emanuel stiebler | 2 Feb 23:44 2005

tz30 on vax 4000/90

Hi,

anybody out here uses a TZ30 on a Vaxstation 4000/90 ?
With success ?
I get:

!TC on DAta XFER {intr 10,stat 83, step 4] prevphase 1, resid c

all the times.

Do we have problems with the TZ30 in NetBSD 2.0 again ?
Or did I just get a bad drive ?

Cheers & thanks

Blaz Antonic | 9 Feb 19:11 2005
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Re: NetBSD/vax 2.0 X woes

Hello,

A follow-up on my X problems with NetBSD/vax 2.0: i finally got around
to shuffling the hardware around a bit so my Vaxstation ended up with
both HDs i bought recently. The old one contained functional 1.6(.1)
setup that worked just fine with xdm so i copied configuration files
over (entire /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm directory). Voila, at least i got
xdm login from Vax now. Based on differences [actually the lack thereof]
between xdm-config and Xaccess files in both setups my conclusion is
that significantly changed Xresources is probably the culprit.

Anyway, now that i got past this problem i figured i can finally get a
window manager running. Twm works ... to an extent. 

http://tinypic.com/view.html?pic=1oqdtt

This is xterm started via twm menu and xboard started from said xterm,
after 1 minute or so of waiting - plenty of time to come up with
something but nothing did. Ditto for xbomb (window comes up with few
idgets but they are all blank). Xclock -digital shows blank rectangle
while analog clock works. Icewm still dosn't seem to work (it changes
mouse cursor and background and nothing ever shows up, no menu, no
taskbar, no nothing).

Just to make sure my X server wasn't the culprit i startex xdm on a
Linux box (with fvwm) and started xboard there:

http://tinypic.com/view.html?pic=1oqdxj

Worked like a charm. Methinks there is something messed up really bad
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Gregg C Levine | 23 Feb 17:42 2005
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Does anyone have the specs for wiring DEC MMJs

Hello from Gregg C Levine
As of two days ago, I now have here a VAX Station 3100 Model 76. It
looks like the one that Chuck McManis has photos of, on his website,
but is definitely different in that mine will be run using a serial
console as opposed to wearing a monitor and keyboard. I'll probably
pull the frame buffer out of the unit.

That being stated, I was able to identify the ports on the machine's
back, and naturally the serial port is a DEC MMJ. Now the question:
Does anyone have the specifications for wiring a DEC MMJ? I have a
computer who's wearing the usual serial port on his back, and I need
to create a cable that's got an RS232 connector on one end and a DEC
MMJ on the other. Incidentally the computer who will be posing as the
console will be a Compaq Portable III.
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Jan-Benedict Glaw | 23 Feb 17:47 2005
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Re: Does anyone have the specs for wiring DEC MMJs

On Wed, 2005-02-23 11:42:11 -0500, Gregg C Levine <hansolofalcon <at> worldnet.att.net>
wrote in message <002601c519c6$a3028ec0$6401a8c0 <at> who5>:
> As of two days ago, I now have here a VAX Station 3100 Model 76. It

Nice. (Um, I don't type in the sentence I was about to hack in right
here, right now :-)

> That being stated, I was able to identify the ports on the machine's
> back, and naturally the serial port is a DEC MMJ. Now the question:
> Does anyone have the specifications for wiring a DEC MMJ? I have a
> computer who's wearing the usual serial port on his back, and I need
> to create a cable that's got an RS232 connector on one end and a DEC
> MMJ on the other. Incidentally the computer who will be posing as the
> console will be a Compaq Portable III.

I've got a sheet of paper at home, if nobody else sends the wiring
diagram, you'll get it from me in about 45min.

MfG, JBG

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Johnny Billquist | 23 Feb 17:49 2005
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Re: Does anyone have the specs for wiring DEC MMJs

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Gregg C Levine wrote:

> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> As of two days ago, I now have here a VAX Station 3100 Model 76. It
> looks like the one that Chuck McManis has photos of, on his website,
> but is definitely different in that mine will be run using a serial
> console as opposed to wearing a monitor and keyboard. I'll probably
> pull the frame buffer out of the unit.
>
> That being stated, I was able to identify the ports on the machine's
> back, and naturally the serial port is a DEC MMJ. Now the question:
> Does anyone have the specifications for wiring a DEC MMJ? I have a
> computer who's wearing the usual serial port on his back, and I need
> to create a cable that's got an RS232 connector on one end and a DEC
> MMJ on the other. Incidentally the computer who will be posing as the
> console will be a Compaq Portable III.

