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Markus W Kilbinger | 2 Jun 2006 16:15
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Re: Heads Up: Migration to gcc4

>>>>> "Allen" == Allen Briggs <briggs <at> netbsd.org> writes:

    Allen> [...]
    Allen> I encourage you, current-users, to give it a workout sooner
    Allen> rather than later so we can catch any issues as early as
    Allen> possible.

I've tried gcc4 for cobalt/mipsel (cross compiled on i386):

- ./build ... distribution failed in/with:

  #     build  libgcc_s/libgcc_s.so.1.0
  rm -f libgcc_s.so.1.0
  /usr/toolchain-mipsel/bin/mipsel--netbsd-gcc -Wl,-nostdlib -B/usr/cobalt-dest/usr/lib/
-B/usr/cobalt-dest/usr/lib/   -Wl,-rpath-link,/usr/cobalt-dest/lib:/usr/cobalt-dest/usr/lib 
-L/usr/cobalt-dest/lib  -Wl,-x -shared -Wl,-soname,libgcc_s.so.1  -nodefaultlibs
-Wl,--version-script=/usr/src/gnu/lib/libgcc4/libgcc_s/obj.cobalt/libgcc.map  -o
libgcc_s.so.1.0  -Wl,--whole-archive libgcc_s.a  -Wl,--no-whole-archive   -L/usr/cobalt-dest/usr/lib
  /usr/toolchain-mipsel/lib/gcc/mipsel--netbsd/4.1.1/../../../../mipsel--netbsd/bin/ld:
/usr/cobalt-dest/usr/lib/crti.o: CALL16 reloc at 0xc not against global symbol
  /usr/cobalt-dest/usr/lib/crti.o: could not read symbols: Bad value
  collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

  *** Failed target:  libgcc_s.so.1.0

- Building a cobalt kernel fails with:

  cat ../../../../arch/mips/mips/genassym.cf  |  /usr/toolchain-mipsel/bin/nbgenassym --
/usr/toolchain-mipsel/bin/mipsel--netbsd-gcc  -G 0 -mno-abicalls -msoft-float -ffreestanding  
-pipe -O2 -mips2 -mtune=vr5000 -Werror -Wall -Wno-main -Wno-format-zero-length -Wpointer-arith
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Garrett D'Amore | 3 Jun 2006 06:28

looking for mips64 h/w

Our SoC student working the MIPS64 port has had trouble locating 64-bit
compliant hardware.

Can anyone help out here?  A malta or similar would probably be ideal,
but an older SGI would probably work too.  In an ideal world, I'd also
get a loan, as mentor, as I only have 32-bit MIPS h/w.  But I can
probably get by with qemu for now.  Anyway, the loan of a machine or two
for a couple of months (for the Summer Of Code duration) would be
greatly appreciated.

For now our student is going to be working on qemu, until he gets
hardware.  (One advantage of someone sending us hardware is that it is
most likely that it will be *that* particular 64-bit platform that gets
supported best/first. :-)

Thanks!

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Thomas E. Spanjaard | 3 Jun 2006 14:45

Re: looking for mips64 h/w

Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> Our SoC student working the MIPS64 port has had trouble locating 64-bit
> compliant hardware.
[...]
> For now our student is going to be working on qemu, until he gets
> hardware.  (One advantage of someone sending us hardware is that it is
> most likely that it will be *that* particular 64-bit platform that gets
> supported best/first. :-)

I believe Jan Schaumann has/had an IP30 machine available for the 
IP30/IP27 port, and I at least would be pleased if these two projects 
were combined. It does pose additional work though. Also, depending on 
the location of the student I could offer my Indigo2.

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Jan Schaumann | 3 Jun 2006 16:52
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Re: looking for mips64 h/w

"Thomas E. Spanjaard" <tgen <at> netphreax.net> wrote:

> I believe Jan Schaumann has/had an IP30 machine available for the 
> IP30/IP27 port, and I at least would be pleased if these two projects 
> were combined. It does pose additional work though. Also, depending on 
> the location of the student I could offer my Indigo2.

Correct, I have an SGI Octane sitting around unused in Hoboken, NJ,
waiting to be picked up and NetBSDified.  Unfortunately, it's rather
heavy, so shipping is not really an option...

-Jan

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Garrett D'Amore | 3 Jun 2006 18:24

Re: looking for mips64 h/w

Jan Schaumann wrote:
> "Thomas E. Spanjaard" <tgen <at> netphreax.net> wrote:
>  
>   
>> I believe Jan Schaumann has/had an IP30 machine available for the 
>> IP30/IP27 port, and I at least would be pleased if these two projects 
>> were combined. It does pose additional work though. Also, depending on 
>> the location of the student I could offer my Indigo2.
>>     
>
> Correct, I have an SGI Octane sitting around unused in Hoboken, NJ,
> waiting to be picked up and NetBSDified.  Unfortunately, it's rather
> heavy, so shipping is not really an option...
>
> -Jan
>
>   

I'm in southern California, so I can't easily pick it up.  I don't know
the SoC student's location yet, but I have asked him.

