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Diana Eichert | 1 Mar 2006 01:01

Re: serial console

On Tue, 28 Feb 2006, scorch wrote:
SNIP
> i've just done this. perhaps you are over-complicating things.
>
> #1 you do need the same speed at both ends
> #2 you may find it easier the first few times round using minicom (packages)
>
> # set up serial parameters
> # minicom -s
> # minicom
> & you should be away.

Ahh, you're making this complicated.  No reason to use an external
package, minicom, when tip/cu comes with the O/S.

diana
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OpenBSD Prospect | 1 Mar 2006 01:12

Special Interface Aggregation With TRUNK?

Hi!

I'm new to OpenBSD, and want to setup a firewall router with it in the near 
future. I am planning a special setup with four NICs and two different ADSL 
lines:

rl0: ADSL 2048/512
rl1: ADSL 4096/768
re0: DMZ
re1: LAN

Both ADSL lines should be aggregated, to combine the down/upload-bandwidths. 
As far as I could read by now, TRUNK should be, what I'm looking for.

The problem is the following:

There will be one computer in the DMZ, which should be forced to only use the 
ADSL 4096/768 line on rl1 for both down- & uploads, all other machines in the 
DMZ or the LAN should access the virtual trunk interface and benefit from the 
combined bandwiths.

So my main question is, can the physical interface rl1 be accessed directly, 
although it is part of a virtual trunk interface?

In OpenBSD 3.8 there is only the round-robin algorithm suitable for trunk in 
such an application, which seem so be pretty simple. Will it be able to 
handle the two ADSL lines with different bandwidths flawlessly even under 
high load, and how will it react concerning the interface rl1 being accessed 
directly by the one computer in the DMZ directly?
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Harry Putnam | 1 Mar 2006 01:42
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Re: 80x50 console res but .. clean font

Matthias Kilian <kili <at> outback.escape.de> writes:

> On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 03:59:04PM -0600, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> How do I get a dependancy list of ratpoison?
>
> Just X11, IIRC. See /usr/ports/x11/ratpoison/Makefile. Overhead
> compared to a plain text console, but beautyful if you need an X11
> display for some programs but don't want to use a mouse.

I'm not understanding what you mean about the mouse part.  It lacks
mouse support?
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Darrin Chandler | 1 Mar 2006 01:58
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Re: 80x50 console res but .. clean font

Harry Putnam wrote:

>Matthias Kilian <kili <at> outback.escape.de> writes:
>  
>
>>Just X11, IIRC. See /usr/ports/x11/ratpoison/Makefile. Overhead
>>compared to a plain text console, but beautyful if you need an X11
>>display for some programs but don't want to use a mouse.
>>    
>>
>
>I'm not understanding what you mean about the mouse part.  It lacks
>mouse support?
>  
>
Is supports the mouse, but unlike most window managers all navigation 
can be done with the keyboard. It's a *lot* like screen, but extended to 
X. If you like being at console and like screen but want more control 
over resolution, fonts, etc., then ratpoison will be nice for you. I 
don't need much fancy X stuff, but I really like using ratpoison for my 
1920x1200 widescreen (better resolution and crisper fonts than anything 
you'd get at console.)

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Harry Putnam | 1 Mar 2006 02:01
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Re: Dependancies with make search key=

Hannah Schroeter <hannah <at> schlund.de> writes:

> X isn't in packages, but in simple tarballs.
>
> cd / ; for i in some/path/x*.tgz; do tar xvvzpf $i; done
>
> Configure if needed, run X.
>

Nick Holland <nick <at> holland-consulting.net> writes:

> No.
> X is not a "package".  It is a file set, not part of the ports tree.

Not to be argumentative but ratpoison is still dependant on it [them].
Seems that should be made apparent in the ports search output somehow eh?

> Get the X files from a snapshot, install those as above.
> Or, boot an install media, install all file sets.

