PCBSD 8.0 Alpha 20090929 - Install Failure "no space left"

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Re: Alpha 8.0-20090929 Available

Some quick observations before I hit the sack.

Live CD mode boots up nicely

nVidia drivers work great. - Thanks Kris

The software manager seems to be a bit problematic. Thunderbird would 
start to DL and then fail. Firefox didn't completely DL the first time. 
The second time I got it and it said it was installing it but it didn't. 
It disappeared from the list of installed pbi programs. Opera DL'd and 
installed but did not put its icon in the menu. It did however run OK. 
K3b DL'd and installed but would not run.

None of the extra software was installed initially so I presume that 
part is not implemented yet. I did manage to get the ports installed 
after the installation and I installed Thunderbird. That is running just 
fine as this is being written with it.

The Ports Console also has some problems. You can cd to some of the 
directories but not to others. For instance cd /usr/ports fails with no 
such file or directory message while cd /usr/sbin works just fine. The 
terminal lets me cd to the directories that fail in the Ports Console. 
Anyway, it is late so I will work on this again tomorrow.

Kris Moore wrote:
> Everybody,
>
> The next Alpha of PC-BSD 8.0 is now ready for you to download!
>
> Notable changes in this release:
>
> * FreeBSD 8.0-RC1
>
> * Improvements to base system
>
>    - Using /usr/local LOCALBASE, allows users to easily modify their base desktop
>      in the usual FreeBSD-ish way
>
>    - Port-Console tool, provides users a way to build / run ports in a jailed environment,
>      without fear of destroying their working desktop setup
>
> * Many bugfixes to the install / live image, fixed lots of hal/dbus issues with xorg,
> and fixed many bugs running in LIVE mode from DVD.
>
> * NVIDIA drivers for 32bit now included
>    (Nvidia is working on the 64bit drivers, and we'll include those when they are released)
>
> * Misc other bugfixes, etc
>
> Grab it here: (both 32/64bit)
> ftp://ftp.pcbsd.org/pub/alpha-iso/
>
>
> As noted previously, this is an ALPHA, expect BUGS, and lots of them! We are still working on
> our new installer, and hope to have that impelemented in one of the next alphas. Also, PBIs are
> not yet being built for 8.0, but we are getting ready to do so, now that the release of FreeBSD 8.0
> is getting closer :)
>
>
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Re: PCBSD 8.0 Alpha 20090929 - Install Failure "no space left"

Ian Robinson wrote:
>
>     >BTW, Heads up, new Alpha is incoming, with nvidia drivers, and
>     Live mode working pretty well now :)
>     >
>     >--
>     >Kris Moore
>     >PC-BSD Software
>
>
> Testing PCBSD 8.0 Alpha 20090929 x86 DVD
> Pentium III, 1.0GHz, 512 MB, nVidia Ti4200
>
> Soon after the start of installation, I received this error message:
>
> /mnt/./boot/kernel/kernelcpio: write failed: no space left on device.
>
>
> Snips of output from df:
>
> Filesystem               1k-blocks     Used     Avail     Capacity     
> Mounted on
>
> /dev/ufs/ROOTFS     19150           19136   -1518    109%            /
>
> /dev/md6                  14638                 44   1324         
> 0%           /tmp
>
>
>
> Ian Robinson
> Salem, Ohio
>
>
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Try formatting the drive with FreeBSD RC installer.

Re: PCBSD 8.0 Alpha 20090929 - Install Failure "no space left"

Testing PCBSD 8.0 Alpha 20090929 x86 DVD in <Live Mode>
Pentium III, 1.0GHz, 512 MB, nVidia Ti4200

1.  Loads slow - no surprise.

2.  Runs slow.

3. Portsconsole -- When run from the desktop or menu icon, the program
starts, a terminal-like screen is loaded which names itself "root:sh".
 However the window disappears.

In contrast,  if I start a terminal and cd/mntuzip/usr/PCBSD/portjail
and run ./portjail.sh, the terminal name changes to "portjail:csh"
There is no ports tree to test.

