J.R. Mauro | 1 Aug 2009 03:56
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Re: just an idea (Splashtop like)

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:50 PM, David Leimbach<leimy2k <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>  A buddy of mine just got this: asus p5ql/epu motherboard.  It came with
> Splashtop:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Splashtop
> ... which is a linux distribution that boots in like 5 seconds or so.
>  Complete with BlackBox for a window manager, Skype, an instant messager
> client and firefox.
> I wonder if it could be changed to be a plan 9 terminal, or if one could at
> least get 9vx on it.
> Dave

Doesn't ASUS burn the Linux distro into a chip, though? Maybe there
are utilities to flash it with something else.

ron minnich | 1 Aug 2009 05:12
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Re: just an idea (Splashtop like)

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:56 PM, J.R. Mauro<jrm8005 <at> gmail.com> wrote:

> Doesn't ASUS burn the Linux distro into a chip, though? Maybe there
> are utilities to flash it with something else.

see flashrom at coreboot.org

This is a great idea assuming we can get a mobo that plan 9 can use.

ron

Roman Shaposhnik | 1 Aug 2009 07:24
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Re: ceph


On Jul 30, 2009, at 9:31 AM, sqweek wrote:

> 2009/7/30 Roman V Shaposhnik <rvs <at> sun.com>:
>> This is sort of off-topic, but does anybody have any experience with
>> Ceph?
>>   http://ceph.newdream.net/
>>
>> Good or bad war stories (and general thoughts) would be quite  
>> welcome.
>
> Not with ceph itself, but the description and terminology they use
> remind me a lot of lustre (seems like it's a userspace version) which
> we use at work. Does a damn fine job - as long as you get a stable
> version. We have run into issues trying out new versions several
> times...

I guess that sums up my impression of ceph so far: I don't see where it
would fit. I think that in HPC it is 99% Lustre, in enterprise it is  
either
CIFS or NFS, etc.

There's some internal push for it around here so I was wondering
whether I missed a memo once again...

Thanks,
Roman.

ron minnich | 1 Aug 2009 07:41
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Re: ceph

I'm not a big fan of lustre. In fact I'm talking to someone who really
wants 9p working well so he can have lustre on all but a few nodes,
and those lustre nodes export 9p.

ron

Roman Shaposhnik | 1 Aug 2009 07:53
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Re: ceph

On Jul 31, 2009, at 10:41 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> I'm not a big fan of lustre. In fact I'm talking to someone who really
> wants 9p working well so he can have lustre on all but a few nodes,
> and those lustre nodes export 9p.

What are your clients running? What are their requirements as
far as POSIX is concerned? How much storage are talking about?

I'd be interested in discussing some aspects of what you're trying to
accomplish with 9P for the HPC guys.

Thanks,
Roman.

P.S. If it is ok with everybody else -- I'll keep the conversation on  
the list.

Uriel | 1 Aug 2009 13:30
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Re: off topic: manual sets

Thanks to Fish's contribution I have made the Unix 8th Edition manuals
available at:

http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/

Tons of fascinating stuff there, including the jerq docs in section 9
( http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/9/ ) and what I think is the oldest
documentation of the /proc file system
(http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/4/proc ).

Fish also contributed some pages from section 1 of the Unix Writer's
Workbench: http://man.cat-v.org/unix_WWB/1/

Thanks again to Fish for this wonderful contributions, and of course
to the original authors of all this amazing material.

Peace

uriel

P.S.: I'm still working out a couple of kinks in the web interface
that make =(1) and Mail(1) inaccessible, but almost everything else
should work fine, if you notice any problems please let me know.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:01 PM, Uriel<uriel99 <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Slightly off topic (of this thread), but I'm looking for troff sources
> of 8th, 9th, 10th and Plan 9 1st Editions to complete the man page
> collections at http://man.cat-v.org
>
> If anyone knows where I can find copies of any of those, I would be
(Continue reading)

erik quanstrom | 1 Aug 2009 13:58
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Re: just an idea (Splashtop like)

On Fri Jul 31 23:13:51 EDT 2009, rminnich <at> gmail.com wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 6:56 PM, J.R. Mauro<jrm8005 <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Doesn't ASUS burn the Linux distro into a chip, though? Maybe there
> > are utilities to flash it with something else.
> 
> see flashrom at coreboot.org
> 
> This is a great idea assuming we can get a mobo that plan 9 can use.

why not just use normal hardware and buy a DOM for it?
none of coraid's machines, including the fileserver (!) have
spinning media.  only the srs (coraid storage appliances) do.

you can get a 128mb pata dom for $13 and sata for $30
at memorydepot.com (not an endorsement but i've purchased
from them before.)

i would imagine that regular mb + dom would be competitive
with the asus boards.

- erik

erik quanstrom | 1 Aug 2009 14:25
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Re: off topic: manual sets

> http://man.cat-v.org/unix_8th/

Super Bats!

- erik

tlaronde | 1 Aug 2009 16:51

Re: just an idea (Splashtop like)

On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 07:58:10AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote:
> 
> why not just use normal hardware and buy a DOM for it?
> none of coraid's machines, including the fileserver (!) have
> spinning media.  only the srs (coraid storage appliances) do.
> 
> you can get a 128mb pata dom for $13 and sata for $30
> at memorydepot.com (not an endorsement but i've purchased
> from them before.)

Well, if the DOM is compatible with traditionnal IDE it could be, too,
an option for installation: an easily pluggable HD instead of floppy or
CD.

I didn't even know that this exists... so thanks for the tip, Erik!
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erik quanstrom | 1 Aug 2009 16:57
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Re: just an idea (Splashtop like)

> Well, if the DOM is compatible with traditionnal IDE it could be, too,
> an option for installation: an easily pluggable HD instead of floppy or
> CD.

the dom is compatable with traditional ide, and with the distributed
sdata.c.  before i found the doms, i used a pata <-> cf bridge.

- erik


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