Thanks for the tips.
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Harry Putnam | 1 Mar 2006 02:06
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Re: 80x50 console res but .. clean font

Darrin Chandler <dwchandler <at> stilyagin.com> writes:

> Is supports the mouse, but unlike most window managers all navigation
> can be done with the keyboard. It's a *lot* like screen, but extended
> to X. If you like being at console and like screen but want more
> control over resolution, fonts, etc., then ratpoison will be nice for
> you. I don't need much fancy X stuff, but I really like using
> ratpoison for my 1920x1200 widescreen (better resolution and crisper
> fonts than anything you'd get at console.)

Ahh thanks for the clear up.  And yes I do like console and screen so
this sounds just about right for me.
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Harry Putnam | 1 Mar 2006 02:22
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Nothing in FAQ about X ?

I haven't seen any section of FAQ devoted to setting up X.  Is it
supposed to just work after installing the base tgz files?

Or maybe I'm just blindly overlooking the section?

The part about building X doesn't have anything to say about setting
it up.  Is it covered somewhere else?

I'm guessing its just supposed to work.  I didn't install the
Xpackages at first bu have now gone back and go them from latest
snapshots. 

xbase39.tgz  xetc39.tgz   xfont39.tgz  xserv39.tgz  xshare39.tgz

Untarred them in root as directed.

Probably some config is required but I see no help about that.

Running `startx' gets a number of library errors.
  xauth: can't load library 'libXau.so.9.0'
  /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: can't load library 'libXext.so.9.0'
  /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: can't load library 'libXmuu.so.4.0'
  /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: can't load library 'libX11.so.9.0'
  /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: can't load library 'libXext.so.9.0'
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Jim Razmus | 1 Mar 2006 02:49
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Re: Nothing in FAQ about X ?

* Harry Putnam <reader <at> newsguy.com> [060228 20:34]:
> I haven't seen any section of FAQ devoted to setting up X.  Is it
> supposed to just work after installing the base tgz files?
> 
> Or maybe I'm just blindly overlooking the section?
> 
> The part about building X doesn't have anything to say about setting
> it up.  Is it covered somewhere else?
> 
> I'm guessing its just supposed to work.  I didn't install the
> Xpackages at first bu have now gone back and go them from latest
> snapshots. 
> 
> xbase39.tgz  xetc39.tgz   xfont39.tgz  xserv39.tgz  xshare39.tgz
> 
> Untarred them in root as directed.
> 
> Probably some config is required but I see no help about that.
> 
> Running `startx' gets a number of library errors.
>   xauth: can't load library 'libXau.so.9.0'
>   /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: can't load library 'libXext.so.9.0'
>   /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: can't load library 'libXmuu.so.4.0'
>   /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit: can't load library 'libX11.so.9.0'
>   /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth: can't load library 'libXext.so.9.0'
> 

man ldconfig

I suspect your library cache is not up to date.  Try using ldconfig -r
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Nick Holland | 1 Mar 2006 03:15
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Re: Nothing in FAQ about X ?

Harry Putnam wrote:
> I haven't seen any section of FAQ devoted to setting up X.  Is it
> supposed to just work after installing the base tgz files?

it would be nice.  But they have not reached that goal yet, at least on 
some very popular platforms.

> Or maybe I'm just blindly overlooking the section?
> 
> The part about building X doesn't have anything to say about setting
> it up.  Is it covered somewhere else?

see
    /usr/X11R6/README
on your installed system for some tips on getting X up and running.

Yes, the FAQ is sadly deficient on setting up and using X at the moment. 
  Hopefully, that will be changing in the future.

Nick.
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Dorothy Crees | 1 Mar 2006 03:33
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Re: error mounting cd0c on -current

 From a command line just issue

cdio play

You'll need to add yourself to the operator group. This also assumes  
that you have a hardware audio cable attached from the cdrom drive to  
your soundcard

Best

Dorothy
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