4.  Internet works well in the live mode.

5.  Screen looks good.

6. Cannot access the hard disk from Dolphin's mount function (ie., "Places").
Although a hard disk showed in Dolphin's "Places" menu, I could not
mount it.  The error message says:
"Cannot access attached hd - freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure:
cannot obtain lock on /media/.hal-mtab.

This is the same hard disk where an install failed soon after starting
the installation routine, and as a result no files were copied.
However, I can mount the disk manually using the mount command in a
terminal.  Thus the disk is formatted, partitioned, and labeled.  It
contained only one directory, a hidden one named .snap, and it
contained no files.

After manually mounting the hard disk, it showed up in the "Recently
Plugged in Devices" program and in Dolphin's Places.  Also, Dolphin
will then let me see the directories and files of the hard disk.

Ian Robinson

Re: PCBSD 8.0 Alpha 20090929 - Install Failure "no space left"

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, Ian Robinson wrote:

> Testing PCBSD 8.0 Alpha 20090929 x86 DVD in <Live Mode>
> Pentium III, 1.0GHz, 512 MB, nVidia Ti4200
>
> 1.  Loads slow - no surprise.
>
> 2.  Runs slow.

Yep, 512MB of ram will do that, it has to run everything from disk. If you have 3-4GB or so,
it'll take longer to bootup, but once its done, It'll run from RAM instead, which is
WAY faster :)

>
> 3. Portsconsole -- When run from the desktop or menu icon, the program
> starts, a terminal-like screen is loaded which names itself "root:sh".
> However the window disappears.
>
> In contrast,  if I start a terminal and cd/mntuzip/usr/PCBSD/portjail
> and run ./portjail.sh, the terminal name changes to "portjail:csh"
> There is no ports tree to test.

The ports jail is actually turned off by default in LIVE mode, I'll have to make sure to remove that
Icon from the desktop / menu :) I'm not sure it makes sense to have it on, since when running in
memory you won't have enough space to download / build ports and such.

>
> 6. Cannot access the hard disk from Dolphin's mount function (ie., "Places").
> Although a hard disk showed in Dolphin's "Places" menu, I could not
> mount it.  The error message says:
> "Cannot access attached hd - freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure:
> cannot obtain lock on /media/.hal-mtab.
>
> This is the same hard disk where an install failed soon after starting
> the installation routine, and as a result no files were copied.
> However, I can mount the disk manually using the mount command in a
> terminal.  Thus the disk is formatted, partitioned, and labeled.  It
> contained only one directory, a hidden one named .snap, and it
> contained no files.
>
> After manually mounting the hard disk, it showed up in the "Recently
> Plugged in Devices" program and in Dolphin's Places.  Also, Dolphin
> will then let me see the directories and files of the hard disk.
>
> Ian Robinson

I'll take a look into this, probably needs /media created on the mfsroot image

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Kris Moore
PC-BSD Software

Re: PCBSD 8.0 Alpha 20090929 - Install Failure "no space left"

On Thu, 1 Oct 2009, Ian Robinson wrote:

>
>       >BTW, Heads up, new Alpha is incoming, with nvidia drivers, and Live mode working pretty well now :)
>       >
>       >--
>       >Kris Moore
>       >PC-BSD Software
> 
> 
> Testing PCBSD 8.0 Alpha 20090929 x86 DVD
> Pentium III, 1.0GHz, 512 MB, nVidia Ti4200
> 
> Soon after the start of installation, I received this error message:
> 
> /mnt/./boot/kernel/kernelcpio: write failed: no space left on device.
> 
> 
> Snips of output from df:
> 
> Filesystem               1k-blocks     Used     Avail    
Capacity     Mounted on
> 
> /dev/ufs/ROOTFS     19150           19136   -1518   
109%            /
> 
> /dev/md6                  14638                 44  
1324         0%           /tmp
> 
> 
> 
> Ian Robinson
> Salem, Ohio
> 
> 
> 
>

Humm, according to this, it sounds like the disk failed to mount to /mnt, and this filled up your '/' partition.

Did you choose to install to the entire disk, or to a partition? Also, try booting again, and open up "xterm"
can you
mount your disk / partition to /mnt manually?

