions of Solaris 9 that we
> tried and with multiple newer disks. The problem didn't occur with
> Solaris 10. I don't recall the exact message but the implication was
> that Solaris 9 was trying to get or set a drive parameter and hung when
> it wasn't able to.
>
> George
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sunhelp-bounces <at> sunhelp.org [mailto:sunhelp-bounces <at> sunhelp.org]
> On Behalf Of electroteque
> Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 6:47 PM
> To: The SunHELP List
> Subject: Re: [SunHELP] Sun Fire V100 and large drives over 80GB
>
> Ok cheers, 120G drive it is. I recently just purchased a 1GB stick of
> ram for the V100, its a 550 processor so i researched that it can
> handle 1GB stick rather than 2x 550mb sticks. Lets see how that goes.
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