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Yvan Martin | 4 Nov 2008 03:35
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Re: Better nVidia Driver for PCBSD 7 AMD64?

I would welcome suggestions about my shutdown/restart dilemma: whenever 
I go to the menu and choose "Leave" and whether I choose to shutdown or 
restart I seem to get the same behaviour: the current session ends, but 
Xserver seems to hang and I am left with a white pointer on a black 
background. on rare occasions after a pause, the shutdown sequence will 
continue, but most of the times I have to use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to 
terminate the X-windows session and choose shutdown or restart from the 
new login screen.

This happens both on my 32 bit install (Acer Aspire One Netbook) or my 
64bit AMD Desktop.

Also, is there a way to toggle the "Quick Tips" on and off during 
install? On my Netbook, the tips overlay some of the other buttons 
(because of the limited 600 pixel height of the screen and it's a 
frustrating guessing game at times trying to go forward from one screen 
to the next when installing. More than one I have found myself moving 
backwards rather than forward through screens and trying to figure out 
how many times I need to hit the "Tab" key before I get to the right 
hidden button.

Thanks.
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Brodey Dover | 4 Nov 2008 03:59
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Re: Better nVidia Driver for PCBSD 7 AMD64?

Yvan Martin wrote:
> I would welcome suggestions about my shutdown/restart dilemma: whenever 
> I go to the menu and choose "Leave" and whether I choose to shutdown or 
> restart I seem to get the same behaviour: the current session ends, but 
> Xserver seems to hang and I am left with a white pointer on a black 
> background. on rare occasions after a pause, the shutdown sequence will 
> continue, but most of the times I have to use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to 
> terminate the X-windows session and choose shutdown or restart from the 
> new login screen.
>
> This happens both on my 32 bit install (Acer Aspire One Netbook) or my 
> 64bit AMD Desktop.
>
> Also, is there a way to toggle the "Quick Tips" on and off during 
> install? On my Netbook, the tips overlay some of the other buttons 
> (because of the limited 600 pixel height of the screen and it's a 
> frustrating guessing game at times trying to go forward from one screen 
> to the next when installing. More than one I have found myself moving 
> backwards rather than forward through screens and trying to figure out 
> how many times I need to hit the "Tab" key before I get to the right 
> hidden button.
>
> Thanks.
> _______________________________________________
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>   
Doesn't the Aspire One use the 945GE chipset with integrated graphics?
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Yvan Martin | 4 Nov 2008 05:12
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Re: Better nVidia Driver for PCBSD 7 AMD64?

There OS has no problems detecting the Video adapter or selecting the 
proper driver. PCBSD 7 works very well on the device once it's 
installed. The only problem is during the install process where the 
"Quick Tips" at the bottom of the screen overlay the active buttons at 
the bottom of the screen so that they are hidden.

Since PCBSD 7 runs well on the Acer Aspire One, it is a shame that there 
is no easy way to turn off "Quick Tips" or to toggle them on or off 
during the install process. There is simply not enough space in the 600 
vertical pixels of the 1024x600 screen to display everything that would 
be otherwise visible on a normal size desktop or laptop display. One can 
blindly find his/her way around but it's less than ideal and may 
discourage someone trying PCBSD for the first time.

Brodey Dover wrote:
> Yvan Martin wrote:
>   
>> I would welcome suggestions about my shutdown/restart dilemma: whenever 
>> I go to the menu and choose "Leave" and whether I choose to shutdown or 
>> restart I seem to get the same behaviour: the current session ends, but 
>> Xserver seems to hang and I am left with a white pointer on a black 
>> background. on rare occasions after a pause, the shutdown sequence will 
>> continue, but most of the times I have to use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to 
>> terminate the X-windows session and choose shutdown or restart from the 
>> new login screen.
>>
>> This happens both on my 32 bit install (Acer Aspire One Netbook) or my 
>> 64bit AMD Desktop.
>>
>> Also, is there a way to toggle the "Quick Tips" on and off during
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Brodey Dover | 4 Nov 2008 05:54
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Re: Better nVidia Driver for PCBSD 7 AMD64?

Yvan Martin wrote:
> There OS has no problems detecting the Video adapter or selecting the 
> proper driver. PCBSD 7 works very well on the device once it's 
> installed. The only problem is during the install process where the 
> "Quick Tips" at the bottom of the screen overlay the active buttons at 
> the bottom of the screen so that they are hidden.
>
> Since PCBSD 7 runs well on the Acer Aspire One, it is a shame that there 
> is no easy way to turn off "Quick Tips" or to toggle them on or off 
> during the install process. There is simply not enough space in the 600 
> vertical pixels of the 1024x600 screen to display everything that would 
> be otherwise visible on a normal size desktop or laptop display. One can 
> blindly find his/her way around but it's less than ideal and may 
> discourage someone trying PCBSD for the first time.
>
> Brodey Dover wrote:
>   
>> Yvan Martin wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> I would welcome suggestions about my shutdown/restart dilemma: whenever 
>>> I go to the menu and choose "Leave" and whether I choose to shutdown or 
>>> restart I seem to get the same behaviour: the current session ends, but 
>>> Xserver seems to hang and I am left with a white pointer on a black 
>>> background. on rare occasions after a pause, the shutdown sequence will 
>>> continue, but most of the times I have to use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to 
>>> terminate the X-windows session and choose shutdown or restart from the 
>>> new login screen.
>>>
>>> This happens both on my 32 bit install (Acer Aspire One Netbook) or my
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Sam Fourman Jr. | 4 Nov 2008 06:00
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Re: Better nVidia Driver for PCBSD 7 AMD64?

