Re: Haiku on a WebDT 366

> Hey folks,
>
> Searched the mail archives and forums, but couldn't find an answer so I'm
> asking here.  Are any plans in the pipeline for support of DT Research
> devices - specifically, the WebDT 366 (http://bit.ly/6LqVeB)? I've got Alpha
> 1 running on mine right now, and it does quite well compared to the other
> OSes I've had success with (XP Embedded and Puppy Linux), particularly in
> the area of UI responsiveness.
>
Looks to be an AMD Geode based device, CPU should be named properly as
I recall that was added awhile back when I got an AMD Geode up and
running, booting off an IDE connected Compact Flash card.  Amazing to
see Haiku running on a board with no fan or hard drive noises.

> Binary compatibility with R5 apps has also been good, and apart from a few
> known bugs it looks like there's a lot of potential for Haiku on this
> platform.  Anyone who has ever fooled with one of these knows what a pain it
> is to get a fully-functional OS on them, so it was a pleasant surprise to
> see how well Haiku performed at this early stage.
>
> Things currently not working include: WiFi (Cisco Aironet 350; PCMCIA),
> Bluetooth, Compact Flash, audio, and the touchscreen (Penmount).  Note that
> I'm not listing these to knock the progress that has been made or to demand
> fixes; like I said, I'm impressed, and from browsing Trac it's clear that a
> lot of this falls under the category of known issues rather than anything
> platform-specific.
>

There was an attempt to get the Geode audio working and there's even a
build option to include it but we never did get it actually working.

Re: Haiku on a WebDT 366

On 12/31/09, scott mc <scottmc2@...> wrote:
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> Searched the mail archives and forums, but couldn't find an answer so I'm
>> asking here.  Are any plans in the pipeline for support of DT Research
>> devices - specifically, the WebDT 366 (http://bit.ly/6LqVeB)? I've got
>> Alpha
>> 1 running on mine right now, and it does quite well compared to the other
>> OSes I've had success with (XP Embedded and Puppy Linux), particularly in
>> the area of UI responsiveness.
>>
> Looks to be an AMD Geode based device, CPU should be named properly as
> I recall that was added awhile back when I got an AMD Geode up and
> running, booting off an IDE connected Compact Flash card.  Amazing to
> see Haiku running on a board with no fan or hard drive noises.
>
>> Binary compatibility with R5 apps has also been good, and apart from a few
>> known bugs it looks like there's a lot of potential for Haiku on this
>> platform.  Anyone who has ever fooled with one of these knows what a pain
>> it
>> is to get a fully-functional OS on them, so it was a pleasant surprise to
>> see how well Haiku performed at this early stage.
>>
>> Things currently not working include: WiFi (Cisco Aironet 350; PCMCIA),
>> Bluetooth, Compact Flash, audio, and the touchscreen (Penmount).  Note
>> that
>> I'm not listing these to knock the progress that has been made or to
>> demand
>> fixes; like I said, I'm impressed, and from browsing Trac it's clear that
>> a

Esperanto Translation

Drupal Template

Re: Drupal Template

Hi Barett,

2010/1/2 Barrett <barrett666@...>:
> We (haiku italia) are planning to redesign our website (haiku-os.it), our
> idea is to make it similar to haiku-os.org, is possible to have the template
> of the official site to use it as base?

Personally I see no problem with sending you the template, as long as
you try to make it visually and content wise distinct enough from the
main website. This is in order to protect the brand image. I know that
for that reason the previous template was not distributed, but I guess
we could theoretically reach an agreement on how your final template
should differ from the main website.

Having said that, the big speed bump is the unclear licensing of the
current theme. It was designed by Jorge Mare. It is based on the
Acquia Marina template that can be found at
http://drupal.org/project/acquia_marina

The license of that theme is unclear. There is no mention whether it
is released under the GPL (like Drupal is). Until that can be
established, I assume that we (as the Haiku project) got a license for
use of the derative from Jorge, but that (partial) copyright (and as
such the decision) are with him.

[Note that this is not about ethics. Ethically, I feel that like code
'donations', design donations should also have an open license. This
is however, never explicitly agreed upon for the theme which causes
the twilight we are in.]

So you have two options. The first is to contact Jorge and ask him for
the template (and the conditions that go with it). The other option
would be to start from the Acquia Marina template and work from that.

Kind regards,

Niels

Re: Haiku on a WebDT 366

> Looks to be an AMD Geode based device, CPU should be named properly as
> I recall that was added awhile back when I got an AMD Geode up and
> running, booting off an IDE connected Compact Flash card.  Amazing to
> see Haiku running on a board with no fan or hard drive noises.

Interestingly, it shows up in Pulse as 'Unknown', though it did get the
speed (400MHz) correct.  This is still with Alpha 1, by the way.

