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Martin Bochnig | 19 Sep 19:51 2014

OpenSXCE It is illegal to sell without source code.

Hi Joerg and all,

thank you for your friendly messages.
Yes, everything started at first with SchilliX. Even BeleniX at its
very beginning, the father of Indiana, which was then simply cloned
and is now known as OI. In truth it is BeleniX++, which was originally
derived at first from SchillIX, but added a myriad of stuff engineered
by Moinak Ghosh and his team in Bangalore!!! And afterwards by Sun's
Caiman team (thanks to dave Miner!). And X11 group (Thanks to Alan
Coopersmith mainly, but also to Stuart Kreitman and their his team
members)

Until 2007 we were a true community of competing but friendly
individuals. Then came a few Sun managers and hired Ian Murdock for PR
reasons only, then came IPS as enforced by Dr. Hahn and so on, the
beginning of the end of OpenSolaris and even of Solaris in total.

OI would not exist, without our early initial Distros from the era
directly after 20050614.
Therefore I find it extremely painful, how some "persons" dealt with
you, at times.
And then also with me and others.

I only re-subscribed to point out a single aspect, that may not be
clear to all of you, due to the unfortunate subject line at the top,
as chosen by Nikola last week (we are friends now, btw). But this
headline may confuse some readers: It is not true, that I enforced
payments. Maybe I tried it in June 2014, but gave up after 2 days.

The full versions had always been FREE to be downloaded by anyone, anonymously.
In theory I had the policy, that capatalists need to pay depending on
the size of their businesses, but in reality they never were honest
enough to pay a Cent. While the poor did donate!  :-)
But it was completely voluntary, by no means at all mandatory of a
"business plan".

Only wanted to make this clear again.

DilOS and OpenSXCE will have a bright future, and SchilliX is also
welcome to participate.
That's all I can tell you at this time.

Until mid of October I'll be in Ukraine, then it starts  ;)
I'm still in talks with Igor and cannot say anything without his permission.
But OpenSXCE will of course open its code, but carefully. And not for trolls.
(most code is available at Sun/Oracle anyway, but it appears many are
not even aware of that lol)

Thanks, regards,
%martin
Aurélien Larcher | 10 Sep 17:00 2014
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Perl SVN dependency and relocation issue

Hi,
running an up-to-date Hipster and calling 'git svn' as below:

larcher <at> na75:> /usr/bin/git svn clone http://devicemanagerofsjtu.googlecode.com/svn/trunk --no-metadata -A authors-transform.txt --stdlayout ~/temp
Initialized empty Git repository in /home/larcher/temp/.git/
Can't locate SVN/Core.pm in <at> INC ( <at> INC contains: /usr/perl5/site_perl/5.16/i86pc-solaris-64int /usr/perl5/site_perl/5.16 /usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.16/i86pc-solaris-64int /usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.16 /usr/perl5/5.16/lib/i86pc-solaris-64int /usr/perl5/5.16/lib .) at /usr/lib/git-core/git-svn line 41.

first shows a missing dependency to pkg:/library/perl-5/subversion

After installing it, the following error occurs:

larcher <at> na75:> /usr/bin/git svn clone http://devicemanagerofsjtu.googlecode.com/svn/trunk --no-metadata -A authors-transform.txt --stdlayout ~/temp
Can't load '/usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.16/i86pc-solaris-64int/auto/SVN/_Core/_Core.so' for module SVN::_Core: ld.so.1: perl: fatal: relocation error: file /usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.16/i86pc-solaris-64int/auto/SVN/_Core/_Core.so: symbol svn_swig_pl_thunk_ssl_server_trust_prompt: referenced symbol not found at /usr/perl5/5.16/lib/i86pc-solaris-64int/DynaLoader.pm line 190.
 at /usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.16/SVN/Base.pm line 59.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/perl5/vendor_perl/5.16/SVN/Core.pm line 5.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/git-core/git-svn line 41.

I am not sure what would be the fix for the latter issue.
Best regards,

Aurelien


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Arhipkin Ilya | 9 Sep 10:45 2014

Miass OpenSolaris WebStack

Dory day I hasten to inform about online community is entering into a public organization can adequately any hope, it is our mission kommniti. Community communicates, as in reality, and by correspondence through the forum

Product release is scheduled for 2024 June.

