Brodey Dover | 1 Oct 02:51 2008

Re: Removable media

Hello,

Let's try mounting things manually for now. When you insert the device, 
if you can "safely remove it" then do so, if not, open the terminal. 
Once you are at the terminal (vfs.usermount=1 is generally set in all 
PC-BSDs), type umount -f /media/da0s1 (we're being forceful because it 
doesn't "really" matter right now.

let's make a directory on your desktop for you to sift through 
easily...: mkdir ~/Desktop/Xpod

let's mount the device to your nice new directory....: mount -t msdosfs 
/dev/da0s1 ~/Desktop/Xpod

ENJOY!!!

Rather, test and let us know!

Rgds,
Brodey

flat.rose wrote:
> *Update:
>
> Songs that were transferred before wasn't damaged, I was mistaken (sorry);
> The ones I've transferred throught Dolphin to my player are broken 
> (backed-up the whole data to my PC and listened with WMPlayer);
> Formatted device with FAT (not FAT32) flag, gonna see what's that 
> gonna give to me.
>
(Continue reading)

flat.rose | 1 Oct 08:11 2008
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Re: Removable media

Umm, thanks, I'm gonna check that this evening.
But still, is that the way to avoid screwing-up of filesystem on my removable media?

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Brodey Dover <pcfxer-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Hello,

Let's try mounting things manually for now. When you insert the device,
if you can "safely remove it" then do so, if not, open the terminal.
Once you are at the terminal (vfs.usermount=1 is generally set in all
PC-BSDs), type umount -f /media/da0s1 (we're being forceful because it
doesn't "really" matter right now.

let's make a directory on your desktop for you to sift through
easily...: mkdir ~/Desktop/Xpod

let's mount the device to your nice new directory....: mount -t msdosfs
/dev/da0s1 ~/Desktop/Xpod

ENJOY!!!

Rather, test and let us know!

Rgds,
Brodey

flat.rose wrote:
> *Update:
>
> Songs that were transferred before wasn't damaged, I was mistaken (sorry);
> The ones I've transferred throught Dolphin to my player are broken
> (backed-up the whole data to my PC and listened with WMPlayer);
> Formatted device with FAT (not FAT32) flag, gonna see what's that
> gonna give to me.
>
> ...*some time later*...
>
> The mp3-player recognizes FAT filesystem but when I mount it to my
> laptop and open with Dolphin I see this picture:
>
> The only folder out there that displayed as a folder is one named
> `photos` (It was created by the device after formatting, at the first
> boot). The `music` folder (was created by myself from windows machine
> to have some place for mp3s), so the music folder is displayed as an
> empty document without extension and it weights 0 bytes. The device
> path is /media/da0s1 now, which's actually kinda strange becuse the
> label on my jukbox is xPod, so the path were /media/XPOD before. Guys,
> please fix that thing, we're still living in the world of Windows so
> it's a must-have thing - to be compatable with formats like FAT and
> NTFS, or even linux ext's.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:53 PM, John Stokes <airy-ooduxAEi7gXtt0EhB6fy4g@public.gmane.org
> <mailto:airy-ooduxAEi7gXtt0EhB6fy4g@public.gmane.org>> wrote:
>
>     Unfortunately that is not the only thing broken at the moment -
>     earlier versions of PC-BSD 7 worked with my USB external Seagate
>     harddrive (NTFS partition)
>     - now it won't even see it (it mistaken thinks it's my SATA Main
>     drive (V7 is on a IDE drive hanging off the side of the machine)
>     :-( .I'm hoping a lot of the issues I'm seeing will fade away with
>     the next release (I like to think I'm an optimist :-\ ).
>
>
>     flat.rose wrote:
>>     It happened again - after uploading music on my 1GB Philips
>>     mp3-player all songs are being played very laggy so it's
>>     impossible to listen anything except radio (even songs that were
>>     transferred from w32 PC are broken after it). Seems to me that
>>     something breaks filesystem on the flash memory. It happened to
>>     me before on PC-bsd and never on linux (both were KDE4). The
>>     solution is to format the whole disk with fat-32 filesystem on my
>>     WinXP PC and upload songs to it from the same machine. It don't
>>     just doesn't work, it even pisses me off and takes my time to
>>     transfer songs to PC, format the player and give it back. Please,
>>     find out what's the problem with that I can't always use PC for
>>     that, I need my laptop to be able 'not to crack' my device.
>>     Thank you.
>>
>>     System: PC-BSD 7.0 Fibonacci edition,
>>     FIle-manager: Dolphin;
>>     Song format: mp3, transferring inside folders and outside too;
>>     Protocol: USB 2.0;
>>     Problem: all songs are being played like I'm trying to run WoW on
>>     my player while listening. (I don't).
>>
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>>
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flat.rose | 1 Oct 10:06 2008
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Re: Removable media