> There was an attempt to get the Geode audio working and there's even a
> build option to include it but we never did get it actually working.
> This isn't included on the alpha, you'd have to build it and enable
> the geode audio, but it probably won't work (yet).

Cool.  Good to know.

> Check trac tickets 2132 and 2131, perhaps add the output of listdev on
> your to the tickets and perhaps try some of the suggestions listed in
> the tickets, perhaps that will spark some new developement.
> http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/2131
> http://dev.haiku-os.org/ticket/2132

Thanks - I added some stuff to them, and will probably open up a couple
of tickets to cover some of the other hardware in this thing.

> MacPorts... hmm have you checked out at HaikuPorts yet?
> http://ports.haiku-files.org/
> We could always use a few more porters ;)

Oh, awesome, *another* project ;)  Actually, I'll look into it a little
further down the road, because I think it's an awesome idea.  Yes, I'm
most definitely a ports bigot.

- Cameron.

Re: Drupal Template

State of Haiku QA

Hopefully I'm off-base on this, but: I just browsed the Haiku QA mail 
archives, and from that it looks like QA may be somewhat stalled.  Can 
anyone give me a rough idea of where organised testing stands for Haiku 
right now?

FWIW, I'm willing to volunteer my time for testing Geode stuff since 
I've got that WebDT 366 sitting here - which (in addition to Geode) 
would give Cardbus, Bluetooth, USB, WiFi, and touchscreen at least one 
dedicated physical platform to test on.

Cheers,

- Cameron.

Re: Drupal Template

On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 09:57, Niels Reedijk <niels.reedijk@...> wrote:
> 2010/1/2 Barrett <barrett666@...>:
...
> Having said that, the big speed bump is the unclear licensing of the
> current theme. It was designed by Jorge Mare. It is based on the
> Acquia Marina template that can be found at
> http://drupal.org/project/acquia_marina
>
> The license of that theme is unclear. There is no mention whether it
> is released under the GPL (like Drupal is). Until that can be
> established, I assume that we (as the Haiku project) got a license for
> use of the derative from Jorge, but that (partial) copyright (and as
> such the decision) are with him.
>
http://drupalcode.org/viewvc/drupal/contributions/FAQ.txt?view=markup

95 	Q: What license should I use?
96 	A: We currently require that all submissions carry the GNU General
Public License
97 	(GPL). For more information on the GPL, point the browser of your choice to
98 	http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html.
99 	
100 	You don't have to include a LICENSE.txt in your theme or module's
101 	directory because there is global LICENSE.txt in the top-level directory
102 	of the contributions repository. Furthermore, a LICENSE.txt will
103 	automatically be added to each packaged theme or module (.tgz file) that
104 	is offered for download at http://www.drupal.org/.

To further confirm this, Inside the acquia_marina tarball, there is a
LICENSE.txt and is a "GNU GENERAL PUBLIC LICENSE  Version 2, June
1991"  http://ftp.drupal.org/files/projects/acquia_marina-6.x-2.0.tar.gz

Just to make sure, does this infer that the new D6 theme on
haiku-os.org is indeed GPL?

--mmadia

Re: Drupal Template

Howdy,

Matt Madia wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 09:57, Niels Reedijk
<niels.reedijk@...> wrote:
>   
>> 2010/1/2 Barrett <barrett666@...>:
>>     
> ...
>   
>> Having said that, the big speed bump is the unclear licensing of the
>> current theme. It was designed by Jorge Mare. It is based on the
>> Acquia Marina template that can be found at
>> http://drupal.org/project/acquia_marina
>>
>> The license of that theme is unclear. There is no mention whether it
>> is released under the GPL (like Drupal is). Until that can be
>> established, I assume that we (as the Haiku project) got a license for
>> use of the derative from Jorge, but that (partial) copyright (and as
>> such the decision) are with him.
>>     
> ...
>
> Just to make sure, does this infer that the new D6 theme on
> haiku-os.org is indeed GPL?
>   

The new theme used in the Haiku website -- called Shijin 3 -- is version 
6.x-1.3 of the Acquia Marina theme plus a local.css file with a lot of 
CSS overrides and graphic files (i.e., backgrounds, icons, etc.).

License-wise, Acquia Marina is GPL, so Shijin 3 also falls under the 
same license. Which means that I have to release the derived theme, 
which I plan to do once I clean up the files, hopefully this coming 
week, in the form of a generic (as in, not Haiku-specific) theme package.

I do have a question, though, about the Haiku icons used in the theme. 
What is the license of these icons (could not find any info anywhere), 
and is it OK to include them in the theme package?

Hopefully this clarifies the Haiku theme situation; if it doesn't, feel 
free to ask here, and I will respond to the extent that I can.

Cheers!

--

-- 
Jorge/aka Koki
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