The product includes a bunch of Apache + MySQL + PHP, server control panel. Compiler Sun Studio, Solaris Studio development studio in 2010.
http://www.osol.arhipkin.com
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Nikola M. | 1 Sep 05:21 2014
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Not Seeing Yahoo user's Names in messages on list

I see that Sender's names on the list, for Yahoo users, are displayed as 
''OpenIndiana Developer mailing list" to me, instead of seeing who is 
actually sender to the list.
Wasn't that thing supposed to be solved some time ago?
Alexander Pyhalov | 26 Aug 14:33 2014
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cmake.mk

Hi, thanks for adding cmake.mk.
Have you tried to make some existing components use it?
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Aurélien Larcher | 26 Aug 10:15 2014
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LD relocation error and GCC visibility

Hi,
for what it is worth, just a note as I encountered relocation errors while compiling VTK and Paraview seemingly due to linking shared libraries to non-PIC static libraries.

- All the objects had been compiled with -fPIC.
- Passing -mimpure-text to GCC to ignore the linker error (removing -z text from the flags passed to ld) leads to immediate segmentation fault.
- Disabling visibility allowed to build a functioning library.

Text relocation remains                     referenced
    against symbol            offset    in file
std::_Rb_tree<vtkVariant, std::pair<vtkVariant const, int>, std::_Select1st<std::pair<vtkVariant const, int> >, std::less<vtkVariant>, std::allocator<std::pair<vtkVariant const, int> > >::_M_erase(std::_Rb_tree_node<std::pair<vtkVariant const, int> >*) 0x3bf3        CMakeFiles/vtkInfovisCore.dir/vtkReduceTable.cxx.o
std::_Rb_tree<vtkVariant, std::pair<vtkVariant const, int>, std::_Select1st<std::pair<vtkVariant const, int> >, std::less<vtkVariant>, std::allocator<std::pair<vtkVariant const, int> > >::_M_erase(std::_Rb_tree_node<std::pair<vtkVariant const, int> >*) 0x428e        CMakeFiles/vtkInfovisCore.dir/vtkReduceTable.cxx.o
ld: fatal: relocations remain against allocatable but non-writable sections
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

Is GCC visibility known to be broken with Solaris/Illumos ld ?
Best regards,

Aurelien


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seth Nimbosa | 24 Aug 07:15 2014
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​Re: Any interest for Qt 4.8.6 in hipster ?

Hi Aurélien,

Thanks for the initiative on updating Qt for hipster, as we had a stale 
​Q
t 4.7.4 on oi151a9 /dev distro.  However, I vote up 
the idea of 
Andreas Wacknitz to target higher / newer versions of Qt 5.x for general use, as it would need less maintaining in the future.  Is there any particular hurdle that would make this more difficult than porting Qt 4.8.6?  Also, may we know what "scientific software" depends on having Qt, and does it need version 4.8.6 in particular?

I am looking into bringing newer Qt packages for both /dev and /hipster.
Please keep us updated, Thanks!

- Seth Nimbosa


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   1. Any interest for Qt 4.8.6 in hipster ? (Aur?lien Larcher)
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Re: Any interest for Qt 4.8.6 in hipster ? (Alexander Pyhalov)
   3. Re: Any interest for Qt 4.8.6 in hipster ? (Aur?lien Larcher)
   4. Re: Any interest for Qt 4.8.6 in hipster ? (Udo Grabowski (IMK))
   5. Re: Any interest for Qt 4.8.6 in hipster ? (Andreas Wacknitz)

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From: "Aurélien Larcher" <
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aurelien.larcher <at> gmail.com>
To: Alexander Pyhalov <
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Cc: OpenIndiana Developer mailing list <oi-dev <at> openindiana.org>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:42:50 +0200
Subject: Re: [oi-dev] Any interest for Qt 4.8.6 in hipster ?
Hi Alexander,
I would basically update Qt following the requirements of the scientific software I use, so that would be once a year or so.
I cannot promise to update every minor.

