Ahmet Merter AKINCI | 12 Jun 2002 21:59
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dear sir,
i have hp jornada  540,windows  ce v:3,sh3.
i would like to learn if i could use netbsd ? if
so,how?
best regards-a.merter  akinci 

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Michael Cooper | 17 Jun 2002 22:46
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sh3 status

I just began looking for a BSD or Linux system ported to the HP Jornada 
690 which runs an SH3 processor.  I was looking at the www.netbsd.org 
under the sh3 site after discovering it through a search engine.

I am having trouble however discovering some information about the 
current status of netbsd on the sh3 system.  Could someone please direct 
me to any site or FAQ which I can view to get this type of information. 
 I do know several programming languages so I can also get into 
contributing, however my skills are not yet that great.  I am currently 
looking for a system to view from a user standpoint.  Thanks.

Michael Cooper

Chris Pinnock | 17 Jun 2002 23:28

Re: sh3 status

On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 04:46:21PM -0400, Michael Cooper wrote:
> I am having trouble however discovering some information about the 
> current status of netbsd on the sh3 system.  Could someone please direct 
> me to any site or FAQ which I can view to get this type of information. 
>  I do know several programming languages so I can also get into 
> contributing, however my skills are not yet that great.  I am currently 
> looking for a system to view from a user standpoint.  Thanks.

Hi,

Probably the best place to start with (including info about the sh
jornada's) is:
	http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/hpcsh/

best wishes,
Chris

Valeriy E. Ushakov | 18 Jun 2002 01:49
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Re: sh3 status

On Mon, Jun 17, 2002 at 16:46:21 -0400, Michael Cooper wrote:

> I just began looking for a BSD or Linux system ported to the HP Jornada 
> 690 which runs an SH3 processor.  I was looking at the www.netbsd.org 
> under the sh3 site after discovering it through a search engine.
> 
> I am having trouble however discovering some information about the 
> current status of netbsd on the sh3 system.  Could someone please direct 
> me to any site or FAQ which I can view to get this type of information. 
> I do know several programming languages so I can also get into 
> contributing, however my skills are not yet that great.  I am currently 
> looking for a system to view from a user standpoint.  Thanks.

Unfortunately, port page is quite out of date.  hpcsh port made quite
a bit of progress since then.

Here's what I did with my 680.  

If you place to build wthe world or custom kernel you will need a
NetBSD machine for cross-building.  You will need some way to write CF
cards.  I used my i386 laptop as host and cf->pcmcia adpater.

Get yourself a *big* CF card.  Ideally - 256Mb, but you can fit into
128Mb one with some trimming (I've got 128).  The problem is that gcc
2.95.3 cannot generate PIC code for sh3, so your will be using static
world - which is quite fat.

Partition the CF using fdisk on your NetBSD host machine.  Create a
small FAT partition, about 10Mb should be sufficient, and use the rest
of CF for NetBSD partition.  You will need the FAT partition b/c
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itojun | 18 Jun 2002 04:33

Re: sh3 status

>PS: Why TGM is not building hpcsh for 1.6 branch?  Some make release
>issues?  (never tried make release myself).

	one problem we have is that we don't have proper installation
	helper program (like sysinst).  also there were some crossbuild
	problems releng team have encountered.  anyways, as we have dreamcast
	on TGM, the latter problem should have gone away.

	so, could you add hpcsh to TGM builds if possible? (bcc'ed to
	releng-1-6)

itojun

Valeriy E. Ushakov | 18 Jun 2002 06:40
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Re: sh3 status

On Tue, Jun 18, 2002 at 11:33:26 +0900, itojun <at> iijlab.net wrote:

> one problem we have is that we don't have proper installation helper
> program (like sysinst).

I don't think there's any practical way to install hpcsh using only
the target device.

I'd guess that running sysinst on a NetBSD host to install
NetBSD/hpcsh on a CF for later use in hpcsh device would not be that
much different from the usual way of running sysinst from md image to
install on the local system disk.  (dicslaimer: no, I'm not
volunteering :).

SY, Uwe
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