*Update

Yesterday I've mounted (only mounted - nothing more) my player with FAT fs to my laptop with PC-BSD and today, about 15 mins ago I've got nullified player. So it's not only working wrong, it even cracks my flash-memory each time I mount it. I'm still gonna try that stuff u told me, Brodey, but it's gonna be done at late night when I don't need to rush anywhere. =\ And I'm an optimist too yeah.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:11 AM, flat. rose <flat.rose-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Umm, thanks, I'm gonna check that this evening.
But still, is that the way to avoid screwing-up of filesystem on my removable media?


On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 4:51 AM, Brodey Dover <pcfxer-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Hello,

Let's try mounting things manually for now. When you insert the device,
if you can "safely remove it" then do so, if not, open the terminal.
Once you are at the terminal (vfs.usermount=1 is generally set in all
PC-BSDs), type umount -f /media/da0s1 (we're being forceful because it
doesn't "really" matter right now.

let's make a directory on your desktop for you to sift through
easily...: mkdir ~/Desktop/Xpod

let's mount the device to your nice new directory....: mount -t msdosfs
/dev/da0s1 ~/Desktop/Xpod

ENJOY!!!

Rather, test and let us know!

Rgds,
Brodey

flat.rose wrote:
> *Update:
>
> Songs that were transferred before wasn't damaged, I was mistaken (sorry);
> The ones I've transferred throught Dolphin to my player are broken
> (backed-up the whole data to my PC and listened with WMPlayer);
> Formatted device with FAT (not FAT32) flag, gonna see what's that
> gonna give to me.
>
> ...*some time later*...
>
> The mp3-player recognizes FAT filesystem but when I mount it to my
> laptop and open with Dolphin I see this picture:
>
> The only folder out there that displayed as a folder is one named
> `photos` (It was created by the device after formatting, at the first
> boot). The `music` folder (was created by myself from windows machine
> to have some place for mp3s), so the music folder is displayed as an
> empty document without extension and it weights 0 bytes. The device
> path is /media/da0s1 now, which's actually kinda strange becuse the
> label on my jukbox is xPod, so the path were /media/XPOD before. Guys,
> please fix that thing, we're still living in the world of Windows so
> it's a must-have thing - to be compatable with formats like FAT and
> NTFS, or even linux ext's.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 3:53 PM, John Stokes <airy-ooduxAEi7gXtt0EhB6fy4g@public.gmane.org
> <mailto:airy-ooduxAEi7gXtt0EhB6fy4g@public.gmane.org>> wrote:
>
>     Unfortunately that is not the only thing broken at the moment -
>     earlier versions of PC-BSD 7 worked with my USB external Seagate
>     harddrive (NTFS partition)
>     - now it won't even see it (it mistaken thinks it's my SATA Main
>     drive (V7 is on a IDE drive hanging off the side of the machine)
>     :-( .I'm hoping a lot of the issues I'm seeing will fade away with
>     the next release (I like to think I'm an optimist :-\ ).
>
>
>     flat.rose wrote:
>>     It happened again - after uploading music on my 1GB Philips
>>     mp3-player all songs are being played very laggy so it's
>>     impossible to listen anything except radio (even songs that were
>>     transferred from w32 PC are broken after it). Seems to me that
>>     something breaks filesystem on the flash memory. It happened to
>>     me before on PC-bsd and never on linux (both were KDE4). The
>>     solution is to format the whole disk with fat-32 filesystem on my
>>     WinXP PC and upload songs to it from the same machine. It don't
>>     just doesn't work, it even pisses me off and takes my time to
>>     transfer songs to PC, format the player and give it back. Please,
>>     find out what's the problem with that I can't always use PC for
>>     that, I need my laptop to be able 'not to crack' my device.
>>     Thank you.
>>
>>     System: PC-BSD 7.0 Fibonacci edition,
>>     FIle-manager: Dolphin;
>>     Song format: mp3, transferring inside folders and outside too;
>>     Protocol: USB 2.0;
>>     Problem: all songs are being played like I'm trying to run WoW on
>>     my player while listening. (I don't).
>>
>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>     _______________________________________________
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Kris Moore | 1 Oct 15:07 2008

