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Andrey S. Kukhar | 1 Sep 2002 05:44
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influence of the Oberon concepts of user interface on Plan 9

hello,
I read one article of our ukrainian technical autor about Oberon OS and it 
tells that ``Oberon concepts of user interface have renderred essential 
influence on developers new perspective OS, in the first place, Plan 9'', if 
this true, how?

-ask
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david presotto | 1 Sep 2002 15:37

Re: wavelan cards question: orinoco is/is not avaya?

In my 9 month stint with Avaya, we were selling Orinoco cards under
the Avaya trademark.  However, as I was leaving (in March) the talk
was to drop Orinoco in favor of something else for our rebrand.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <nigel <at> 9fs.org>
To: <9fans <at> cse.psu.edu>
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [9fans] wavelan cards question: orinoco is/is not avaya?

> > I don't think Avaya cards have anything to do
> > with Orinoco.  The WaveLAN/Orinoco cards went
> > to Agere, and have recently been bought by Proxim.
> 
> Nevertheless,
> 
> 1. A quick search of the 'net suggests that the Avaya card
>     has the Hermes chipset (www.hoelzner.de/security/wlan.php),
>     same as Orinoco
> 
> 2. The FreeBSD driver does not have any special recognition in
>     it for Avaya, yet the releases notes specially mention support.
> 
> 3. Avaya sell exactly the same range of products as Orinoco, right
>     down to the sexy range extender antenna, and 'silver' and
>     'gold' cards
> 
> I think it will identify itself as Lucent/Wavelan. You can check this
> of course.
> 
>
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Adrian Tritschler | 2 Sep 2002 11:13
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Re: ctrl+c in rc? stopping process execution?

nigel <at> 9fs.org wrote:
> There is only OTIK. It's Del, not Ctrl-C.
> 
> So, hit the Del key (just to the right of Enter on my keybaord).

I find it quite inconvenient having to reach all the way across to the DEL key
on Nigel's keyboard, so I use my own.

> Nigel

	Adrian

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Subject:
> [9fans] ctrl+c in rc? stopping process execution?
> From:
> gimpie <ctech <at> unixtechs.net>
> Date:
> Fri, 30 Aug 2002 09:57:03 GMT
> To:
> 9fans <at> cse.psu.edu
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> how do i stop an execution of a command in progress?

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Adrian Tritschler    mailto:Adrian.Tritschler <at> its.monash.edu.au
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FODEMESI Gergely | 2 Sep 2002 11:13
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ar man page

I think somebody inadvertently left a "try this out"
in the first description line of the man page to ar.
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Douglas A. Gwyn | 2 Sep 2002 11:12
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Re: ctrl+c in rc? stopping process execution?

gimpie wrote:
> how do i stop an execution of a command in progress?

You ought to be able to send a stop message to the process' control "file".
However, I haven't looked into this and don't know whether it is implemented.
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FODEMESI Gergely | 2 Sep 2002 11:13
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invalid declaration of ioproc() in thread.h?

in /sys/include/thread.h:
Ioproc* ioproc(void)

though in /sys/src/libdraw/[keyboard|mouse].c
static void ioproc(void *arg)
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Nick Roberts | 2 Sep 2002 11:13
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Re: plan 9

On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 09:57:14 GMT, Isaac Stern <drmoses <at> techie.com> strongly
typed:

>I have heard lots of good things about plan9 in a past. How it is
>innovative OS and it takes file abstractions step futher then UNIX,
>but have never really made any serious research on topic.
>Could someone please sum up for me what is new in plan 9 besides it
>being "multiserver/distribured" OS.

I think one of the tenets of the design is to make everything a file
(perhaps with the idea of uniformly applying file security controls to
everything). Thus all devices are seen as files, various OS abstractions,
such as pipes and message queues, are seen as files, and so on.

I personally think this is a daft idea. The object-oriented OS concept is
far more flexible and powerful. 

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Nick Roberts
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Lucio De Re | 2 Sep 2002 12:11
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Re: Re: plan 9

On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 09:13:26AM +0000, Nick Roberts wrote:
> 
> I personally think this is a daft idea. The object-oriented OS concept is
> far more flexible and powerful. 
> 
A dangerous comment to make.  Now I'll sit here holding my breath
until you're done implementing such a wonderment.

Please don't forget to let us all know when you're finished.

++L
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Russ Cox | 2 Sep 2002 14:28
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Re: Re: plan 9

Plan 9 _is_ object-oriented (in the original Smalltalk
sense, not the perverted C++ sense).  Its objects are files.
If all you're going to do is troll, go away.

Russ
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Russ Cox | 2 Sep 2002 14:31
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Re: invalid declaration of ioproc() in thread.h?

Fixed, sorry.  The ioproc(2) part of the
thread library is new.  There may be other
name conflicts.

Russ
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