Juliusz Chroboczek | 1 Jun 2005 22:01
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Re: How to differentiate a full 68040 from an LC one?

If the machine can boot MacOS, try running SoftwareFPU.  It will tell
you what kind of CPU you have.

                                        Juliusz

gj | 2 Jun 2005 08:22
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Micron Xceed Grayscale in an SE/30?

Hi,

It is not clear to me from searching through the archives or
the mac68k hardware page at the NetBSD site whether or not
this antique video card (which allows the SE/30 to display
grays as opposed to solely black and white) is supported by
NetBSD.  OTOH, the Xceed *color* cards certainly is. 

Does anyone know for certain whether this card works with
NetBSD?

Thanks,
G.

Hauke Fath | 2 Jun 2005 20:11
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Re: Micron Xceed Grayscale in an SE/30?

At 6:22 Uhr +0000 2.6.2005, gj <at> FREESHELL.ORG wrote:
>It is not clear to me from searching through the archives or
>the mac68k hardware page at the NetBSD site whether or not
>this antique video card (which allows the SE/30 to display
>grays

On an external or the internal monitor? Please post the exact ID string of
the card.

>as opposed to solely black and white) is supported by
>NetBSD.  OTOH, the Xceed *color* cards certainly is.
>
>Does anyone know for certain whether this card works with
>NetBSD?

I just gave away my crystal ball for polishing...

Well, since you seem to own the card, why don't you download the NetBSD
booter and an install kernel, boot NetBSD, and tell *us*? Or am I missing
anything important?

	hauke

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Robert Swindells | 7 Jun 2005 11:46
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-Wcast-qual


I have put some patches to fix compilation with -Wcast-qual defined along
with GENERIC and GENERICSBC kernels into:

ftp.netbsd.org:/pub/NetBSD/arch/mac68k/test/20050607

It would be helpful if people could try them out on machines other than
a Q950.

Robert Swindells

Conrad Rehill | 15 Jun 2005 16:52

Pth implementation

Hi Everyone.

Does anyone have any experience with using Pth to build an application 
originally written using pthreads ?

Specifically, I have an application which compiles and works well when 
built against libpthread on a linux system.  The code compiles with no 
problem using the Pth pthreads compatibility flags on my 68040 Mac, but at 
runtime I get an error:

**Pth** scheduler internal error: no more threads available to schedule

It seems to choke at a 'pthread_create()' call in my code.

I'm using a 1.5.3 kernel.

Any help is much appreciated !

Thanks,
Conrad

Magnus Henoch | 15 Jun 2005 23:03
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Re: Pth implementation

Conrad Rehill <conrad <at> rehill.org> writes:

> Hi Everyone.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with using Pth to build an application 
> originally written using pthreads ?
>
> Specifically, I have an application which compiles and works well when 
> built against libpthread on a linux system.  The code compiles with no 
> problem using the Pth pthreads compatibility flags on my 68040 Mac, but at 
> runtime I get an error:
>
> **Pth** scheduler internal error: no more threads available to schedule
>
> It seems to choke at a 'pthread_create()' call in my code.

Here comes a wild guess.  The pthread emulation of Pth is
non-preemptive, unlike most other pthread implementations, which means
that the code must explicitly yield control to other threads.  Thus,
it's possible that many threads have been created, but haven't had
much of a chance to run, as other threads are running.  This would
lead to threads being created faster than they can finish their task.

So try to sprinkle pth_yield calls around the code, and see if that
helps.

Magnus

Riccardo Mottola | 17 Jun 2005 13:14
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netbsd-3 snapshot: big problems

Hey,

since I failed to get a usable box ith the netbsd 2.0.2 release I 
thought that trying the current netbsd-3 snapshot could do no damage.

But it is really in bad, bad shape.

My box is a a MacIIci, 72MBytes of ram and a 2Gb disk. I installed 
directly there instead than on my test disk...

I got the snapshot from netbsd-daily, netbsd-3

1. the sysint procedure is still broken with regard to newfs and mount 
to /targetroot. I used the usual trick

2. the kernel seems to have problems, if the sysinst wasn't successful 
or got restarted for some reason, it would kill itself giving usually no 
space left on disk message and a reboot from shell causes a kernel 
panic. Sysinst has to go in one single step, restarting from the 
beginning for any reason will cause deep trouble. I assume kernel 
problems.

