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Adrian Saul | 1 Apr 12:40

Re: SSH Problem


That message gets generated by explorer running - it runs some outdated 
ndd commands which trigger this message.

What has this got to do with /etc/default/passwd though?

Jellf J B Nainggolan wrote:
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> Here i send you, receive from /etc/default/passwd
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> osn4 ip: [ID 766727 kern.warning] WARNING: The <if>:ip*_forwarding ndd 
> variables are obsolete and may be removed in a future release of 
> Solaris. Use ifconfig(1M) to manipulate the forwarding status of an 
> interface.
>
> What kind of problem with that log report?
>
> Jellf J B Nainggolan
> +6281392632420
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> To: solarisx86 <at> yahoogroups.com <mailto:solarisx86%40yahoogroups.com>
> From: skiprof <at> cox.net <mailto:skiprof%40cox.net>
> Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 12:16:35 -0700
> Subject: Re: [solarisx86] SSH Problem
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> Jellf J B Nainggolan wrote:
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> > Hi all,
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Phil Savoie | 3 Apr 18:25
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OpenSolaris Anon FTP Server Probs

Hello All,

I had tried to set up an anonymous ftpo server using the latest
OpenSolaris Edition.  I have run ftpconfig <dirname> to set up the ftp
environment and svcadm enable ftp.  Seem that I can connect and ls but
when to dl files the server always disconnects.

Does anyone know the magic incantation to enlighten me as to why and how
 to avoid having this frustrating problem re-occur?

Thank in advance,

Phil

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dick hoogendijk | 3 Apr 22:08
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consumer grade drives

I would like some advise on -good- consumer grade drives. Would it be
Hitachi, WD or Seagate? SATA2 / 750Gb-1Tb? Any advice would be very
much appreciated.

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Bob Netherton | 3 Apr 22:14
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Re: consumer grade drives

dick hoogendijk wrote:
> I would like some advise on -good- consumer grade drives. Would it be
> Hitachi, WD or Seagate? SATA2 / 750Gb-1Tb? Any advice would be very
> much appreciated.
>
>   

I have been using Seagate SATA drives for quite a while and have been
very pleased with their performance and reliability.   I wouldn't have
any other disk in my system at home.    Getting ready to plunk in a
couple of 1.5TB disks.  My iTunes music library is out of space - like
that's never happened to anyone :-)     My ZFS roots will get another
space increase as a result.

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Michael McKnight | 3 Apr 22:56
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Re: consumer grade drives

Hello,

I have several servers here at the house and have used Solaris x86 at 
home ever since v2.5.1 -- I have been through my share of drives!

Of all the drives I have used, I have had the absolute worst experience 
with Western Digital drives.  Whether it be in servers or desktops, 
these drives simply don't last.  I heard they increased their warranty 
to compete with Seagate, but I still wont buy them.

I have used Maxtor drives in the past without problems.  I'm not sure if 
they are still around or not, but they seemed to hold up pretty good.

I have switched to Seagate drives over the past couple of years.  What 
drove me to them was the continual failure of WD drives and Seagates 
standard warranty (5 years, at that time).

One thing to keep in mind is how hot you let any drive get... especially 
if there are multiple drives packed close together within a server 
chassis.  I have noticed significantly longer lifetimes for drives that 
I keep cool.  Significant being years.  Choose a case with direct drive 
cooling fans... fans that blow across the drives (all of them).

Beyond all of that, and to your basic question, any consumer level drive 
should work well if you keep it cool.  My personal experience with WD 
will undoubtedly be countered by someone who loves them.  Thats ok... in 
general, all the modern SATA2 drives are good.  I would recommend that 
you stay with the brands that have 3-5 year warranties on them, 
especially if they will never be turned off once they are installed.
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Bob Netherton | 3 Apr 23:26
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Re: consumer grade drives

Michael McKnight wrote:
> Of all the drives I have used, I have had the absolute worst experience 
> with Western Digital drives.

+1 on that.

> One thing to keep in mind is how hot you let any drive get... especially 
> if there are multiple drives packed close together within a server 
> chassis.  I have noticed significantly longer lifetimes for drives that 
> I keep cool.  Significant being years.  Choose a case with direct drive 
> cooling fans... fans that blow across the drives (all of them).
>   

Also a consideration for external enclosures.   The cheap cans
that don't vent don't last - especially if you put WD disks in them.
I have an Antec with a small fan - amazing what a little more
clearance and a bit of air flow will do for disk life.

Bob

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Matt Banks | 4 Apr 01:16
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Re: consumer grade drives


On Apr 3, 2009, at 2:08 PM, dick hoogendijk wrote:

> I would like some advise on -good- consumer grade drives. Would it be
> Hitachi, WD or Seagate? SATA2 / 750Gb-1Tb? Any advice would be very
> much appreciated.
>

Personally, I agree with the others in that WD has given me poor  
results.  Many people have had the opposite experience, so it's a big  
YMMV.  Maxtor is now part of Seagate (since 2006), so that's out.