> time-being. As for a nvidia driver, there are some things lacking in the
> amd64 kernel which prevents nvidia from releasing a driver right now.
> Take a look at these links for more info:
>
> http://wiki.freebsd.org/NvidiaFeatureRequests
>
> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41545&page=24

Last time I checked nvnews.net , I thought that there was a PC-BSD developer
working on AMD64 Kernel Features am I misinformed?

Sam Fourman Jr.
Fourman Networks
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Arthur Koziol | 4 Nov 2008 15:56

Re: Better nVidia Driver for PCBSD 7 AMD64?


>I would welcome suggestions about my shutdown/restart dilemma: whenever
>I go to the menu and choose "Leave" and whether I choose to shutdown or
>restart I seem to get the same behaviour: the current session ends, but
>Xserver seems to hang and I am left with a white pointer on a black
>background. on rare occasions after a pause, the shutdown sequence will
>continue, but most of the times I have to use Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to
>terminate the X-windows session and choose shutdown or restart from the
>new login screen.
>
>This happens both on my 32 bit install (Acer Aspire One Netbook) or my
>64bit AMD Desktop.
>
>Also, is there a way to toggle the "Quick Tips" on and off during
>install? On my Netbook, the tips overlay some of the other buttons
>(because of the limited 600 pixel height of the screen and it's a
>frustrating guessing game at times trying to go forward from one screen
>to the next when installing. More than one I have found myself moving
>backwards rather than forward through screens and trying to figure out
>how many times I need to hit the "Tab" key before I get to the right
>hidden button.

Is you BIOS up to date on these machines?

Arthur
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Ian Robinson | 4 Nov 2008 22:18
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Re: Testing Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:00 PM,  <testing-request@...> wrote:

> . . . . . . . On my Netbook, the tips overlay some of the other buttons
> (because of the limited 600 pixel height of the screen and it's a
> frustrating guessing game at times trying to go forward from one screen
> to the next when installing. More than one I have found myself moving
> backwards rather than forward through screens and trying to figure out
> how many times I need to hit the "Tab" key before I get to the right
> hidden button.

I do not know if this will solve your "tips overlay" problem, but
there is a way to move around to different sections of the screen when
those sections are hidden:

During install, if you cannot see the "Next" button or any other part
of an installation screen, you can if you hold down the <ALT> key and
click and hold the left mouse button to drag the screen to your target
location.

Ian Robinson
Salem, Ohio
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Bill Leeper | 4 Nov 2008 23:18
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Re: Testing Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2

Good tip. And I have to say the nVidia fixes I installed last night  
via System Update seem to have resolved a lot of my video issues. I  
have noticed a speed increase in the graphics rendering in a few areas.

On Nov 4, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Ian Robinson wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:00 PM,  <testing-request <at> lists.pcbsd.org>  
> wrote:
>
>> . . . . . . . On my Netbook, the tips overlay some of the other  
>> buttons
>> (because of the limited 600 pixel height of the screen and it's a
>> frustrating guessing game at times trying to go forward from one  
>> screen
>> to the next when installing. More than one I have found myself moving
>> backwards rather than forward through screens and trying to figure  
>> out
>> how many times I need to hit the "Tab" key before I get to the right
>> hidden button.
>
>
>
> I do not know if this will solve your "tips overlay" problem, but
> there is a way to move around to different sections of the screen when
> those sections are hidden:
>
> During install, if you cannot see the "Next" button or any other part
> of an installation screen, you can if you hold down the <ALT> key and
> click and hold the left mouse button to drag the screen to your target
> location.
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Yvan Martin | 5 Nov 2008 12:03
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Re: Testing Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2

Thank you for the suggestion Ian. I don't plan to re-install very soon 
on my own netbook, but I will give this a try the next time.

Ian Robinson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:00 PM,  <testing-request@...> wrote:
>
>   
>> . . . . . . . On my Netbook, the tips overlay some of the other buttons
>> (because of the limited 600 pixel height of the screen and it's a
>> frustrating guessing game at times trying to go forward from one screen
>> to the next when installing. More than one I have found myself moving
>> backwards rather than forward through screens and trying to figure out
>> how many times I need to hit the "Tab" key before I get to the right
>> hidden button.
>>     
>
>
>
> I do not know if this will solve your "tips overlay" problem, but
> there is a way to move around to different sections of the screen when
> those sections are hidden:
>
> During install, if you cannot see the "Next" button or any other part
> of an installation screen, you can if you hold down the <ALT> key and
> click and hold the left mouse button to drag the screen to your target
> location.
>
> Ian Robinson
> Salem, Ohio
> _______________________________________________
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