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Re: Alpha 8.0-20090929 Available

> Some quick observations before I hit the sack.
>
> Live CD mode boots up nicely
>
> nVidia drivers work great. - Thanks Kris
>
> The software manager seems to be a bit problematic. Thunderbird would
> start to DL and then fail. Firefox didn't completely DL the first time.
> The second time I got it and it said it was installing it but it didn't.
> It disappeared from the list of installed pbi programs. Opera DL'd and
> installed but did not put its icon in the menu. It did however run OK.
> K3b DL'd and installed but would not run.

Try changing the Mirror in the configuration, maybe its losing connection
to the mirror its using now? Also, those PBIs are still versions from 7.x,
so they will probably not all run properly. We'll be starting to build
8.0 ones here very soon :)

> The Ports Console also has some problems. You can cd to some of the
> directories but not to others. For instance cd /usr/ports fails with no
> such file or directory message while cd /usr/sbin works just fine. The
> terminal lets me cd to the directories that fail in the Ports Console.
> Anyway, it is late so I will work on this again tomorrow.
>

That is correct, the ports-console is running inside a jail. The only shared directories
between it and your system is /home and /tmp, everything else is seperate, so you don't 
have to worry about breaking your system. To get started in it, just run "portsnap fetch extract update"
within the port-console, and begin making ports.

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Kris Moore
PC-BSD Software

On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Bill Leeper wrote:

Re: Alpha 8.0-20090929 Available

On Oct 1, 2009, at 6:37 AM, Kris Moore wrote:

>
>
>
>> Some quick observations before I hit the sack.
>>
>> Live CD mode boots up nicely
>>
>> nVidia drivers work great. - Thanks Kris
>>
>> The software manager seems to be a bit problematic. Thunderbird would
>> start to DL and then fail. Firefox didn't completely DL the first  
>> time.
>> The second time I got it and it said it was installing it but it  
>> didn't.
>> It disappeared from the list of installed pbi programs. Opera DL'd  
>> and
>> installed but did not put its icon in the menu. It did however run  
>> OK.
>> K3b DL'd and installed but would not run.
>
> Try changing the Mirror in the configuration, maybe its losing  
> connection
> to the mirror its using now? Also, those PBIs are still versions  
> from 7.x,
> so they will probably not all run properly. We'll be starting to build
> 8.0 ones here very soon :)

I kind of figured that, but had the mirror set to auto. Will play with  
that.

>
>> The Ports Console also has some problems. You can cd to some of the
>> directories but not to others. For instance cd /usr/ports fails  
>> with no
>> such file or directory message while cd /usr/sbin works just fine.  
>> The
>> terminal lets me cd to the directories that fail in the Ports  
>> Console.
>> Anyway, it is late so I will work on this again tomorrow.
>>
>
> That is correct, the ports-console is running inside a jail. The  
> only shared directories
> between it and your system is /home and /tmp, everything else is  
> seperate, so you don't
> have to worry about breaking your system. To get started in it, just  
> run "portsnap fetch extract update"
> within the port-console, and begin making ports.

Having never played with a jail system before I had not realized that.  
I now have it working and thanks...

>
>
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> PC-BSD Software
>
> On Wed, 30 Sep 2009, Bill Leeper wrote:
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Re: PCBSD 8.0 Alpha 20090929 x86 ports

Re: System Kernel and Ports.

I suppose these two items are related because a config file somewhere
identifies that the kernel as FreeBSD 7:

1.  Although the System Manager correctly reports that the operating
system is PCBSD 8.0 Alpha, deeper into System Manager -> System
Settings -> Tasks, it reports that the kernel is "FBSD7.0-PCBSD7.0
(Standard PCBSD Kernel for 7.0"

2.  If you run "portsnap fetch extract update" within the port-console
it retrieves the ports tree, but it appears to be FreeBSD 7's port
tree.  It is also very bi-polar since you can find that Opera is at
release 10 (the newest) while Firefox is only at version 2.x (not so
new).

Ian Robinson
Salem, Ohio