Really, I think in the consumer space, you've got WD, Seagate,  
Samsung, and Hitachi.  I've had good success with Seagate's 7200.10  
and .11 series of drives (though there was a firmware debacle a while  
ago, but they fixed it in a few days.)  I've also had good success  
with Hitachi's (though some will never forgive the "DeathStar" debacle  
of a few years ago while the division was under IBM) but found that  
they're a tad bit slower than the Seagates.  I have only owned one  
Samsung, and it was unremarkable - meaning it just worked.  It didn't  
have absolutely stellar speeds (it was not an F1) but it never let me  
down either.

My point is:  Most of the time, you'll be fine with anything out there  
- but it's often luck of the draw.  Sometimes you pick up a bad one.   
As soon as I say "I've never had an IBM/Hitachi drive die on me" there  
will be someone else saying just the opposite...

Seagate's ES series (and ES.2) are slightly more expensive, but tend  
to be closer to "server grade" stuff if that interests you at all.
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Ian Collins | 4 Apr 02:59
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Re: consumer grade drives

Bob Netherton wrote:
> Michael McKnight wrote:
>> One thing to keep in mind is how hot you let any drive get... especially 
>> if there are multiple drives packed close together within a server 
>> chassis.  I have noticed significantly longer lifetimes for drives that 
>> I keep cool.  Significant being years.  Choose a case with direct drive 
>> cooling fans... fans that blow across the drives (all of them).
>>   
>>     
>
> Also a consideration for external enclosures.   The cheap cans
> that don't vent don't last - especially if you put WD disks in them.
> I have an Antec with a small fan - amazing what a little more
> clearance and a bit of air flow will do for disk life.
>
>   
I recently built a core i7 system in one of these CoolerMaster cases:

http://www.coolermaster.com/products/product.php?act=detail&id=3927

They have a nifty 3.5'' drive insert with rubber bush drive mountings 
and a large and silent fan which keeps the drives cool.

This is the quietest system I have ever built, so quiet I though is 
wasn't working when I first powered it up!

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Mike & Carol Riley | 4 Apr 05:05
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Re: consumer grade drives

I have done well with Seagate and Fujitsu drives.

I also try to insure they don't overheat by either keeping them spaced out in the case or employing fans.  In my
large system I have four drive in the front with fan cases that allow me to place them in the 5.25" slots
there.  The air blowing across them then blows on the tops and bottoms and then onto the drives in the rear
case as well.  None of the drives seems to get hot to the touch.

In my Acer Ferrari the drive ended up overheating and frying the electronics.  I swapped out that board with
one from another drive to recover it.  Using a laptop cooler has preventing any overheating since I noticed
the problem.

Mike

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> Hello,
> 
> I have several servers here at the house and have used Solaris x86 at 
> home ever since v2.5.1 -- I have been through my share of drives!
> 
> Of all the drives I have used, I have had the absolute worst experience 
> with Western Digital drives.  Whether it be in servers or desktops, 
> these drives simply don't last.  I heard they increased their warranty 
> to compete with Seagate, but I still wont buy them.
> 
> I have used Maxtor drives in the past without problems.  I'm not sure if 
> they are still around or not, but they seemed to hold up pretty good.
> 
> I have switched to Seagate drives over the past couple of years.  What 
> drove me to them was the continual failure of WD drives and Seagates 
> standard warranty (5 years, at that time).
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Dick Hoogendijk | 4 Apr 10:57
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Re: consumer grade drives

On 04/04/09 01:16, Matt Banks wrote:

> On Apr 3, 2009, at 2:08 PM, dick hoogendijk wrote:
>  > I would like some advise on -good- consumer grade drives. Would it be
>  > Hitachi, WD or Seagate? SATA2 / 750Gb-1Tb? Any advice would be very
>  > much appreciated.
>  >
>
> Personally, I agree with the others in that WD has given me poor
> results. Many people have had the opposite experience, so it's a big
> YMMV.

True, but in general I heard the same about WD's. A pity 'cause their 
"green" drive seem to be nice and quite ;-)

> Really, I think in the consumer space, you've got WD, Seagate,
> Samsung, and Hitachi.
> Seagate's ES series (and ES.2) are slightly more expensive, but tend
> to be closer to "server grade" stuff if that interests you at all.

I knew about the ES.x series. I lack the knowledge to decide on the 
pro's for these drives. The price duobles the one I pay for a normal 
7200.11 That's a lot for things I don't know well enough.
(I also saw the 7200.12 series is out)

Thanks to all for the advice given so far. I think it'll be some Seagate 
drives. Have to decide on the (non) ES2 status. Advice?

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