Re: Removable media

flat.rose wrote:
> *Update
> 
> Yesterday I've mounted (only mounted - nothing more) my player with FAT fs
> to my laptop with PC-BSD and today, about 15 mins ago I've got nullified
> player. So it's not only working wrong, it even cracks my flash-memory each
> time I mount it. I'm still gonna try that stuff u told me, Brodey, but it's
> gonna be done at late night when I don't need to rush anywhere. =\ And I'm
> an optimist too yeah.
> 

I've been using some FAT formatted USB sticks here, and no problem so 
far. You are un-mounting them before unplugging it right? If you can 
test it via the command-line as suggested, and confirm that it still 
corrupts the FAT tables, we'll need to report this bug with details to 
the FreeBSD team right away:

http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html

Its possible that mount_msdosfs is buggy in this case?

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Arthur Koziol | 1 Oct 15:25 2008

Re: Removable media


> > Yesterday I've mounted (only mounted - nothing more) my player with FAT fs
> > to my laptop with PC-BSD and today, about 15 mins ago I've got nullified
> > player. So it's not only working wrong, it even cracks my flash-memory each
> > time I mount it. I'm still gonna try that stuff u told me, Brodey, but it's
> > gonna be done at late night when I don't need to rush anywhere. =\ And I'm
> > an optimist too yeah.
> >
>
>
>I've been using some FAT formatted USB sticks here, and no problem so
>far. You are un-mounting them before unplugging it right? If you can
>test it via the command-line as suggested, and confirm that it still
>corrupts the FAT tables, we'll need to report this bug with details to
>the FreeBSD team right away:
>
>http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html
>
>Its possible that mount_msdosfs is buggy in this case?

Kris,

I've been sort of loosely watching this thread. Is there any easy 
test this to see if this is isolated perhaps to certain chipsets on 
certain mothers boards (AMD chipset v. Intel v. NForce v. VIA, etc.) 
that the rest of us can test and confirm? Typically, USB flash drives 
UNDER 2GB will come out of the factory formatted to 2GB. Anything 
OVER 2GB has ot be FAT32 or some other size due to FATs 2GB ceiling. 
I've tried my 4GB and 8GB Sandisk drives with no loss or data error 
but they are formatted FAT32. I have plenty of time to run some tests 
with USB drivers ranging from 128 FAT or FAT32 to 8GB FAT32 to play with.

Arthur 
pcfxer | 1 Oct 17:47 2008

Re: Removable media


I forget which sizes are affected, but it is important to mount that mount_msdosfs must have the "-o large" switch enabled. Most automounters will disregard a device plugged in that is too large, but this may be an issue with the Kauto mount.

Try -o large if mount -t... returns nothing.

