Kenji Okamoto | 1 Mar 02:30 2005
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Re: writing code

> coherent idea of identity?  what does a numeric user id mean?  what,
> for that matter, does a user name mean?  maybe this is where the ideas
> in SDSI/SPKI can help (see http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2693.html).

Sorry of mt delay to respond this, rog.
I have not enough time to read that RFC.

Now, I got what you were saying, however, I suppose it beyonds the
original scope of Plan 9 which was designed for.   She is (has been) for 
a somewhat closed affiliations such as a laboratory or a, say, departmetnt.   
However, you are aiming to expand it to wider system in the sense of 
location or network topology.   In this case, I agree the original design 
of Plan 9 may not fit to its need, as if Unix was so to Plan 9.

Then, my view of your proposal is that you'd better to design another
system than Plan 9, or you have to change it for that purpose, however,
is it really possible without causing complexity as such we've seen in the
developement of unices?   I have no idea for it.

Kenji

Matthias Teege | 1 Mar 13:03 2005
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> Just for the record, how many people are still running native systems?

Late, but I'm running native Plan9 Systems.  Dual proccessor
CPU/Fileserver, terminals and a standalone Plan9 on shuttle pc as demo
system.  The plan9 fileserver is my main filestorage and mailserver.

Matthias

Christian Grothaus | 1 Mar 14:35 2005
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> Just for the record, how many people are still running native systems?

Although it's "brain dead", I use a Thinkpad R40 as a 
standalone (and native) Plan 9 system with fossil/venti.
(Thanks for the radeon driver to Philippe Anel and
Latchesar Ionkov at this place! BTW: Can't the driver
be included in the distribution? Many current laptops
use ATI Radeon chipsets these days...)

Christian

Russ Cox | 1 Mar 15:03 2005
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> Although it's "brain dead", I use a Thinkpad R40 as a
> standalone (and native) Plan 9 system with fossil/venti.
> (Thanks for the radeon driver to Philippe Anel and
> Latchesar Ionkov at this place! BTW: Can't the driver
> be included in the distribution? Many current laptops
> use ATI Radeon chipsets these days...)

If someone submits it as a patch, we will include it.

Russ

fgergo | 1 Mar 15:33 2005
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On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:03:30 -0500, Russ Cox <russcox <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> > Although it's "brain dead", I use a Thinkpad R40 as a
> > standalone (and native) Plan 9 system with fossil/venti.
> > (Thanks for the radeon driver to Philippe Anel and
> > Latchesar Ionkov at this place! BTW: Can't the driver
> > be included in the distribution? Many current laptops
> > use ATI Radeon chipsets these days...)
> 
> If someone submits it as a patch, we will include it.
> 
> Russ

I don't seem to find the email, but AFAIK there were some license
issues with the drivers.
(Though I'd be happy to have them in the distribution, since my laptop
has a radeon mobility 7500 as well. It's working flawlessly in sxga+.)

jmk | 1 Mar 16:14 2005

Re: some recent updates

On Tue Mar  1 09:34:17 EST 2005, fgergo <at> gmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:03:30 -0500, Russ Cox <russcox <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Although it's "brain dead", I use a Thinkpad R40 as a
> > > standalone (and native) Plan 9 system with fossil/venti.
> > > (Thanks for the radeon driver to Philippe Anel and
> > > Latchesar Ionkov at this place! BTW: Can't the driver
> > > be included in the distribution? Many current laptops
> > > use ATI Radeon chipsets these days...)
> > 
> > If someone submits it as a patch, we will include it.
> > 
> > Russ
> 
> I don't seem to find the email, but AFAIK there were some license
> issues with the drivers.
> (Though I'd be happy to have them in the distribution, since my laptop
> has a radeon mobility 7500 as well. It's working flawlessly in sxga+.)

I don't think the licence issues are any different than those
for the NVidia driver.

However, someone did submit it as a patch last year. It didn't
work on the Radeon I have (either a 9200 or 9600) with DVI output
and I said then I'd include it when that worked.

--jim

Roland Dowdeswell | 1 Mar 17:29 2005

Re: writing code

Around Fri Feb 18 14:34:48 EST 2005, Tim Newsham wrote:
> To prevent this you either need to prevent someone from booting
> (ie. bios password and hope they dont go through the trouble
> of yanking the drive or resetting the bios) or you need to
> protect the disk (after all thats probably what they want to
> get at after they log in, not network access or the gui).
> Something like:
> 
>	http://phk.freebsd.dk/pubs/bsdcon-03.gbde.paper.pdf
> 
> would address this nicely.  For those who don't want to chase
> down the paper, it's an encrypted disk format used by the
> FreeBSD group.

You might also consider CGD [which I wrote].  GBDE has a number of
serious drawbacks, namely:

	1.  it can lose sectors if the machine crashes in the ``middle''
	    of a write to a single sector,
	2.  it is quite slow,
	3.  it makes no attempt to frustrate dictionary attacks, and
	4.  the crypto is a little dubious [and brittle].

Thanks,

--
    Roland Dowdeswell                      http://www.Imrryr.ORG/~elric/

west9 | 1 Mar 18:29 2005
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I'm using 4ed on a 400MHz P2 with 128MB, IDE 6GHz, 2x18Ghz and 2 scsi plextor cd drives.
-Tom

Jason Gurtz | 1 Mar 19:15 2005

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On 2/26/2005 08:37, Brantley Coile wrote:
> Just for the record, how many people are still running native systems?

One standalone T21 Thinkpad.

~Jason

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Taj Khattra | 1 Mar 22:38 2005
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standalone pc w/kfs on a 700MHz/IDE P3, but haven't booted into it for ages...


Gmane