3. most of the packages didn't even uncompress properly! sometimes pax 
returns a "killed by signal" but most often the console gets swamped 
with tar and checksum errors. this with various of the .tgz (man, etc, X 
packages, comp...). I didn't delete the packages.

I ignored the errors, had it continue so that it built devices and I 
could reboot, indeed the system reboots! Miracle! But X11 will fail for 
example due to broken library symbols (I guess indeed that the tars 
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Christos Zoulas | 17 Jun 2005 21:01

Re: netbsd-3 snapshot: big problems

In article <FA654396-DF20-11D9-90E9-000502EE4B47 <at> libero.it>,
Riccardo Mottola  <zuse <at> libero.it> wrote:

I have a centris lying somewhere and I will try it myself...

christos

>Hey,
>
>since I failed to get a usable box ith the netbsd 2.0.2 release I 
>thought that trying the current netbsd-3 snapshot could do no damage.
>
>But it is really in bad, bad shape.
>
>My box is a a MacIIci, 72MBytes of ram and a 2Gb disk. I installed 
>directly there instead than on my test disk...
>
>I got the snapshot from netbsd-daily, netbsd-3
>
>1. the sysint procedure is still broken with regard to newfs and mount 
>to /targetroot. I used the usual trick
>
>2. the kernel seems to have problems, if the sysinst wasn't successful 
>or got restarted for some reason, it would kill itself giving usually no 
>space left on disk message and a reboot from shell causes a kernel 
>panic. Sysinst has to go in one single step, restarting from the 
>beginning for any reason will cause deep trouble. I assume kernel 
>problems.
>
>3. most of the packages didn't even uncompress properly! sometimes pax 
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Riccardo Mottola | 21 Jun 2005 23:13
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netbsd2-netbsd3 problems on IIci

Hey,

I decided not to give up... on my IIci. I already told the story of 
installing netbsd-3-0 snapshot and how unreliable just the untarring 
was. The resulting OS was unusable with about everything segfaulting, 
including fsck!

I thus decided to grab the netbsd-2-0 snaphsot, latest one 15 June, IIRC 
and just untar the .tgz on my broken installation. I kept the 3-series 
kernel though. The computer works much, much better! the tarballs 
untarred! I can now launch X! login with telnet and overall I didn't get 
many problems. CVS doesn't work reliably though. I can't checkout a CVS 
repository using ssh from savannah.org.

I untarred pkgsrc.tar.gz (from current). I noticed something went wrong. 
I tried updating from CVS  but it aborts... by untarring the package 
again I am notified of checksum problems...

Somehow netbsd is having serious problem in the 68k platform! I don't 
know if there will be a 2.0.3 or a 2.1 release, but action is needed and 
the upcoming 3 is even worse.

-R

setient | 21 Jun 2005 23:31

Re: netbsd2-netbsd3 problems on IIci

does your 68k have a fpu?? i had alot of issues on a lc III with things 
like that until i tried the softfloat binaries!.  you should try them. 
ftp://ftp.sixgirls.org/.  they are in there somewhere
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, 
Riccardo Mottola wrote:

> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 23:13:28 +0200
> From: Riccardo Mottola <zuse <at> libero.it>
> To: port-mac68k <at> netbsd.org
> Subject: netbsd2-netbsd3 problems on IIci
> 
> Hey,
>
> I decided not to give up... on my IIci. I already told the story of 
> installing netbsd-3-0 snapshot and how unreliable just the untarring was. The 
> resulting OS was unusable with about everything segfaulting, including fsck!
>
> I thus decided to grab the netbsd-2-0 snaphsot, latest one 15 June, IIRC and 
> just untar the .tgz on my broken installation. I kept the 3-series kernel 
> though. The computer works much, much better! the tarballs untarred! I can 
> now launch X! login with telnet and overall I didn't get many problems. CVS 
> doesn't work reliably though. I can't checkout a CVS repository using ssh 
> from savannah.org.
>
> I untarred pkgsrc.tar.gz (from current). I noticed something went wrong. I 
> tried updating from CVS  but it aborts... by untarring the package again I am 
> notified of checksum problems...
>
> Somehow netbsd is having serious problem in the 68k platform! I don't know if 
> there will be a 2.0.3 or a 2.1 release, but action is needed and the upcoming 
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