Rgds,
Brodey

--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Arthur Koziol <A-Koziol-QtYOAdWFdlQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
From: Arthur Koziol <A-Koziol-QtYOAdWFdlQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PC-BSD Testing] Removable media
To: "PC-BSD Testing list" <testing-Fhbtn2kkCAMmbxgs1yVkuA@public.gmane.org>
Received: Wednesday, October 1, 2 008, 1:25 PM

> > Yesterday I've mounted (only mounted - nothing more) my player
with FAT fs
> > to my laptop with PC-BSD and today, about 15 mins ago I've got
nullified
> > player. So it's not only working wrong, it even cracks my
flash-memory each
> > time I mount it. I'm still gonna try that stuff u told me,
Brodey, but it's
> > gonna be done at late night when I don't need to rush anywhere.
=\ And I'm
> > an optimist too yeah.
> >
>
>
>I've been using some FAT formatted USB sticks here, and no problem so
>far. You are un-mounting them before unplugging it right? If you can
>test it via the command-line as suggested, and confirm that it still
>corrupts the FAT tables, we'll need to report this bug with details to
>the FreeBSD team right away:
>
>http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html
>
>Its possible that mount_msdosfs is buggy in this case?

Kris,

I've been sort of loosely watching this thread. Is there any easy
test this to see if this is isolated perhaps to certain chipsets on
certain mothers boards (AMD chipset v. Intel v. NForce v. VIA, etc.)
that the rest of us can test and confirm? Typically, USB flash drives
UNDER 2GB will come out of the factory formatted to 2GB. Anything
OVER 2GB has ot be FAT32 or some other size due to FATs 2GB ceiling.
I've tried my 4GB and 8GB Sandisk drives with no loss or data error
but they are formatted FAT32. I have plenty of time to run some tests
with USB drivers ranging from 128 FAT or FAT32 to 8GB FAT32 to play with.

Arthur

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flat.rose | 1 Oct 22:56 2008
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Re: Removable media

*upd*
After mounting my media with fat32 filesystem I've got it at /media/XPOD; with FAT it was /media/da0s1.

*trying `umount -f /media/XPOD`*
The device folder in Dolphin is shown as empty now, no objects, no info. In Plasma quick-device-access there's still my XPOD displayed as a mounted device (can't see the unmount button tho). The player is still being chargin' from the usb and it still shows that the player is connected to my laptop.

*created folder on the desktop called xPod, trying `mount -t msdosfs /dev/da0s1 ~/Desktop/xPod` now*
Eureka! It's alive! I'm in desktop:/xPod atm, gonna transfer one song to it. I'll pick Shirley Mansons' Samson and Delilah :)
It's a 6.6mb mp3 file; transferring files using dolphin. It took about 8 seconds to transfer it to desktop:/xPod/MUSIC dir.

*and now*
I'm clicking on dolphin's... oh no wait, there's no `safe remove` button anymore - it's on desktop so there're a list for places instead of it and folder's icon. Changing directory to /media/XPOD/ (the link is in the bottom of my 'places' list in dolphin).

*2 seconds later*
The location didn't change, it has shown me an error:
An error ocurred while accessing 'XPOD', the system responded:
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.UnknownFailure: mount_msdosfs: /dev/msdosfs/XPOD: : No such file or directory
(And actually there were a file with exact that name exact in that dir.

*trying to unmount the device manually as Brodey taught me*
[root <at> pcbsd ~]# umount -f /dev/da0s1

After doing this, I've got my device unlinked from a desktop folder but now I can access to it through dolphin at /media/XPOD-1
Now I'm unmounting it throught dolphin's `Unmount 'XPOD'` thingy.
Player is still receiving power from my laptop and don't want to accept my actions like a disconnect.

*pluggin-off my usb wire from laptop, then from device*
Device is being rebooted now, I'm gonna check the song.
...
Same old thing - the track is lagging in the worst way, about til' the first minute. Then there were a little 'clean part' and then it has stopped playing so it's at 00:00 now.
Other songs are playing in the good way, they were transferred from windows machine after I've formatted it with fat32 filesystem.

*Uh oh, Huh...*

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:47 PM, <pcfxer-bJEeYj9oJeDQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

I forget which sizes are affected, but it is important to mount that mount_msdosfs must have the "-o large" switch enabled. Most automounters will disregard a device plugged in that is too large, but this may be an issue with the Kauto mount.

Try -o large if mount -t... returns nothing.

