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Charles A. Landemaine | 3 May 2007 04:08

[PC-BSD Testing] Problems of the snapshot version

Now that our auto-build server is up and running, I think it's a good  
opportunity to list all problems of the snapshot build. I'm testing the  
monday build.

1) The initial text-based menu is from old times. I think we should change  
it, make it nicer, etc...
2) The title bar of the initial text-based menu reads "PC-BSD 1.4 Beta"  
but it's not a beta version
3) The background paper of the system installer is a black and white  
pattern. It should be artwork (ie: the wall paper)
4) The left columns that list the different steps reads "1.3" instead of  
maybe 1.4a or something
5) After being reported several months ago, the label text is still cut  
off if you choose a different language from English. People who are not  
used to operating systems may not be able to install PC-BSD is they choose  
a foreign language. This is a serious problem that hasn't been addressed  
so far.
6) While typing the password confirmation, you get a red alert saying the  
passwords don't match. This doesn't look professional. This bug was  
reported before 1.3 also.
7) The tips under the NIC config advanced screen are not translated  
(although they were)
8) When there are alerts, for instance when it asks for CD2, the title bar  
is utterly ugly
9) After installing PC-BSD, icons of the Start menu are jagged
10) There is no icon on the desktop. I would expect at least a Konqueror  
shortcut, a Trash can, a "My computer" and a "My documents" icon.
11) Personal taste, I prefered the 1.3 look and feel (title bars and task  
bar)
12) When I double-click a PBI on a shared directory, I get a prompt that
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Tim McCormick | 3 May 2007 17:48

Re: [PC-BSD Testing] Problems of the snapshot version

Just responding to a couple of items, for more details...

> 6) While typing the password confirmation, you get a red alert saying the
> passwords don't match. This doesn't look professional. This bug was
> reported before 1.3 also.

What isn't professional about it? I think this issue's a bit subjective. I personally like the colouration
of the box. Try not to confuse a 'bug' with a 'personal preference'.

> 12) When I double-click a PBI on a shared directory, I get a prompt that
> asks if I want to save the file or open it with runpbi.sh. First, it
> shouldn't ask if I want to save it because it's already saved. Second, it
> should name the tool that is going to be run instead of the name of its
> file (ie: PBI Launcher instead of runpbi.sh)

What do you mean by 'shared directory'? Do you mean, using Konqueror to open a file found on another
machine's samba share?

> 18) I typed the two DNS servers during system installation but after
> rebooting PC-BSD, in the Network Configuration tool, the 1st DNS listed is
> unknown to me (it's a different one).

Are you using DHCP per chance? That's the only place I can think of for this mystery server to be coming from.
What's the IP?

> 19) PC-BSD doesn't shut down (ACPI issue) while Linux shuts down my
> computer properly

I've responded to this elsewhere, in a couple of places.
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Andrei Kolu | 3 May 2007 18:24

Re: [PC-BSD Testing] Problems of the snapshot version

On Thursday 03 May 2007 18:48, Tim McCormick wrote:
> Just responding to a couple of items, for more details...
>
> > 6) While typing the password confirmation, you get a red alert saying the
> > passwords don't match. This doesn't look professional. This bug was
> > reported before 1.3 also.
>
> What isn't professional about it? I think this issue's a bit subjective. I
> personally like the colouration of the box. Try not to confuse a 'bug' with
> a 'personal preference'.
>
I'd expect similar behaviour from root password box.

> > 18) I typed the two DNS servers during system installation but after
> > rebooting PC-BSD, in the Network Configuration tool, the 1st DNS listed
> > is unknown to me (it's a different one).
>
> Are you using DHCP per chance? That's the only place I can think of for
> this mystery server to be coming from. What's the IP?
>
I selected DHCP in installer and found no internet connection after system 
restart. Network is not configured

> > 19) PC-BSD doesn't shut down (ACPI issue) while Linux shuts down my
> > computer properly
>
> I've responded to this elsewhere, in a couple of places.
>
Some computer manufacturers got strange idea of ACPI standards and doesn't 
provide any documentation to resolve issues.
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Charles A. Landemaine | 3 May 2007 19:46

Re: [PC-BSD Testing] Problems of the snapshot version

On Thu, 03 May 2007 12:48:07 -0300, Tim McCormick <tim@...> wrote:
> What isn't professional about it? I think this issue's a bit subjective.  
> I personally like the colouration of the box. Try not to confuse a 'bug'  
> with a 'personal preference'.

No, I think the coloration of the box is pretty neat, but what I find  
unprofessional is the fact that whatever you do, you'll get this error  
message. It should wait for the user to finish typing (when the password  
verification box loses focus) to check if passwords match, and not while  
you're typing, or else, no matter fast you can type, you get this rather  
unfriendly warning.

> What do you mean by 'shared directory'? Do you mean, using Konqueror to  
> open a file found on another machine's samba share?

Yes, exactly.

> Are you using DHCP per chance? That's the only place I can think of for  
> this mystery server to be coming from. What's the IP?

No, I never use DHCP, only static private IPs and the DNS of my ISP.
The first DNS listed is: 68.87.69.146 (I have no idea where it comes from).

>> 19) PC-BSD doesn't shut down (ACPI issue) while Linux shuts down my
>> computer properly
> I've responded to this elsewhere, in a couple of places.