Very quick googling gave this:

http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/cable/dec-mmj.html

 	Johnny

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Jan-Benedict Glaw | 23 Feb 18:56 2005
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Re: Does anyone have the specs for wiring DEC MMJs

On Wed, 2005-02-23 17:49:22 +0100, Johnny Billquist <bqt <at> Update.UU.SE>
wrote in message <Pine.LNX.4.62.0502231749030.28088 <at> Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE>:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> >That being stated, I was able to identify the ports on the machine's
> >back, and naturally the serial port is a DEC MMJ. Now the question:
> >Does anyone have the specifications for wiring a DEC MMJ? I have a
> >computer who's wearing the usual serial port on his back, and I need
> >to create a cable that's got an RS232 connector on one end and a DEC
> >MMJ on the other. Incidentally the computer who will be posing as the
> >console will be a Compaq Portable III.
> 
> Very quick googling gave this:
> 
> http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/cable/dec-mmj.html

So basically http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/cable/dec-mmj.html#h71j is
what Gregg is looking for (or the next one, depending on DE-9 or DB25).
As a side note, I disagree with the how the socket is drawn (though, the
numbering is the same compared to what I found in my papers).

If you hold the plug (with cable) in your hands, right in front of you,
put the cable down, the contacts away from you, so that you're looking
at the "nose", which should now be at the left side. With this view, the
pins are numbered 1 to 6 from left to right.

MfG, JBG

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Gregg C Levine | 24 Feb 19:02 2005
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Next step: Now I need some DEC MMJ patch cords, plus misc. hardware

Hello from Gregg C Levine
Thanks for helping me find that information regarding how to wire an
adapter for a DEC MMJ cord set to RS232 connectors. Now I need to find
a place that sells DEC MMJ patch cords at reasonable prices in the US,
preferably in the NYC area. Also the connector that they plug into.

The wiring guide that website produced talked about only how to wire a
DEC MMJ socket to a DB9 or DB25 connector, not my problem, wiring a
plug to those connectors.

The funny thing is that a Leviton guide that I have here that
discusses practically everything telecom also mentions how the DEC MMJ
connectors are wired. Doesn't give the pin names, just how the things
are wired.
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"Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi

9000 VAX | 24 Feb 19:36 2005
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Re: Next step: Now I need some DEC MMJ patch cords, plus misc. hardware

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:02:21 -0500, Gregg C Levine
<hansolofalcon <at> worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> Thanks for helping me find that information regarding how to wire an
> adapter for a DEC MMJ cord set to RS232 connectors. Now I need to find
> a place that sells DEC MMJ patch cords at reasonable prices in the US,
> preferably in the NYC area. Also the connector that they plug into.

Get a telephone plug with all 6 pins. remove the plastic lock in the
middle and you are done.

vax, 9000

> 
> The wiring guide that website produced talked about only how to wire a
> DEC MMJ socket to a DB9 or DB25 connector, not my problem, wiring a
> plug to those connectors.
> 
> The funny thing is that a Leviton guide that I have here that
> discusses practically everything telecom also mentions how the DEC MMJ
> connectors are wired. Doesn't give the pin names, just how the things
> are wired.
> -------------------
> Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon <at> worldnet.att.net
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
> 
>

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Dave McGuire | 24 Feb 19:40 2005

Re: Next step: Now I need some DEC MMJ patch cords, plus misc. hardware

On Feb 24, 2005, at 1:02 PM, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> Thanks for helping me find that information regarding how to wire an
> adapter for a DEC MMJ cord set to RS232 connectors. Now I need to find
> a place that sells DEC MMJ patch cords at reasonable prices in the US,
> preferably in the NYC area. Also the connector that they plug into.

   This may or may not be helpful, but Mouser Electronics stocks the MMJ 
connectors themselves.  I finally got sick of scrounging for MMJs and 
bought an MMJ die for my AMP crimp tool several years ago.  6-conductor 
silver satin cable is easy to come by, and Mouser stocks the 
connectors, no problem. :-)

           -Dave

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