    -- Garrett

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Gerald Heinig | 3 Jun 2006 16:06
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Re: looking for mips64 h/w

Hi all,

Jan Schaumann wrote:
> "Thomas E. Spanjaard" <tgen <at> netphreax.net> wrote:
>  
> 
>>I believe Jan Schaumann has/had an IP30 machine available for the 
>>IP30/IP27 port, and I at least would be pleased if these two projects 
>>were combined. It does pose additional work though. Also, depending on 
>>the location of the student I could offer my Indigo2.
> 
> 
> Correct, I have an SGI Octane sitting around unused in Hoboken, NJ,
> waiting to be picked up and NetBSDified.  Unfortunately, it's rather
> heavy, so shipping is not really an option...

Just to throw my Eur. 0.02 into the discussion: I have a dual-CPU Octane 
  sitting here unused for at least 2 years (due to ENOTIME) which I'm 
planning to sell in the near future. It's equipped with a PCI cardcage, 
too, so supporting PCI hardware is no problem either.
I'm located just outside Karlsruhe, Germany.
If anyone's interested in borrowing or buying the machine for a porting 
effort, let me know.

Cheers,
Gerald
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Garrett D'Amore | 3 Jun 2006 18:32

Re: looking for mips64 h/w

Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> Jan Schaumann wrote:
>   
>> "Thomas E. Spanjaard" <tgen <at> netphreax.net> wrote:
>>  
>>   
>>     
>>> I believe Jan Schaumann has/had an IP30 machine available for the 
>>> IP30/IP27 port, and I at least would be pleased if these two projects 
>>> were combined. It does pose additional work though. Also, depending on 
>>> the location of the student I could offer my Indigo2.
>>>     
>>>       
>> Correct, I have an SGI Octane sitting around unused in Hoboken, NJ,
>> waiting to be picked up and NetBSDified.  Unfortunately, it's rather
>> heavy, so shipping is not really an option...
>>
>> -Jan
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> I'm in southern California, so I can't easily pick it up.  I don't know
> the SoC student's location yet, but I have asked him.
>   

Answer: Beijing, China.  I guess this makes a pickup in Hoboken NJ out
of the question. :-)

Thanks anyway.   In the meantime, if anyone else can help out, please
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Jonathan A. Kollasch | 3 Jun 2006 21:21
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Re: looking for mips64 h/w

On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 09:28:44PM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
> Our SoC student working the MIPS64 port has had trouble locating 64-bit
> compliant hardware.
> 
> Can anyone help out here?  A malta or similar would probably be ideal,
> but an older SGI would probably work too.  In an ideal world, I'd also
> get a loan, as mentor, as I only have 32-bit MIPS h/w.  But I can
> probably get by with qemu for now.  Anyway, the loan of a machine or two
> for a couple of months (for the Summer Of Code duration) would be
> greatly appreciated.

I, like Jan Schaumann, have an Octane available, but in Iowa.
However, I can't really afford to ship it, let alone to China.

But, if I can be of any help testing stuff I'd try to do what I can.

And yes, (at least this one anyway) SGI boxes can do serial console.

Also, I may be able to get a console server, netboot file
selection thing and power cycler setup if it would be useful.

	Jonathan Kollasch
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Garrett D'Amore | 3 Jun 2006 21:26

Re: looking for mips64 h/w

Jonathan A. Kollasch wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 09:28:44PM -0700, Garrett D'Amore wrote:
>   
>> Our SoC student working the MIPS64 port has had trouble locating 64-bit
>> compliant hardware.
>>
>> Can anyone help out here?  A malta or similar would probably be ideal,
>> but an older SGI would probably work too.  In an ideal world, I'd also
>> get a loan, as mentor, as I only have 32-bit MIPS h/w.  But I can
>> probably get by with qemu for now.  Anyway, the loan of a machine or two
>> for a couple of months (for the Summer Of Code duration) would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>     
>
> I, like Jan Schaumann, have an Octane available, but in Iowa.
> However, I can't really afford to ship it, let alone to China.
>   

Hah.  I guess these are pretty heavy boxes. ;-)

> But, if I can be of any help testing stuff I'd try to do what I can.
>
> And yes, (at least this one anyway) SGI boxes can do serial console.
>
> Also, I may be able to get a console server, netboot file
> selection thing and power cycler setup if it would be useful.
>   

Those would be really, really useful.  Either LIU Qi (Qi is his given
name) or I will get back to you.
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Volkmar Seifert | 3 Jun 2006 19:11
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Re: looking for mips64 h/w

Hello all,

> Jan, I don't know enough about SGIs, but can they be setup with a serial
> console so that some of this testing might be done remotely?  Its not as
> nice as having hardware on site, but would at least be a step in the
> right direction.

Yes, in fact, they usually can be used via serial console. It's quite
easy if you have the right cables, I just installed a NetBSD this way on
my own Indigo 2.

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