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Louis Wevers | 5 Nov 2007 19:39
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Booting a 5000/240 from CD

Hi,

Perhaps a bit stupid question, but I can't seem to figure it out. I try 
to boot my 5000/240 from a freshly created CD (created from the ISO 
image available from the NetBSD site).

I tried something like: "boot 3/rz0" and "boot 3/rz0/netbsd"

Unfortunately it only comes back to me with something like: "?IO: 3/rz0 
       (cmd: rd)"

When I boot the installed 1.6 on the machine, I can read the CD 
properly. file structure looks normal etc.

Any ideas on how to boot the machine from CD?

Many thanks in advance,
Louis
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Henry Bent | 5 Nov 2007 19:55
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Re: Booting a 5000/240 from CD

On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Louis Wevers wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Perhaps a bit stupid question, but I can't seem to figure it out. I try
> to boot my 5000/240 from a freshly created CD (created from the ISO
> image available from the NetBSD site).
>
> I tried something like: "boot 3/rz0" and "boot 3/rz0/netbsd"
>
> Unfortunately it only comes back to me with something like: "?IO: 3/rz0
>        (cmd: rd)"
>
> When I boot the installed 1.6 on the machine, I can read the CD
> properly. file structure looks normal etc.
>
> Any ideas on how to boot the machine from CD?
>
> Many thanks in advance,
> Louis
>

Hi Louis,

You need a CD-ROM drive that can do 512 byte hardware sectors if you want
to boot from it.  There's a list of them at
http://home.comcast.net/~safeharborbay/c128/scsi/suncds.html but I have
no affiliation with that site and can't guarantee anything.  I personally
have used RRD42s and various Toshiba models in the past.
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Louis Wevers | 6 Nov 2007 20:29
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Re: Booting a 5000/240 from CD

Hi Henry,

Thanks, that explains it. It appears that my CD-Rom is unable to read
the 512 byte hardware sectors. I'll dig up a disk somewhere and try
putting the image on there.

Louis

Henry Bent wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Nov 2007, Louis Wevers wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> Perhaps a bit stupid question, but I can't seem to figure it out. I try
>> to boot my 5000/240 from a freshly created CD (created from the ISO
>> image available from the NetBSD site).
>>
>> I tried something like: "boot 3/rz0" and "boot 3/rz0/netbsd"
>>
>> Unfortunately it only comes back to me with something like: "?IO: 3/rz0
>>        (cmd: rd)"
>>
>> When I boot the installed 1.6 on the machine, I can read the CD
>> properly. file structure looks normal etc.
>>
>> Any ideas on how to boot the machine from CD?
>>
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Louis
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Louis Wevers | 7 Nov 2007 20:45
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Re: Booting a 5000/240 from CD

Hi,

Ok, I've gotten to the part of trying to write the image to a spare 
drive. First I emptied the whole disk and created a partion on it using 
disklabel and formatted it using newfs. The output of "dislabel -r sd5" 
looks like this:

# disklabel -r sd5

# /dev/rsd5c:
type: SCSI
disk: RZ58     (C) DE
label: NetBSD
flags:
bytes/sector: 512
sectors/track: 85
tracks/cylinder: 15
sectors/cylinder: 1275
cylinders: 2112
total sectors: 2698061
rpm: 3600
interleave: 1
trackskew: 0
cylinderskew: 0
headswitch: 0           # microseconds
track-to-track seek: 0  # microseconds
drivedata: 0

5 partitions:
#        size    offset     fstype  [fsize bsize cpg/sgs]
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Anders Hogrelius | 7 Nov 2007 21:40
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Re: Booting a 5000/240 from CD


I believe the problem is that you have a valid disklabel when you try to 
write the image to the disk. I've come across this problem before, though 
on other platforms running *BSD. Try to wipe the disklabel by writing 
zeros to /dev/rsdXc, reboot and then try to write the image to /dev/rsdXc

It is important that you write the image to the raw device, thus rsd 
rather than sd. Also, slice c is the whole disk on most platforms with 
i386 being one exception. The c (or d on i386) slice is automatically 
assumed to be the whole disk by the kernel even if there isn't a valid 
disklabel present.

Cheers,
Anders

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On Wed, 7 Nov 2007, Louis Wevers wrote:

> Hi,
>
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Louis Wevers | 9 Nov 2007 09:24
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Re: Booting a 5000/240 from CD

Hi Anders,

Thanks. I've tried as you said and now the installation system boots
fine from the HDD.

Louis.

Anders Hogrelius wrote:
>
> I believe the problem is that you have a valid disklabel when you try
> to write the image to the disk. I've come across this problem before,
> though on other platforms running *BSD. Try to wipe the disklabel by
> writing zeros to /dev/rsdXc, reboot and then try to write the image to
> /dev/rsdXc
>
> It is important that you write the image to the raw device, thus rsd
> rather than sd. Also, slice c is the whole disk on most platforms with
> i386 being one exception. The c (or d on i386) slice is automatically
> assumed to be the whole disk by the kernel even if there isn't a valid
> disklabel present.
>
> Cheers,
> Anders
>
> ****************************************************
> Anders Hogrelius, MSc
> Senior Exploration Geologist
> TM Resources AB (Tumi Resources ltd)
> Dr Christinas väg 13
> SE-733 36 Sala
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Kirk Russell | 12 Nov 2007 15:57

DECstation gear available in Ottawa

Hello,

Free DECstation gear available for pick-up in Ottawa.  Will consider
shipping if you are willing to pay packaging and shipping costs.

I need to get this stuff out of my basement.

DECstation 3100, monitor w. cable, keyboard, mouse, SCSI
cable, owner's manual, ULTRIX CDROMs.

There will be more gear available.  I will update this webpage as
I sort out the gear -- http://www.ba23.org/page0290.html

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Bridlewood Software Testers Guild                 Ottawa Ontario Canada
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Daniel Senderowicz | 14 Nov 2007 17:10

Re: DEC equipment give away

Hi folks,

This is the last notice for getting a bunch of good looking
(and running) DEC equipment for free. Otherwise they'll go to
the dumpster.

Daniel

>Hi folks,
>
>I have a bunch of DEC equipment to give away: cpu's, monitors,
>tape drives, etc. I'm in Berkeley, so it will MUCH better if the
>person(s) is/are in the vicinity.
>
>Daniel
>
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Aaron J. Grier | 27 Nov 2007 01:59

Re: Resolved(?): no support for DECstation 3100 in 3.1 kernel?

On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 10:56:29AM +0100, David Brownlee wrote:
> Most people with pmaxen tend to have them sitting away somewhere just
> running :)

my 5000/240 runs 1.4.3A and has for the last six+ years.  I have
migrated almost all services off of it, but with uptime runs of 200+
days, I often forget about it.

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  Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agrier <at> poofygoof.com
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Scott Walters | 28 Nov 2007 00:55
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Re: DEC equipment give away

Myself a bunch of others were mailing you.  Check your spam
filtering.  Grr.  Stupid Internet.

-scott

On  0, Daniel Senderowicz <daniel <at> bicho.SynchroDesign.COM> wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> This is the last notice for getting a bunch of good looking
> (and running) DEC equipment for free. Otherwise they'll go to
> the dumpster.
> 
> Daniel
> 
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >I have a bunch of DEC equipment to give away: cpu's, monitors,
> >tape drives, etc. I'm in Berkeley, so it will MUCH better if the
> >person(s) is/are in the vicinity.
> >
> >Daniel
> >
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