NetBSD on AMD x86-64 architecture

David Brownlee | 2 May 2006 12:36

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Re: Experiences with Asus A8N-VM CSM?

On Sat, 29 Apr 2006, Rick Kelly wrote:

> Gary Duzan said:
>
>>   I recall this motherboard being mentioned here before, but that
>> was before it had been evaluated. Does it work ok for i386? For
>> amd64? Which built-in hardware is working?
>
> This board sounds amazingly like the Gigabyte GA-K8N51GMF-9 that I bought.
> I installed NetBSD/amd64 3.0 and then upgraded to -current. Sound, network,
> and graphics didn't work. The Gigabyte board had two PCI slots as well as
> 2 PCI-Express slots. I stuck in a PCI video and network card. I now have
> Solaris 10 loaded on that machine with video and network card, as it doesn't
> grok the nforce4 peripherals either.
>
> I am now sitting in front of an ASUS A8V which has a VIA chipset, and lots of
> PCI slots. I have a Athlon 64 X2 4200+, which is running NetBSD/386 3.0.
>
> I have bought another A8V, which will be running NetBSD/amd64. And I plan to
> buy a third one, since they just work.

 	The A8V Deluxe also has another two SATA interfaces on a Promise
 	PDC20378 SATA150 controller, but I've had some issues recently
 	with interrupt timeouts on them...

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David Brownlee | 2 May 2006 12:36

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Re: Experiences with Asus A8N-VM CSM?

On Sat, 29 Apr 2006, Rick Kelly wrote:

> Gary Duzan said:
>
>>   I recall this motherboard being mentioned here before, but that
>> was before it had been evaluated. Does it work ok for i386? For
>> amd64? Which built-in hardware is working?
>
> This board sounds amazingly like the Gigabyte GA-K8N51GMF-9 that I bought.
> I installed NetBSD/amd64 3.0 and then upgraded to -current. Sound, network,
> and graphics didn't work. The Gigabyte board had two PCI slots as well as
> 2 PCI-Express slots. I stuck in a PCI video and network card. I now have
> Solaris 10 loaded on that machine with video and network card, as it doesn't
> grok the nforce4 peripherals either.
>
> I am now sitting in front of an ASUS A8V which has a VIA chipset, and lots of
> PCI slots. I have a Athlon 64 X2 4200+, which is running NetBSD/386 3.0.
>
> I have bought another A8V, which will be running NetBSD/amd64. And I plan to
> buy a third one, since they just work.

 	The A8V Deluxe also has another two SATA interfaces on a Promise
 	PDC20378 SATA150 controller, but I've had some issues recently
 	with interrupt timeouts on them...

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Anders Lindgren | 4 May 2006 23:57

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X2 motherboard selection confusion

Good $timeofday everyone.

   I recently had to return my (leased) amd64 3500+ due to switching jobs, 
so now I am about to order an Athlon64 X2 box privately instead. I've been 
trying to figure out what motherboard makes a good netbsd-friendly choice, 
and my local dealer of choice doesn't seem to have an awful lot to choose 
from.

   I am looking for a (preferrably fan-less) pcie motherboard with sata2. 
Currently, I am looking at an ASUS A8N32 SLI motherboard[0], which seems 
pretty good; fast bus, fan-less, and known to work fine at least in Linux.

   It has an nvidia nforce4 SLI X16 chipset, so I don't expect the pcie 
Gbit ethernet to work, but that's ok[1]. However, I just heard on 
#NetBSD <at> IRCNet that port-amd64 has acpi(?) irq routing problems on nforce4 
chipsets, esp. with dual cores? I've browser the port-amd64 mailing list 
archive, but I can't really tell what success I might expect with NetBSD 
and this motherboard.

Any enlightenment on the issue appreciated. :)

[0] http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=744&l1=3&l2=15&l3=0

[1] Any chance the other nforce4 Gbit ethernet interface works with
     nfe(4)?

Regards,
ali:)

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Chris Kantarjiev | 6 May 2006 03:40

Re: PCI SATA RAID controller

Brian Hechinger wrote:
> I'm looking for something that is PCI, has 4 SATA ports on it and does hardware
> RAID5.  I really want to run this in a sparc64 box, but am willing to fall back
> to an Opteron based system if I have to.
> 
> What have people tried/are using/etc?
> 
> Thanks!!
> 
> -brian

I don't see any responses - that's too bad. I don't need RAID functionality, but 
I would like a multilane SATA interface for PCI... anybody got success to report?

Thanks,
chris

Chris Kantarjiev | 6 May 2006 19:16

upgrading x64 ... and SATA

I have an quad-processor amd64 (12GB RAM) system happily running on a kernel 
that announces itself as 2.0.2_STABLE. I'd like to add a (multilane) PCI SATA 
controller to this (recommendations welcome - I don't care if it emulates an IDE 
interface, as long as it works).

The machine is very stable at what it's currently doing.

I'm concerned that I will have to upgrade the kernel to support the PCI card and 
the intended new work (mysqld), and have no idea how to do an upgrade in place.