Regarding the size, the total is 486M, but as you see:

larcher <at> na75:> du -sh /opt/qt/4.8.6/*
43M    /opt/qt/4.8.6/bin
938K    /opt/qt/4.8.6/imports
14M    /opt/qt/4.8.6/include
109M    /opt/qt/4.8.6/lib
319M    /opt/qt/4.8.6/share
1.8M    /opt/qt/4.8.6/tests

The documentation is 308M.

I can look at splitting Qt to different packages but any help would be appreciated.
Best regards

Aurelien



On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Alexander Pyhalov <alp <at> rsu.ru> wrote:
On 08/22/2014 17:13, Aurélien Larcher wrote:
Hi everyone,
in order to update
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Paraview on my machine I just built and installed Qt
4.8.6 (32bit version built with g++ with some help from SFE patches) so I
am wondering if there is any interest in having Qt in hipster ?
If it is the case I can take some time to add a component.
Best regards


Hi.
It's interesting as more and more software is using qt. For example, we can't update fbreader because it requires qt. I've recently stepped on something else, but don't remember. If you volunteer to update it periodically, I'd prefer to have it. If not, I'm not sure that it's necessary. Another question is how large is qt? If it's large (>40-50MB) - could it be splitted into several packages so that we shouldn't fetch too much data to satisfy some odd dependencies?

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From: "Udo Grabowski (IMK)" <udo.grabowski <at> kit.edu>
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:54:43 +0200
Subject: Re: [oi-dev] Any interest for Qt 4.8.6 in hipster ?
On 22/08/2014 15:13, Aurélien Larcher wrote:
Hi everyone,
in order to update Paraview on my machine I just built and installed Qt 4.8.6
(32bit version built with g++ with some help from SFE patches) so I am wondering
if there is any interest in having Qt in hipster ?
If it is the case I can take some time to add a component.

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qt 4.7.4 is installed in /usr/g++/lib/ on oi151a7-9 dev.
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:55:45 +0200
Subject: Re: [oi-dev] Any interest for Qt 4.8.6 in hipster ?
Hi Aurélien,

Generally I am interested because I still try to use oi as a workstation / desktop OS and qt is widely used in applications nowadays.
Would it be possible to support newer versions, too? The actual version is 5.3 and 5.4 is due in about two months.

Regards
Andreas

Am 22.08.14 15:13, schrieb Aurélien Larcher:
Hi everyone,
in order to update Paraview on my machine I just built and installed Qt 4.8.6 (32bit version built with g++ with some help from SFE patches) so I am wondering if there is any interest in having Qt in hipster ?
If it is the case I can take some time to add a component.
Best regards

Aurelien

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Gary Gendel | 22 Aug 18:33 2014

smtp-notify with postfix or other MTA

On my machines I use postfix and qmail as MTAs.  Both provide 
/usr/lib/sendmail to make them sendmail compatible however, smtp-notify 
requires the sendmail package

I've got the sendmail service disabled and /usr/lib/sendmail is the 
appropriate replacement.  The problem is that, whenever sendmail is 
updated, it overwrites /usr/lib/sendmail which I then have to replace 
manually.

I'd like to completely remove the sendmail package so this doesn't 
happen, but I don't want to remove smtp-notify.  There is no "force 
uninstall" that I can see to do this or a way to say that postfix, etc. 
is equivalent to sendmail.  Is there a better way to get notified of 
failures so I don't use smtp-notify?

Any suggestions?

Gary

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Aurélien Larcher | 22 Aug 15:13 2014
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Any interest for Qt 4.8.6 in hipster ?

Hi everyone,
in order to update Paraview on my machine I just built and installed Qt 4.8.6 (32bit version built with g++ with some help from SFE patches) so I am wondering if there is any interest in having Qt in hipster ?
If it is the case I can take some time to add a component.
Best regards

Aurelien

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Aurélien Larcher | 21 Aug 18:48 2014
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CMake 2.8.6 oi-userland patchset question

Hi,
after several month of standby, I am looking looking at bumping CMake to 2.8.12.2 and just skimmed through the current patchset in oi-userland.
Most of it consists in removing /usr/local and /opt/csw from the search path of Find***.cmake files.
How crucial is it ?
Best regards,

Aurelien

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