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Thorsten Glaser | 2 May 2004 15:34
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PIC and SO libraries

Hello developers,

I've got a question regarding PIC and shared libraries.

There are numerous libFOO_pic.a files in /usr/lib, let's
pick libc_pic.a as an example.
If I understand this issue correctly, libc_pic.a consists
of exactly these object files which are also used to
generate libc.so.X.Y - not more and not less.

Now, what are these PIC libraries being used for, especially
on ELF systems?

Would it be possible to get rid of every libFOO_pic.a for
which an appropriate libFOO.so.X.Y exists, or are these
still being used for something?

Thanks,
//Thorsten
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Marc Espie | 2 May 2004 19:55
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Re: PIC and SO libraries

On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 01:34:20PM +0000, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> Would it be possible to get rid of every libFOO_pic.a for
> which an appropriate libFOO.so.X.Y exists, or are these
> still being used for something?

The FOO_pic library will allow you to build a new bar.so.* that uses these
object files directly, without a need for external reference to FOO.so.*,
which can be handy under some circumstances.
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Thorsten Glaser | 2 May 2004 20:07
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Re: PIC and SO libraries

Dixitur illum espie <at> nerim.net scribere...

>On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 01:34:20PM +0000, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
>> Would it be possible to get rid of every libFOO_pic.a for
>> which an appropriate libFOO.so.X.Y exists, or are these
>> still being used for something?
>
>The FOO_pic library will allow you to build a new bar.so.* that uses these
>object files directly, without a need for external reference to FOO.so.*,
>which can be handy under some circumstances.

Yes, but I don't really see a case where I wouldn't want to link
against the shared library - for example ramdisks use static
linkage anyways.

Do you think removing the _pic libs would break anything right now?

bye,
//Thorsten
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Solange man keine schmutzigen Tricks macht, und ich meine *wirklich*
schmutzige Tricks, wie bei einer doppelt verketteten Liste beide
Pointer XORen und in nur einem Word speichern, funktioniert Boehm ganz
hervorragend.		-- Andreas Bogk über boehm-gc in d.a.s.r
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Eduardo Alvarenga | 4 May 2004 09:19

OpenSSH chroot patch


 I'm posting this question BEFORE sending the patch because the idea
 may be rejected. So... Are you guys interested about an OpenSSH 
 chroot patch (that really works)? I've found pdj <at> freebsd's one and 
 adapted it to OpenBSD and it's working fine here.

 I have also included some documentation.

 Best Regards,

 --
 Eduardo A. Alvarenga 
 Analista de Suporte
 Centro Estratégico Integrado / SEGUP-PA
 (91) 259-0555 / 8116-0036
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O C. | 4 May 2004 10:34
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ADSL

I want to learn the model and manufacturer "internal" ADSL modem that works
properly
under OpenBSD.
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Damien Miller | 4 May 2004 13:29
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Re: ADSL

O C. wrote:
> I want to learn the model and manufacturer "internal" ADSL modem that works
> properly
> under OpenBSD.

The last time I checked (~18 months ago), there are no manufacturers who
were willing to release the hardware specification necessary to write an
OpenBSD driver.

-d
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Michael Hamerski | 4 May 2004 15:54

Re: ADSL

the sangoma s518 PCI has openbsd drivers, haven't tried it though and
cost is ~ 170 euros

http://www.sangoma.com/products/p_s518adsl-specs.htm

http://www.siriusit.co.uk/hardware/s518.html

hope it helps,

mike

O C. wrote:

> I want to learn the model and manufacturer "internal" ADSL modem that works
> properly
> under OpenBSD.
> 
> 
> 
> .
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Robert Urban | 4 May 2004 16:32
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Re: Invitation to Italy (and Sweden) vip/ba

if you are going to send something like this to the the OpenBSD-Tech
list (which is probably also wrong, but I imagine you'll hear from
other people about that), I suggest you get someone with passable
english skills to proofread it beforehand.

Your mail is full of errors and difficult to understand.

Robert Urban

You wrote:
> Dear Potential Speaker of the IPSI-2004 Pescara:
> 
> I am happy to invite you to be a speaker at the VIP Scientific Forum of the I
nternational IPSI-2004 PESCARA Conference in Italy (IPSI = Internet, Processing
, Systems for e-education/e-business, and Interdisciplinaries), to be held in t
he hotel Castello Chiola from July 28 till August 2, 2004. Detailed program and
 all relevant information are given at the web: www.internetconferences.net.
> 
> Castello Chiola is a century IX castle on the top of a hill, with a sea view;
 best Italian beaches around Pescara are only about 10km away. This is our form
er L'Aquila conference relocated to a place which is much more attractive and c
onvenient. Opening keynote: Professor Michael Flynn, from Stanford University.
> 
> Deadlines: 
> Abstract (100 words) = April 30, 2004
> Full Papers = May 10, 2004
> Paper Acceptance Notification = May 20, 2004
> Hotel Payment = May 30, 2004
> Fee Payment = June 10, 2004
>
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Zvezdan Petkovic | 4 May 2004 17:02
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Re: Invitation to Italy (and Sweden) vip/ba

On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 04:32:04PM +0200, Robert Urban wrote:
> if you are going to send something like this to the the OpenBSD-Tech
> list (which is probably also wrong, but I imagine you'll hear from
> other people about that), I suggest you get someone with passable
> english skills to proofread it beforehand.
> 
> Your mail is full of errors and difficult to understand.
> 
> Robert Urban

I understand your annoyance with seeing this message on OpenBSD list.
However, I really do not think that you are telling the whole truth when
you claim that the message is written in bad English.

I would really like you to point out (in a private mail to me if you
want) all the parts you consider grammatically or orthographically
incorrect.

It just happens that I know the person who is signed at the bottom.
He is a Fellow of IEEE, has taught for a decade at Purdue University,
and I have very little reason to doubt his English skills in the extent
that you have expressed.

The invitation is a little too formal and stiff sounding perhaps,
and I am still baffled that it was sent to OpenBSD list (I do not
remember seeing it though), but accusing him of not having passable
English skills is ridiculous.

	Zvezdan Petkovic
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parksie ;- | 4 May 2004 15:49

Re: ADSL

On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 09:34, O C. wrote:
> I want to learn the model and manufacturer "internal" ADSL modem that works
> properly
> under OpenBSD.
> 

I've only seen one ADSL modem that seemed to have any OpenBSD support,
and that's the Alcatel SpeedTouch USB...horrible piece of hardware, but
it's all I found. Probably because it was the default modem from my ISP
and a number of other European ISPs.

In general use it works ok, but when the modem crashes (sigh) it
involves unplugging the modem and plugging it back in again, no easy
"reset" code because Alcatel refuse to release any information on it.

Mike.
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