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Kris Moore | 4 Jul 2008 05:37

New PCBSD7 Alpha with KDE 4.1 available!


Greetings all!

After several weeks of porting and hard work by KDE on FreeBSD and 
PC-BSD teams, I'm pleased to make our first PC-BSD 7 Alpha with KDE 4.1 
(beta2) available! This release is quite a bit different from our 
previous alphas, as the jump from KDE 3.5 to KDE 4.1 is very 
significant, and required us to port our entire codebase over to compile 
/ run with QT 4. As such, I fully expect to have many bugs appear in 
this alpha, and will appreciate your help in finding and fixing them.

Please note, as the 4.1 version of KDE is in beta, and there is still 
porting to be done on the BSD side of things, you may be able to help in 
this area as well. First, if you find bugs in the install + setup of 
PC-BSD, please let us know via the testing list, and we'll begin working 
on them right away. However, if you find bugs in the KDE desktop itself, 
please be sure to check out the KDE bug database (http://bugs.kde.org/) 
first, and determine if the bug should be reported there, or to the 
kde-freebsd porting team.  (http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-freebsd/)

For example, we are already aware of a bug preventing Konsole from working:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164540
(TIP: Use Alt-F2 to launch xterm instead)

Now, without further delay, please enjoy PC-BSD7 Alpha:

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ftp://ftp.pcbsd.org/pub/alpha-isos/i386/PCBSD7-Alpha-07032008-CD1.iso - 
652MB
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Bill Leeper | 4 Jul 2008 08:28
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Re: New PCBSD7 Alpha with KDE 4.1 available!

A couple of quick comments before I hit the sack. I am a bit confused  
here. During the install it prompted me to insert Disk #3. Since I did  
not have three disks I removed disk 2 and just clicked continue. the  
message went away and it then prompted me to reboot, which I did. It  
booted up fine but I have an empty Ports folder and I told it to  
install the ports. The other software I selected to install seems to  
not be there as well. Should I have left disk 2 in the tray and  
clicked OK? I will probably just try a reinstall in the morning.

Also, the font used during the install was a bit too large. When  
filling in the PC-BSD install screen the text "User Accounts" ran down  
into the top of the account list window. And the last line of text in  
the quick tips windows had only the very tops of the characters  
showing. The rest was out of the window. There were several other  
places where text was a bit too large as well.

I have to admit there really are a lot of changes and it will take  
some time getting used to them. I will reserve judgement as to whether  
or not I like them until I have a chance to use them for awhile.  
Overall, though, it looks very nice.

On Jul 3, 2008, at 8:37 PM, Kris Moore wrote:

>
> Greetings all!
>
> After several weeks of porting and hard work by KDE on FreeBSD and
> PC-BSD teams, I'm pleased to make our first PC-BSD 7 Alpha with KDE  
> 4.1
> (beta2) available! This release is quite a bit different from our
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A.Yerenkow | 4 Jul 2008 08:21
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Re: New PCBSD7 Alpha with KDE 4.1 available!

Kris Moore пишет:
> Greetings all!
> 
> After several weeks of porting and hard work by KDE on FreeBSD and 
> PC-BSD teams, I'm pleased to make our first PC-BSD 7 Alpha with KDE 4.1 
> (beta2) available! This release is quite a bit different from our 
> previous alphas, as the jump from KDE 3.5 to KDE 4.1 is very 
> significant, and required us to port our entire codebase over to compile 
> / run with QT 4. As such, I fully expect to have many bugs appear in 
> this alpha, and will appreciate your help in finding and fixing them.
> 
> Please note, as the 4.1 version of KDE is in beta, and there is still 
> porting to be done on the BSD side of things, you may be able to help in 
> this area as well. First, if you find bugs in the install + setup of 
> PC-BSD, please let us know via the testing list, and we'll begin working 
> on them right away. However, if you find bugs in the KDE desktop itself, 
> please be sure to check out the KDE bug database (http://bugs.kde.org/) 
> first, and determine if the bug should be reported there, or to the 
> kde-freebsd porting team.  (http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-freebsd/)
> 
> 
> For example, we are already aware of a bug preventing Konsole from working:
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164540
> (TIP: Use Alt-F2 to launch xterm instead)
> 
> 
> Now, without further delay, please enjoy PC-BSD7 Alpha:
> 
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>
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Marcel K. | 4 Jul 2008 15:02
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Re: New PCBSD7 Alpha with KDE 4.1 available!