Rgds,
Brodey

--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Arthur Koziol <A-Koziol-QtYOAdWFdlQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
From: Arthur Koziol <A-Koziol-QtYOAdWFdlQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PC-BSD Testing] Removable media
To: "PC-BSD Testing list" <testing-Fhbtn2kkCAMmbxgs1yVkuA@public.gmane.org>
Received: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 1:25 PM


> > Yesterday I've mounted (only mounted - nothing more) my player
with FAT fs
> > to my laptop with PC-BSD and today, about 15 mins ago I've got
nullified
> > player. So it's not only working wrong, it even cracks my
flash-memory each
> > time I mount it. I'm still gonna try that stuff u told me,
Brodey, but it's
> > gonna be done at late night when I don't need to rush anywhere.
=\ And I'm
> > an optimist too yeah.
> >
>
>
>I've been using some FAT formatted USB sticks here, and no problem so
>far. You are un-mounting them before unplugging it right? If you can
>test it via the command-line as suggested, and confirm that it still
>corrupts the FAT tables, we'll need to report this bug with details to
>the FreeBSD team right away:
>
>http://www.freebsd.org/send-pr.html
>
>Its possible that mount_msdosfs is buggy in this case?

Kris,

I've been sort of loosely watching this thread. Is there any easy
test this to see if this is isolated perhaps to certain chipsets on
certain mothers boards (AMD chipset v. Intel v. NForce v. VIA, etc.)
that the rest of us can test and confirm? Typically, USB flash drives
UNDER 2GB will come out of the factory formatted to 2GB. Anything
OVER 2GB has ot be FAT32 or some other size due to FATs 2GB ceiling.
I've tried my 4GB and 8GB Sandisk drives with no loss or data error
but they are formatted FAT32. I have plenty of time to run some tests
with USB drivers ranging from 128 FAT or FAT32 to 8GB FAT32 to play with.

Arthur

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DragonFlier | 2 Oct 05:37 2008
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Firefox 3.02 PBI

Installed fine but gave numerous errors about additional addons that I had never installed. All were language packs. Also, immediately after the update my shortcut to the Favorite would not start FF but had to deg into the menu to bring it up under Multimedia.

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flat.rose | 2 Oct 11:41 2008
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Re: Firefox 3.02 PBI

Hey there. Not using PBI's of firefox anymore - it's better to install from port personally for me. In that case I understand better where what lays and easily to find out how to fix issues with google.
So, firefox. http://www.freshports.org/www/firefox3/. There's in the top comment u can find the paths to plugins:
~/.mozilla/plugins or /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins

For me worked only the second one, I've installed swfdec with path /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins and it finally worked for me.
If you're having some language addons then that isn't a trouble since u can leave only english and e.g. your country language for
browsing websites. It's in the Tools -> Addons -> Extensions menu.

Good luck!

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:37 AM, DragonFlier <dracheflieger-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Installed fine but gave numerous errors about additional addons that I had never installed. All were language packs. Also, immediately after the update my shortcut to the Favorite would not start FF but had to deg into the menu to bring it up under Multimedia.

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DragonFlier | 2 Oct 15:44 2008
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Re: Firefox 3.02 PBI

I have no problems installing from ports and usually do as I rarely use PBIs but it's the testing for those people that do use PBIs that I'm concerned about in my original message.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 2:41 AM, flat. rose <flat.rose-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Hey there. Not using PBI's of firefox anymore - it's better to install from port personally for me. In that case I understand better where what lays and easily to find out how to fix issues with google.
So, firefox. http://www.freshports.org/www/firefox3/. There's in the top comment u can find the paths to plugins:
~/.mozilla/plugins or /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins

For me worked only the second one, I've installed swfdec with path /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins and it finally worked for me.
If you're having some language addons then that isn't a trouble since u can leave only english and e.g. your country language for
browsing websites. It's in the Tools -> Addons -> Extensions menu.

Good luck!

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 7:37 AM, DragonFlier <dracheflieger-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Installed fine but gave numerous errors about additional addons that I had never installed. All were language packs. Also, immediately after the update my shortcut to the Favorite would not start FF but had to deg into the menu to bring it up under Multimedia.

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