Is there a FAQ/howto somewhere? What's the best stable kernel at the moment?

Thanks,
chris

Tonnerre LOMBARD | 7 May 2006 17:57

Massive read/write performance problems with 3.0

Salut,

It seems that disk I/O is massively slow under NetBSD 3.0 on amd64. I am
running it on a DualCore Opteron 175 machine with 2G RAM (Sun Fire X2100),
and when I e.g. dd if=/dev/zero of=/some/ffsv2/path bs=16k count=16k, the
average write speed is around 5 MB/s on a 7.2krpm SATA disk.

Is this a tuning problem or some known bug or do we have to track the
problem down? (It doesn't behave much better on 3.99.18 with the new
BUFQ stuff enabled either) It doesn't appear to be a problem of processing
power, since the processing power used is usually around 1.5% of one CPU.

				Tonnerre

Merritt Draney | 7 May 2006 20:06

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Sata troubles again

I just bought a amd64 system Asus A8N5x motherboard, Athlon 64 X2 4400, 
and Western Digital Sata 40 Gig HD.  I can get 3.0 it installed even 
though I get this error once the hard drive is mounted

viaide(2:0:0) lost interupt
type:  ata tc_bcount 16384 tc_skip: 0

Once I first boot it up it always hangs at

wd0 at atabus4 drive 0

during boot up

I have tried the acpimp and acpi kernels put up here last month also and 
they all do the same thing.  I have not seen this specific error as I 
have gone through much of this list.  Any ideas? 

Also of note the 3.0 i386 acpimp kernel on the install disk works but it 
is totally i386 once installed.  It did crash on me while building world 
though but other than that it fairly stable and quite fast running both 
cpus.  Any ideas?  I am willing to be a guinea pig though I might need 
to get a new hard drive just for testing purposes.  Thank you again.

Paul Goyette | 7 May 2006 22:08

RE: Sata troubles again

That mo-bo has ACPI problems with amd64.  It will run Ok
on i-386. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: port-amd64-owner <at> NetBSD.org 
> [mailto:port-amd64-owner <at> NetBSD.org] On Behalf Of Merritt Draney
> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:07 AM
> To: port-amd64 <at> NetBSD.org
> Subject: Sata troubles again
> 
> I just bought a amd64 system Asus A8N5x motherboard, Athlon 
> 64 X2 4400, 
> and Western Digital Sata 40 Gig HD.  I can get 3.0 it installed even 
> though I get this error once the hard drive is mounted
> 
> viaide(2:0:0) lost interupt
> type:  ata tc_bcount 16384 tc_skip: 0
> 
> Once I first boot it up it always hangs at
> 
> wd0 at atabus4 drive 0
> 
> during boot up
> 
> I have tried the acpimp and acpi kernels put up here last 
> month also and 
> they all do the same thing.  I have not seen this specific error as I 
> have gone through much of this list.  Any ideas? 
> 
> Also of note the 3.0 i386 acpimp kernel on the install disk

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Merritt Draney | 7 May 2006 22:57

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Re: Sata troubles again

Is there a list of ones that do work well?
Paul Goyette wrote:
> That mo-bo has ACPI problems with amd64.  It will run Ok
> on i-386. 
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: port-amd64-owner <at> NetBSD.org 
>> [mailto:port-amd64-owner <at> NetBSD.org] On Behalf Of Merritt Draney
>> Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 11:07 AM
>> To: port-amd64 <at> NetBSD.org
>> Subject: Sata troubles again
>>
>> I just bought a amd64 system Asus A8N5x motherboard, Athlon 
>> 64 X2 4400, 
>> and Western Digital Sata 40 Gig HD.  I can get 3.0 it installed even 
>> though I get this error once the hard drive is mounted
>>
>> viaide(2:0:0) lost interupt
>> type:  ata tc_bcount 16384 tc_skip: 0
>>
>> Once I first boot it up it always hangs at
>>
>> wd0 at atabus4 drive 0
>>
>> during boot up
>>
>> I have tried the acpimp and acpi kernels put up here last 
>> month also and 
>> they all do the same thing.  I have not seen this specific error as I

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Manuel Bouyer | 8 May 2006 00:15

Re: Massive read/write performance problems with 3.0

On Sun, May 07, 2006 at 05:57:43PM +0200, Tonnerre LOMBARD wrote:
> Salut,
> 
> It seems that disk I/O is massively slow under NetBSD 3.0 on amd64. I am
> running it on a DualCore Opteron 175 machine with 2G RAM (Sun Fire X2100),
> and when I e.g. dd if=/dev/zero of=/some/ffsv2/path bs=16k count=16k, the
> average write speed is around 5 MB/s on a 7.2krpm SATA disk.
> 
> Is this a tuning problem or some known bug or do we have to track the
> problem down? (It doesn't behave much better on 3.99.18 with the new
> BUFQ stuff enabled either) It doesn't appear to be a problem of processing
> power, since the processing power used is usually around 1.5% of one CPU.

What is your disk system ? Maybe your SATA controller isn't properly
supported.
Also, you may have better speed using 64k blocks with dd

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