Great release Kris, since a few hours i testing this release and after
that i can say that this alpha is not usable to me, after install (no
language packs, the installation does not look good in my 1024x786
resolution) the x-server start great and i can change the driver to
ati or ati-3d-enable but this doesnt work i will change to vesa and
this works! Next setp KDM looks not so good (design) but i can log in!
Now the main problem, after loading kde i can see the desktop for a
moment and after hearing the start sound the screen gets black / white
colors and kde crashes completly - kdm reload! This problem appears
also with root!

Greets from germany,
Marcel Kaeming
www.pc-bsd.de

2008/7/4 A.Yerenkow <yerenkow <at> uct.ua>:
> Kris Moore пишет:
>> Greetings all!
>>
>> After several weeks of porting and hard work by KDE on FreeBSD and
>> PC-BSD teams, I'm pleased to make our first PC-BSD 7 Alpha with KDE 4.1
>> (beta2) available! This release is quite a bit different from our
>> previous alphas, as the jump from KDE 3.5 to KDE 4.1 is very
>> significant, and required us to port our entire codebase over to compile
>> / run with QT 4. As such, I fully expect to have many bugs appear in
>> this alpha, and will appreciate your help in finding and fixing them.
>>
>> Please note, as the 4.1 version of KDE is in beta, and there is still
>> porting to be done on the BSD side of things, you may be able to help in
>> this area as well. First, if you find bugs in the install + setup of
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Kris Moore | 4 Jul 2008 15:17

Re: New PCBSD7 Alpha with KDE 4.1 available!

Bill Leeper wrote:
> A couple of quick comments before I hit the sack. I am a bit confused  
> here. During the install it prompted me to insert Disk #3. Since I did  
> not have three disks I removed disk 2 and just clicked continue. the  
> message went away and it then prompted me to reboot, which I did. It  
> booted up fine but I have an empty Ports folder and I told it to  
> install the ports. The other software I selected to install seems to  
> not be there as well. Should I have left disk 2 in the tray and  
> clicked OK? I will probably just try a reinstall in the morning.

Opps, sorry about that. I Should have mentioned, that for this Alpha, 
please skip the optional components section. Those will be on CD3 
eventually, and our build server is still busy cranking them out. I'll 
try to have them ready for the next alpha in a week or so.

> Also, the font used during the install was a bit too large. When  
> filling in the PC-BSD install screen the text "User Accounts" ran down  
> into the top of the account list window. And the last line of text in  
> the quick tips windows had only the very tops of the characters  
> showing. The rest was out of the window. There were several other  
> places where text was a bit too large as well.

Yea, that is a new bug, I've seen it here on my widescreen desktop. I'll 
get that fixed up for the next alpha as well :)

--

-- 

Kris Moore
PC-BSD Software
http://www.pcbsd.com
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a. yerenkow | 4 Jul 2008 13:14
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Re: New PCBSD7 Alpha with KDE 4.1 available!

Kris Moore wrote:
> Bill Leeper wrote:
>   
>> A couple of quick comments before I hit the sack. I am a bit confused  
>> here. During the install it prompted me to insert Disk #3. Since I did  
>> not have three disks I removed disk 2 and just clicked continue. the  
>> message went away and it then prompted me to reboot, which I did. It  
>> booted up fine but I have an empty Ports folder and I told it to  
>> install the ports. The other software I selected to install seems to  
>> not be there as well. Should I have left disk 2 in the tray and  
>> clicked OK? I will probably just try a reinstall in the morning.
>>     
>
>
> Opps, sorry about that. I Should have mentioned, that for this Alpha, 
> please skip the optional components section. Those will be on CD3 
> eventually, and our build server is still busy cranking them out. I'll 
> try to have them ready for the next alpha in a week or so.
>
>
>   
>> Also, the font used during the install was a bit too large. When  
>> filling in the PC-BSD install screen the text "User Accounts" ran down  
>> into the top of the account list window. And the last line of text in  
>> the quick tips windows had only the very tops of the characters  
>> showing. The rest was out of the window. There were several other  
>> places where text was a bit too large as well.
>>     
>
> Yea, that is a new bug, I've seen it here on my widescreen desktop. I'll
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Bill Leeper | 4 Jul 2008 17:25
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Re: New PCBSD7 Alpha with KDE 4.1 available!


