So what's the condition of the port? Also, where can one now get real hardware? -- -- Perry E. Metzger perry <at> piermont.com
On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 11:07:59AM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > > So what's the condition of the port? Also, where can one now get real > hardware? http://www.racksaver.com/ http://www.einux.com/ http://www.atipa.com/amd_opteron_preorder.html http://colfax-intl.com/lph/?RID=71 http://www.boxxtech.com/Asp/opteron.asp -- -- -- David (obrien <at> NUXI.com)
On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 11:07:59AM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > > So what's the condition of the port? Also, where can one now get real > hardware? I'm working out some issues with regard to high-end machines, but once that gets going, I'll produce an ISO image as a snapshot. I hope that this will be later this week. Also, I'll probably rename the port, since the official name is now 'amd64'. But it's too late to change MACHINE_ARCH.. - Frank -- -- Frank van der Linden fvdl <at> netbsd.org =============================================================================== NetBSD. Free, Unix-like OS. > 45 different platforms. http://www.netbsd.org/
perry <at> piermont.com (Perry E. Metzger) writes: > Also, where can one now get real hardware? The only retail motherboard that shows up on AMD's site as "AMD Approved" is the MSI K8D. http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/server/svr/pro_svr_detail.php?UID=441&MODEL=MS-9131 Someone else found a priceline hit for this at $482. (Thats without the opterons or dram.) While that price is better than a $10k newisys box, it is still not going to be cheap once one adds 2 opterons and dram. -wolfgang
On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:12:57PM -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > Someone else found a priceline hit for this at $482. (Thats without > the opterons or dram.) While that price is better than a $10k newisys > box, it is still not going to be cheap once one adds 2 opterons and > dram. I priced a two processor (model 242) 8GB RAM box at http://www.penguincomputing.com/store/altus-1000E.php for $5891.00. Lowest I could go is $2461.00. Not bad for an early adopter situation. -- -- -- David (obrien <at> NUXI.com)
On Wed, Apr 23, 2003 at 10:12:57PM -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: > perry <at> piermont.com (Perry E. Metzger) writes: > > Also, where can one now get real hardware? > > The only retail motherboard that shows up on AMD's site as "AMD > Approved" is the MSI K8D. > > http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/server/svr/pro_svr_detail.php?UID=441&MODEL=MS-9131 > > Someone else found a priceline hit for this at $482. (Thats without > the opterons or dram.) While that price is better than a $10k newisys > box, it is still not going to be cheap once one adds 2 opterons and > dram. I have queried a few vendors, and I got quotes around $2400 for a 2P-2G-2U-2GigE box. From my calculations, once the motherboards are actually available, it should be possible to build a whitebox system for about $1900. (Dual Opteron 240, 2GB ECC RAM, dual GigE, 80GB disk, in a standard minitower ATX case.) The MSI K8D is coming in around $500, and the Opteron 240 around $300. -andy
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 01:13:04AM +0200, Frank van der Linden wrote: > Since the port has been renamed to NetBSD/amd64, ... May I ask why? I know that Microsoft calls its Windows version like that but that doesn't seem like a good reason. Kind regards -- -- Matthias Scheler http://scheler.de/~matthias/
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 09:52:46AM +0200, Matthias Scheler wrote: > May I ask why? I know that Microsoft calls its Windows version like that > but that doesn't seem like a good reason. I don't know about Microsoft; I just know that AMD has given the processor family this name at the launch. The name x86-64 is no more. - Frank -- -- Frank van der Linden fvdl <at> netbsd.org =============================================================================== NetBSD. Free, Unix-like OS. > 45 different platforms. http://www.netbsd.org/
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 11:22:59AM +0200, Frank van der Linden wrote: > I just know that AMD has given the processor family this name at the launch. I see. > The name x86-64 is no more. I thought it would have been the name of the instruction set anyway. I just wonder what happens if Intel release Pentiums with x86_64 instructions - I'm quite sure that they'll do that as soon as AMD gains some marketshare with the Opterons. Will we rename the port again? Kind regards -- -- Matthias Scheler http://scheler.de/~matthias/
On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 11:48:55AM +0200, Matthias Scheler wrote: > I thought it would have been the name of the instruction set anyway. > I just wonder what happens if Intel release Pentiums with x86_64 > instructions - I'm quite sure that they'll do that as soon as > AMD gains some marketshare with the Opterons. Will we rename the > port again? This might happen, sure.. why do you think AMD is so eager to have their name embedded in the processor name. The port will not be renamed if this happens. - Frank -- -- Frank van der Linden fvdl <at> netbsd.org =============================================================================== NetBSD. Free, Unix-like OS. > 45 different platforms. http://www.netbsd.org/
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