disussion from forum
2007-08-13 20:22:34 GMT
Hi ReactOS guy's,
are you not able to discuss a topic in your forum or why did you delete my post in http://www.reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4307 ?
Here is it again:
The irc meetings, there are two I think. It was voting on how to do the audit. Later if I remember right, we started movie review and joking around with unrelated issues.
I'm missing something about the meetings. [url=http://www.reactos.org/archives/public/ros-dev/2006-January/007478.html]Steven Edwards's mail[/url] starts with:
There has been a lot of talk about possible tainted code in ReactOS and or developers that had access to leaked Microsoft source code.
We know of four developers who have had access to leaked sources prior to working on ReactOS..
Depend on the [url= http://www.reactos.org/en/dev_legalreview.html]ReactOS project development policy[/url]
[quote="ReactOS project development policy"]
Developers who have had access to proprietary source code that would have originally fallen under trade secret protection (including, for example, the leaked Microsoft Windows source code) are a special case. The copyright issues are unchanged, as are the patent issues, but any developer who has the code is clearly either under an NDA or else does not have a license to possess the code. In the latter case, there is a clear violation of the relevant trade secrets by the developer. As such, this kind of code is unsuitable even for research and understanding. It is the policy of the Project to not take submissions from developers who hav e or use any such proprietary code in their development efforts for ReactOS.
this developers have to be banned from the project. Steven's mail or the developer's voting wasn't so restrictive:
4) any developer that had access to leaked sources is baned from contributing code to the project for any of the modules that are the
same as leaked sources they examined.
The question is, why are the tainted developers not banned? If only a few of the developers had access to the leaked windows source code, it is not a problem to ban them. I think more than four developers had access to the leaked windows source code. In this case it will never get a vote for banning the tainted developers, because they must ban itself. It exists the 'Open letter to all' from Alex. I've got the original mail with all the names from one of the developers.
[quote="Alex's 'Open letter to all'"]
/*Steven, Aleksey, Mike and myself had leaked windows code and looked at it. KJK, Eric, Filip, Magnus and Marteen had IDA and used it for reverse engineering. 9 developers, and these are only some cases.*/ Herve too, sometimes used IDA to verify some flags (I once helped him understand a weird DEVICE_EXTENSION structure), and Thomas, although against reverse-engineering, also used IDA to verify some implementations, although he said he never used it to actually reverse-engineer, and I believe him, although, once you have seen the taint, it's hard to really psycologically prove how much you were, or were not influenced by it. /*With more then 2/3rds of the entire developer team having broken the law and/or our IP pol icy, I continued my work in the same way.*/
Now the story make sense. The implementation of ReactOS is based on the leaked windows source code and possible more than the four named developers had or have access to this code.
As you all can see, things have gone on to this project. Money was the key word here. Wine, Casper, GvG, hbirr etc,,, mass manipulation to gain from other peoples work.
And now it makes sense why you accuse some of the developers, which had left the project, that they have done something for money...
The only developer, which has something to do with money, is Alex. In May he was bought by Microsoft.
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