Yes, but what I don't understand is why Linux shuts down the computer  
properly but not PC-BSD (both are open-source software).
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Charles A. Landemaine | 3 May 2007 19:46

[PC-BSD Testing] More issues with the snapshot

1) gtk-qt-engine is installed but doesn't seem to work. I installed  
Firefox (native version), but the GUI is ugly
2) The fontconfig files are gone. If necessary, they can be downloaded  
here: http://www.osresources.com/files/centos-windows-fonts/fontconfig.tbz

Still chasing bugs...

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Richard Ashton | 4 May 2007 01:06
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[PC-BSD Testing] [Re: Testing Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2] Message 4, strange IP

Charles' mystery IP is indeed a mystery.
A whois shows this...

> Whois:     Final results obtained from whois.arin.net.
> Results:
> Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. JUMPSTART-2 (NET-68-80-0-0-1)
> 68.80.0.0 - 68.87.255.255
> Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. COMCAST-18 (NET-68-87-64-0-1)
> 68.87.64.0 - 68.87.127.255
> 
> # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-05-02 19:10
> # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

Richard

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Tim McCormick | 4 May 2007 10:54

Re: [PC-BSD Testing] [Re: Testing Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2] Message 4, strange IP

Ahha!

I happen to know Kris uses Comcast as his ISP, or at least he used to. It's possible that he left a relic in the
code from his testing, and that's why what is probably one of the DNS servers he uses, is showing up on your system!

I'll take a look at the code when I get a chance :)

Thanks Richard,

Tim

On Fri, 04 May 2007 08:36:28 +0930, Richard Ashton
<richard.a@...> wrote:
> Charles' mystery IP is indeed a mystery.
> A whois shows this...
> 
>> Whois:     Final results obtained from whois.arin.net.
>> Results:
>> Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. JUMPSTART-2 (NET-68-80-0-0-1)
>> 68.80.0.0 - 68.87.255.255
>> Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. COMCAST-18 (NET-68-87-64-0-1)
>> 68.87.64.0 - 68.87.127.255
>>
>> # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2007-05-02 19:10
>> # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
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Matt Meyer | 4 May 2007 20:00

Re: [PC-BSD Testing] [Re: Testing Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2] Message 4, strange IP

I got the same thing in my DNS field, I also remember seeing something  
about borgcube.comcast.something or other.

Also, the network manager doesn't work at all in this snapshot,  
ethernetconfig is missing.(/PCBSD/networkmanager/bin/ethernetconfig  
'nve0' not found.)

I chose to use DHCP during install, and had to start dhclient manually  
after fixing the DNS address and stuff. I don't know if it wasn't  
restarted after changes were made or was never started at all.

I also had a period after my chosen hostname for some reason, which  
has happened in every version of PCBSD I've used; but I've been using  
the KDE networking utility on all of them as well.

The rest of the install seemed to go fine apart from the above  
networking issues.

Quoting Tim McCormick <tim@...>:

> Ahha!
>
> I happen to know Kris uses Comcast as his ISP, or at least he used   
> to. It's possible that he left a relic in the code from his testing,  
>  and that's why what is probably one of the DNS servers he uses, is   
> showing up on your system!
>
> I'll take a look at the code when I get a chance :)
>
> Thanks Richard,
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Kris Moore | 4 May 2007 22:39

Re: [PC-BSD Testing] [Re: Testing Digest, Vol 5, Issue 2] Message 4, strange IP


Thanks for the heads up on this! I've hopefully fixed the ethernetconfig 
issue, it was failing to compile properly. I've also changed the 
hostname to "pcbsd", and removed the resolv.conf file, so hopefully you 
wont see problems with DNS :)

Matt Meyer wrote:
> I got the same thing in my DNS field, I also remember seeing something  
> about borgcube.comcast.something or other.
> 
> Also, the network manager doesn't work at all in this snapshot,  
> ethernetconfig is missing.(/PCBSD/networkmanager/bin/ethernetconfig  
> 'nve0' not found.)
> 
> I chose to use DHCP during install, and had to start dhclient manually  
> after fixing the DNS address and stuff. I don't know if it wasn't  
> restarted after changes were made or was never started at all.
> 
> I also had a period after my chosen hostname for some reason, which  
> has happened in every version of PCBSD I've used; but I've been using  
> the KDE networking utility on all of them as well.
> 
> The rest of the install seemed to go fine apart from the above  
> networking issues.
> 
> Quoting Tim McCormick <tim@...>:
> 
>> Ahha!
>>
>> I happen to know Kris uses Comcast as his ISP, or at least he used
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Charles A. Landemaine | 5 May 2007 03:58

[PC-BSD Testing] A few more problems

When I drag and drop a Window share directory icon from Konqueror to my  
desktop, the resulting icon is a sheet instead of a folder.

The Internet is of pretty bad quality on PC-BSD. On my 2 computers I have  
a dual boot with Windows and PC-BSD. Both systems have the same  
configuration. On Windows, no problem, perfect connection to the Internet.  
On PC-BSD, with any browser I have the same problem. It takes *minutes* to  
open anything, and *at least* 50% of times I get a "Host unreachable"  
error message or "Can't display page". There's a high packet loss rate. I  
don't know why, I have no such problem on Windows. I didn't chose to  
install the firewall during PC-BSD installation also.
Any one else with this sort of problem?

The Konqueror Web Browser is wasting screen room again. The toolbars  
should be reorganized. And when you have only one tab open in a window,  
the tab symbol is unnecessary visible.

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