On Jul 4, 2008, at 6:17 AM, Kris Moore wrote:

> Bill Leeper wrote:
>> A couple of quick comments before I hit the sack. I am a bit confused
>> here. During the install it prompted me to insert Disk #3. Since I  
>> did
>> not have three disks I removed disk 2 and just clicked continue. the
>> message went away and it then prompted me to reboot, which I did. It
>> booted up fine but I have an empty Ports folder and I told it to
>> install the ports. The other software I selected to install seems to
>> not be there as well. Should I have left disk 2 in the tray and
>> clicked OK? I will probably just try a reinstall in the morning.
>
>
> Opps, sorry about that. I Should have mentioned, that for this Alpha,
> please skip the optional components section. Those will be on CD3
> eventually, and our build server is still busy cranking them out. I'll
> try to have them ready for the next alpha in a week or so.
>

I figured that out after I sent the message. All I can say is that it  
was after midnight and I am getting too old for these late night  
tests.   :-)

So I will just work with this installation then. I was a bit startled  
by how much it changed with the new KDE. On my widescreen monitor the  
panel did not go all the way across the screen and the trash can was  
positioned like I would have expected it to be at a lower resolution.  
I had to move it to the corner, but I suspect these are problems with
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brian | 4 Jul 2008 19:22
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New PCBSD7 Alpha with KDE 4.1

 This is sixth time I've tested a KDE4 OS and found it unusable . Here 
is my experience :

- the installer , video setup , and artwork are excellent - as usual

- extras were offered but unavailable for install

- multiple CDs , why not one DVD ?

- boot fails and hangs with "sio1:port may not be enabled " , unplugging 
my bluetooth dongle and hitting reset fixes the problem

- the new kick off menu , at least for me , is horribly unintuitive - I 
seen no way to change it

- I couldn't find a shortcut to update ports or system source

- konsole gave me a black box - literally  , no prompt , nothing

- The icons ( or widgets I guess ) were in some kind of semi 
transparent  boxes that , to me anyways , clutter up the desktop .

- I had an error trying to get a little deeper into system settings , 
but by that time was ready to reboot .

My conclusions

- Unless KDE4 makes some radical usability improvements , I am done with 
KDE centered distros . I am switching  all my Linux desktops over to 
Gnome . I'm sure that die hard KDE fans will disagree , but the proof is
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Tim McCormick | 4 Jul 2008 20:21

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> - multiple CDs , why not one DVD ?

This is planned before PCBSD 7 Final

> - the new kick off menu , at least for me , is horribly unintuitive - I
> seen no way to change it

You can remove the new menu from the panel, and then add the 'Application 
Launcher Menu' if you want the old style menu back. Personally I rather like 
the new one :)

> - I couldn't find a shortcut to update ports or system source

Start -> System Settings -> System Manager (at the bottom). Albeit, it isn't 
working yet.

> - konsole gave me a black box - literally  , no prompt , nothing

Known problem with KDE4 on FreeBSD. Use xterm instead until we get it fixed.

> - The icons ( or widgets I guess ) were in some kind of semi
> transparent  boxes that , to me anyways , clutter up the desktop .

That's the KDE4 desktop philosophy. The desktop isn't somewhere for just 
icons, it's somewhere for plasma widgets. One of the widgets is a so 
called 'folder view' so you can use it in the old way. I believe there's also 
a way to set the desktop containment to a folder view so it behaves in the 
old fashioned way, but you'd have to google to find how, I've not looked into 
it.
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Odhiambo Washington | 4 Jul 2008 21:38
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Re: New PCBSD7 Alpha with KDE 4.1 available!

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Kris Moore <kris@...> wrote:
>
> Greetings all!
>
> After several weeks of porting and hard work by KDE on FreeBSD and
> PC-BSD teams, I'm pleased to make our first PC-BSD 7 Alpha with KDE 4.1
> (beta2) available! This release is quite a bit different from our
> previous alphas, as the jump from KDE 3.5 to KDE 4.1 is very
> significant, and required us to port our entire codebase over to compile
> / run with QT 4. As such, I fully expect to have many bugs appear in
> this alpha, and will appreciate your help in finding and fixing them.
>
> Please note, as the 4.1 version of KDE is in beta, and there is still
> porting to be done on the BSD side of things, you may be able to help in
> this area as well. First, if you find bugs in the install + setup of
> PC-BSD, please let us know via the testing list, and we'll begin working
> on them right away. However, if you find bugs in the KDE desktop itself,
> please be sure to check out the KDE bug database (http://bugs.kde.org/)
> first, and determine if the bug should be reported there, or to the
> kde-freebsd porting team.  (http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-freebsd/)
>
>
> For example, we are already aware of a bug preventing Konsole from working:
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=164540
> (TIP: Use Alt-F2 to launch xterm instead)
>
>
> Now, without further delay, please enjoy PC-BSD7 Alpha:

I have installed it under VMware wkstn 6.0.4 and I could not find any
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